Peter Popoff
Baba Yega in black uptowns
Mox has the Corona. I don't think he's going over Cage.
AEW is gonna have Cage end up like Archer and Lee
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This is because they didn’t have enough heels so all the ones they signed they just rushed them into the title matches 
Whatever you want to say about Impact, they booked Cage perfectly. Slow build, staying strong the whole time.
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
This is because they didn’t have enough heels so all the ones they signed they just rushed them into the title matches
Actually..... it’s because of the corona shyt and between having to change plans on the fly or not having guys available due to travel shyt.
They had to call these particular audibles
TrueEpic08
Dum Shiny
It would be better to have him do so much to keep Mox down, but he can't get it done. He finally says "fukk it" and just smack him with the FTW belt, causing a DQ. It puts more emphasis on the FTW belt, on some "fukk the World title, I have this one."
But that won't happen.
It's like TK/Taz/the VPs/whomever don't understand that the entire reason Taz invented the FTW Title in ECW was because Shane Douglas spent MONTHS either ducking Taz or being injured while ECW Champion. Months of Douglas doing nothing while Taz won and lost titles, main evented shows, choked people out, and suplexed dudes on their head. If I'm remembering my timeline correctly, the last time Taz and Doublas shared the ring together before he invented the FTW belt, Taz strangled Shane and took his TV title in like 2:45. And he couldn't even get a match with the guy for his world title? At that point, why wouldn't Taz invent his own belt?
You see how logical that storyline is, both in terms of the sequence of events and the time frame over which it developed? None of that is present with AEW's introduction of the FTW title. Mox isn't ducking Cage, nor has he been out of the ring for long. He's just dealing with a literal pandemic issue that (hopefully) won't keep him away from the company for more than a few weeks. There was no time to build the heat that would lead to Cage wanting to introduce his own belt, therefore it looks hokey and stupid.
And no Cage shouldn't beat Moxley, mostly because Brian Cage sucks (Taz's promos have been excellent, though, so that's something).
Another thing we can note about AEW booking is how badly they book their midcard and non-marquee talent in general (this includes the Elite guys as well, see Omega's booking and Page's early booking for example). They fill their cards with lots of fun matches, but they seemingly have no idea how to keep momentum on their guys and girls after big defeats, which is part of the function of a strong midcard. It's getting to the point that they need to explicitly start booking from PPV cycle to PPV cycle (as in, sit down after Double or Nothing and sketch out every story beat you want to hit until All Out and book to it), which doesn't seem to be happening at all post-COVID, and they need to lean a little more on their working agreements the way that certain soccer clubs will abuse the loan system.
Got Angelico and Jack Evans doing nothing in the tag division? Pay them to stay down in AAA for a few months while you clear out some space for them on the card.
Don't have anything for Nyla Rose after she loses the belt? Send her to DDT/TJPW or STARDOM for a bit and advertise that she's spending time away from AEW to get her head straight in preparation for another title run.
Brian Cage loses this title match and you can't fit him into booking for a couple weeks? Work something out with Court Bauer where he can mash people in MLW and keep his credibility (maybe in exchange for a title match with Jacob Fatu down the line where Fatu goes over), then come back before All Out refreshed and in a new feud without having to hang around TV doing nothing or, worse, losing.
Do something. I really enjoy watching AEW, but you can't ignore some of the issues they're both running into and creating wholecloth through a lack of basic consideration of the nuances of booking.
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
If there was never a Corona virus or shyt to basically fukk up the industry? Do you believe these “issues” would’ve taken place?
If there was never a Corona virus or shyt to basically fukk up the industry? Do you believe these “issues” would’ve taken place?
Yes because all of those issues were there from the start of Dynamite. How many times has Darby had a big breakout match/moment and then isn't even on TV for weeks? Remember Private Party eliminated the Young Bucks from the tag title tournament and have done absolutely nothing for 9 months and are still treated like unknown rookies. Remember Joey Janela getting big time matches with Mox and Omega and then has gone on to do nothing for 9 months? Remember that MJF actually won that feud with Cody and has been on a lower spot on the card ever since? What the fukk have SCU done since dropping the tag titles?
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
lol Has Dynamite even been on air 9months
hell 5-6 month they been dealing with the virus.
And granted I get to y’all want to see certain guys more but no one needs to be there EVERY WEEK, which seems like some of y’all are asking
Reality Check
Keepin' it 100
If there wasn't a worldwide pandemic, this would be a good idea, especially since before their first event they were promoting their partnerships with other promotions. The problem is there is a worldwide pandemic and none of the companies you mentioned are running shows at the moment.
To add on, they had to film 4-6 weeks of programming at once (scrapping all their long-term booking plans) in Georgia when nearly half their active roster couldn't travel due to the 'rona.
Cage isn't beating Moxley...
...and they really could've been more graceful with the storytelling since it's kind of obvious but they felt a need to rush everything.
If what's left of logic prevails, he's losing due to distraction/interference from a returning Darby Allin right when it looks like he has Moxley beat.
Now it'd have made infinitely more sense for Moxley to conclude that he'd beaten Cage and that it's time for the next challenger...
...THAT'S when you have Taz give Cage the FTW title, to insinuate that he had Moxley dead-to-rights and that he's the rightful champion.
Then you advance the story by having Darby continuing to press by challenging Cage and build that feud...maybe you even put that FTW title on the line with whatever rules come along with it and have a big brutal, defining match between the two of them.
Giving Cage the FTW title now only a week before he cashes his guaranteed title shot in telegraphs that he's not winning. Doesn't make sense, because he's not going to claim two belts in his first title match with the company.
...and they really could've been more graceful with the storytelling since it's kind of obvious but they felt a need to rush everything.
If what's left of logic prevails, he's losing due to distraction/interference from a returning Darby Allin right when it looks like he has Moxley beat.
Now it'd have made infinitely more sense for Moxley to conclude that he'd beaten Cage and that it's time for the next challenger...
...THAT'S when you have Taz give Cage the FTW title, to insinuate that he had Moxley dead-to-rights and that he's the rightful champion.
Then you advance the story by having Darby continuing to press by challenging Cage and build that feud...maybe you even put that FTW title on the line with whatever rules come along with it and have a big brutal, defining match between the two of them.
Giving Cage the FTW title now only a week before he cashes his guaranteed title shot in telegraphs that he's not winning. Doesn't make sense, because he's not going to claim two belts in his first title match with the company.
It debuted in October. They're in the 9th month of the show. All the mid carders that got any shine in the first couple of weeks/months got completely benched. Private Party, SCU (Scorpio in particular), Janela, Spears, Darby, MJF, Jungle Boy.....all these guys that got a bunch of screen time and big matches and then had their momentum completely halted because they're just not good at keeping momentum. I think you could argue that even PAC and Lucha Bros suffered from this before COVID as well. As soon as a feud or angle with Jericho or The Elite is done, they just forget a guy even exists.
And of course the entire women's division was treated like this from the jump.
Booking and momentum has been AEW's problem from the start. And you can't really blame 'rona for bringing Archer and Brodie in with specific angles and top programs, having them both immediately lose and get shoved into mid card hell.
Bryan Danielson
Jmare007 x Bryan Danielson x JLova = King Ghidorah
I think he main issue with the booking is WE used to companies that basically give 5-8 guys the shine at a time. Putting the other 80+ people to the side.
Vs the way AEW doing it where as best as they can they trynna let everyone one EAT like Master P with No Limit.
And I’m cool with that. As much as I may like certain characters, I don’t really need to see them every week for 8 months doing big shyt. I’m cool with them spacing shyt out.
It worked in Lucha Underground, it worked in NJPW
Vs the way AEW doing it where as best as they can they trynna let everyone one EAT like Master P with No Limit.
And I’m cool with that. As much as I may like certain characters, I don’t really need to see them every week for 8 months doing big shyt. I’m cool with them spacing shyt out.
It worked in Lucha Underground, it worked in NJPW
I gave up on AE Dub's booking after they fumbled Brodie Lee. Like you have the roster of indie elites but don't know how to push them and make them worthy of a damn given.
TrueEpic08
Dum Shiny
Yeah, I know that. But their problem isn't just a pandemic era problem. They need to figure this shyt out for the long term.