AEW Has Mastered The Art Of Hype & Manipulation.......They Will Be Around For A Long Long Time

[Wacky D]

Jericho was the first undisputed champ

he was also the worst undisputed champ.
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[Wacky D]

A couple things here:

- TNA post-08 had a very lengthy period of being bad to down right terrible, completely turning fans away and being WWE-lite, so a lot of people have been expecting the same since that’s what they have provided for so long, even though recently the shows have gotten better, as you can tell they’ve make a concentrated effort to try to rebrand.

- AEW is new and have struck a chord with doing a lot of things right so far, a lot of things that fans have been wanting the WWE to do (or go back to doing) for a long time, so they pretty much can get a pass for certain things. But people have had their valid complaints, mostly the production and (for me personally), camera angles. But overall, there simply wasn’t much to complain about despite that. It felt fresh and had tons of energy. Meanwhile, just pick a random WWE show. I haven’t tuned in much, but sometimes I check on YouTube and I’m seeing cried reactions clearly edited because I’m hearing what’s basically a laugh track while the crowd is sitting lifeless and bored out of their minds, but they have every reason to feel that way cause the WWE has brought that upon themselves for years.

- Time will tell if AEW can sustain a fresh weekly tv product compared to putting on 1-3 built up shows per year. That’ll be the real test, and I’m looking forward to seeing it.

- Imagine wanting an upstart company to fail so bad because you’ve been indoctrinated like zombies to feel that nothing could possibly be better than a WWE show. You really don’t even need to choose sides, but you’re pretty lame if you have battered spouse syndrome in regards to a mediocre to bad WWE product (that’s pretty much been that way since Chris Paul’s rookie year) just cause a newer company is doing something clearly fresh.

you mean post-09.
and TNA had already been out for over 7 years by that point.

what did AEW do right? they already had a fully-loaded bandwagon before they did anything. and now that they finally have an actual show under their belt, I can see that theyre no so "righteous". if you smacked a different logo over that show the other night, there would be more complaints than compliments from the IWC.

I dont know what the hell youre talking about in the bolded. you must have me confused with someone else. get ya mind right.


like I said, the "wrestling fans" dropped the ball.​

 

[Playaz Eyez]

you mean post-09.
and TNA had already been out for over 7 years by that point.

what did AEW do right? they already had a fully-loaded bandwagon before they did anything. and now that they finally have an actual show under their belt, I can see that theyre no so "righteous". if you smacked a different logo over that show the other night, there would be more complaints than compliments from the IWC.

I dont know what the hell youre talking about in the bolded. you must have me confused with someone else. get ya mind right.


like I said, the "wrestling fans" dropped the ball.​

No, I meant post-08 like I said. 2009-2011, possibly 2012, TNA was 100% WWE-lite, pushing so many former WWE guys to the forefront in front of their homegrown guys, and they weren't really even pushing the really good ones. I'd say a little while after MVP came in, TNA started cleaning themselves up a bit, but even after that it was a couple years before they cleansed themselves of so much of the crap that plagued them before.

What did AEW do right? Well, their show was probably a 7.5-8/10 overall, so that's a start. They basically gave fans exactly what they wanted, and provided a very good atmosphere.

And the bolded part was for the massive WWE-stans in other threads that are currently coping pleas at a wrestling fed that hasn't even started producing weekly shows yet, but if you felt slighted or offended, then maybe you DO actually fall into that category.

 

[Wacky D]

No, I meant post-08 like I said. 2009-2011, possibly 2012, TNA was 100% WWE-lite, pushing so many former WWE guys to the forefront in front of their homegrown guys, and they weren't really even pushing the really good ones. I'd say a little while after MVP came in, TNA started cleaning themselves up a bit, but even after that it was a couple years before they cleansed themselves of so much of the crap that plagued them before.

What did AEW do right? Well, their show was probably a 7.5-8/10 overall, so that's a start. They basically gave fans exactly what they wanted, and provided a very good atmosphere.

And the bolded part was for the massive WWE-stans in other threads that are currently coping pleas at a wrestling fed that hasn't even started producing weekly shows yet, but if you felt slighted or offended, then maybe you DO actually fall into that category.

well if youre talking about WWE stans in other threads, then why are you bringing an entire rant about them in this thread?? and you did it without making any type of distinction.

who were all these WWE stars pushing TNA guys to the background in 2009?? i'll wait.

lol @ the bolded. that's all you could come up with? be real with the game brohski.

 

[CM_Burns]

This is just an AEW sneak diss and you might as well have directly criticized them.

40 isn't old for wrestling.
but im not defending the WWE on that because this is the argument that they tried to use at one point, even tho they had guys at the forefront of their company at that age as well.

they trot the flabby 50s guys out on special occasions. and theyre bigger names, btw.

I agree with this though. There's people who only watch Wrestlemania every year if they watch any wrestling at all, that if I tell them Goldberg vs Undertaker is happening in 2 weeks, will watch it. Chris Jericho doesn't have that effect.

 

[Stop_It_5]

a subliminal AEW sneak diss thread with impact stannery sprinkled in

 

[NYChase718]

Being in yours 40s isnt flabby now
Only 50 years old

But hogan and savage in the 90s was called dinosaurs in their 40s
HbK came back at 36 and was called an old man

 

[TL15]

I don't think they've mastered the art of hype, Timing was a HUGE factor.

You have to admit that a huge part of Double or Nothing was the "arrival" of Jon Moxley...but Double or Nothing was announced before he left the WWE. Had he not left WWE to join AEW, then what is the biggest news coming out of the PPV?

A lot of fan interest was to see IF Moxley would show up. I think if Ambrose stays in WWE, then this pay per view is still successful, but not nearly as hyped

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

NJPW had alot of influence in AEW
that's why they need to partner up and get that world wide bread, nice to know Tony Kahn is a huge wrestling mark

 

[Wacky D]

This is just an AEW sneak diss and you might as well have directly criticized them.

a subliminal AEW sneak diss thread with impact stannery sprinkled in

no sneak-dissing at all. just saying what needs to be said.

im rooting for this company, same way I root for every other company.

and no stannery included.

 

[Wacky D]

I agree with this though. There's people who only watch Wrestlemania every year if they watch any wrestling at all, that if I tell them Goldberg vs Undertaker is happening in 2 weeks, will watch it. Chris Jericho doesn't have that effect.

THIS

 

[Brad Piff]

even though @Wacky D is a very low iq individual, even a broken clock is right 2 times a day. lets call it like it is, double or nothing was a glorified indy show. i read the results and there is basically nothing on the card that i'd be interested in going back to watch. i never gave a damn about no cawdy, never cared for those vanilla midget bucks, would only be interested in seeing omega in wwe and haven't cared about a jericho match in 10 years. ambrose was being shytted on tsc for years, all of a sudden he's being treated like the second coming. give me a break.

people wanna give aew a pass for putting jericho over on the main event talking bout it wouldn't make sense for his new japan match. this is fukkin aew's first official show. they should have told new japan to go fukk themselves and put omega over anyway. grow some fukkin balls.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Great. Now this thread is like every time Baron Corbin teams with Drew McIntyre.

 

[R=G]

I don't think they've mastered the art of hype, Timing was a HUGE factor.

You have to admit that a huge part of Double or Nothing was the "arrival" of Jon Moxley...but Double or Nothing was announced before he left the WWE. Had he not left WWE to join AEW, then what is the biggest news coming out of the PPV?

A lot of fan interest was to see IF Moxley would show up. I think if Ambrose stays in WWE, then this pay per view is still successful, but not nearly as hyped

If I'm not mistaken, the Rhodes match is what everyone was talking about days later.

 

[El Cocodrilo]

WWE just spent 10+ years establishing themselves as a soulless corporation that stifles creativity and even punishes performers for being entertaining. VKM earned the way the fans feel about his product.

WCW we know all the mistakes they made but they were rightfully successful for a while so I don’t think it’s a fair assessment to say what a dead company’s logo would have done for this show. You’d have to compare double or nothing to 1995-1996 WCW.

TNA is a complicated matter... there is the idea that something is cool and when you lose that juice... How do you get it back? Many wrestling fans don’t see Impact as cool and they blew it too many times that they just have an aura of being a loser. Is it true? I don’t know. But what matters is perception.

And AEW has the perception and the money.