AEW Has Mastered The Art Of Hype & Manipulation.......They Will Be Around For A Long Long Time

[THE 101]

You didn't answer my question you crusty old bitter WCW stan

 

[JerseyBoy23]

TNA would get shytted on because they have a legacy of being a fukking GARBAGE company who have dropped the ball time and time again.

AEW get a pass because they're fresh, actually have a real money behind them, a TV deal that is bigger than whatever redneck bullshyt TNA and besides Jericho, are being built around talent that aren't just WWE names.

And that washed up heel Jericho is about to main event NJPW's second biggest show of the year. He must be doing something right.

And how did Omega get "destroyed" you fukking drama queen?

Impact has new owners, new people running it and been putting on dope PPVs for the last 18 months though. I like both promotions though so I'm just happy for more wrestling.

Even Meltz gives them positive reactions to their recent PPVs.

 

[Wacky D]

They had All In last year and have literally been promoting their brand on the YouTube channel every week. Their marketing thru all this has been consistent. They are the cool show just based on wwe giving us the same recycled bullshyt every week. Plus they have working relationships with other promotions so the possibilities are endless for them. Not like wwe who are stuck within their own realm of foolishness. People just got tired of it. I know I had a period during like the ruthless aggression era where I stopped watching and now I really only watch ppv. Maybe one day they'll get their mojo back but for now it seems like they stagnant. And that's what makes aew seem interesting, because it's something new. They got stars that aren't as big or popular to the general audience but built right, they will be. Plus the internet and industry has changed a lot since those old wcw days so it's not like a comparison can even be made.

the WWE has been stagnant & recycling bullchit every week for well over a decade now.

in fact, this current state of the WWE is the best its been in about 13-15 years. maybe longer.

 

[Wacky D]

You didn't answer my question you crusty old bitter WCW stan

I stan nobody.

and I don't know what your question was, but if you don't adjust your energy, youre getting curved & ignored, weirdo.

 

[THE 101]

How did Omega get destroyed?

 

[Wacky D]

Also, when Moxley tried to give him the dirty deeds he fought him off for a while and they brawled into the crowd.. showing that Omega is a guy that is difficult to keep down. He was absolutely protected.

this is true, but if this were TNA or WCW, all logic would be thrown out of the window.

he would just be seen as being destroyed. so that's exactly what I typed.

 

[Reality Check]

- TNA was literally being chitted on from day one. WWE fans dismissed them because they didn't want there to be another big company. ROH/indie fans hated them for pulling "their" wrestlers. basically what AEW is now, except they have more likeable owners. most fans don't like jarrett, and these lifelong virgins definitely hated the idea of a female owner.

- and they didn't start bringing in WWE names like that until years later. so you can toss that argument as well.

It was rightfully being shytted on from the jump because it was presented as Southern Hokey bullshyt and a weekly PPV model. It revolved around Jeff Jarrett because look how well that went in WCW when the promotion revolved around Jarrett, and his Reign of Terror in TNA was arguably worse than Triple H's Reign of Terror. And they were bringing in WWE names much quicker than "years later". Scott Hall was there from the jump, Road Dogg and Sean Waltman came in 3 months after the first show, Curt Henning came in 4 months after their first show, Raven came in 7 months after (and 2 days after he was released from WWE).

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

this is true, but if this were TNA or WCW, all logic would be thrown out of the window.

he would just be seen as being destroyed. so that's exactly what I typed.

Who the hell are these people you are referring to? TNA made A LOT of fukking mistakes.. horrible.. terrible miscalculations that cost them a chance at ever becoming a viable alternative. It wasn't just one mistake either. They were compounded over YEARS..

You are way off on your Jericho comparison. I already stated.. he is more than a guy looking for a payday. He is a creative individual and he has presence on the mic that most wrestlers will never have. This isn't Scott Hall in TNA status.. nowhere close.

AEW needs to have a few of those types of talents around because they aren't going to get over in the mainstream with only guys who can do crazy moves. They need a diverse roster of talent.

And Jericho is more popular than you are giving him credit for. People who rarely watch know who Jericho is.

 

[NYChase718]

Meanwhile the young 40 year old randy orton 50 year old triple h
50 year old goldberg and mid 50s taker bout to headline wwe next ppv
Strowman samoa joe lesnar aj styles daniel bryan finn balor bobby lashley
All 40 year olds
Wwe has really made people believe those are all young and new talent

 

[Wacky D]

It was rightfully being shytted on from the jump because it was presented as Southern Hokey bullshyt and a weekly PPV model. It revolved around Jeff Jarrett because look how well that went in WCW when the promotion revolved around Jarrett, and his Reign of Terror in TNA was arguably worse than Triple H's Reign of Terror. And they were bringing in WWE names much quicker than "years later". Scott Hall was there from the jump, Road Dogg and Sean Waltman came in 3 months after the first show, Curt Henning came in 4 months after their first show, Raven came in 7 months after (and 2 days after he was released from WWE).

half of these aren't "WWE guys".
and the company certainly wasn't built around them like dude was alluding to(altho I dont even think he was referencing this era).
none of these names were even mainstays aside from road dog(mid-card) & raven.

so whats the big difference between southern hokey bullchit and northern hokey bullchit? its still bullchit either way.
at least TNA gave us a black champion - with a green light on the mic on top of that, along with the groundbreaking/game-changing X-Division(what the promotion REALLY revolved around). that alone is must-see TV for anyone that's not looking for something negative to dwell on.

youre even complaining about them doing weekly pay-per views. WHO DOES THAT? you sound like a bum.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

A couple things here:

- TNA post-08 had a very lengthy period of being bad to down right terrible, completely turning fans away and being WWE-lite, so a lot of people have been expecting the same since that’s what they have provided for so long, even though recently the shows have gotten better, as you can tell they’ve make a concentrated effort to try to rebrand.

- AEW is new and have struck a chord with doing a lot of things right so far, a lot of things that fans have been wanting the WWE to do (or go back to doing) for a long time, so they pretty much can get a pass for certain things. But people have had their valid complaints, mostly the production and (for me personally), camera angles. But overall, there simply wasn’t much to complain about despite that. It felt fresh and had tons of energy. Meanwhile, just pick a random WWE show. I haven’t tuned in much, but sometimes I check on YouTube and I’m seeing cried reactions clearly edited because I’m hearing what’s basically a laugh track while the crowd is sitting lifeless and bored out of their minds, but they have every reason to feel that way cause the WWE has brought that upon themselves for years.

- Time will tell if AEW can sustain a fresh weekly tv product compared to putting on 1-3 built up shows per year. That’ll be the real test, and I’m looking forward to seeing it.

- Imagine wanting an upstart company to fail so bad because you’ve been indoctrinated like zombies to feel that nothing could possibly be better than a WWE show. You really don’t even need to choose sides, but you’re pretty lame if you have battered spouse syndrome in regards to a mediocre to bad WWE product (that’s pretty much been that way since Chris Paul’s rookie year) just cause a newer company is doing something clearly fresh.

 

[Wacky D]

Who the hell are these people you are referring to? TNA made A LOT of fukking mistakes.. horrible.. terrible miscalculations that cost them a chance at ever becoming a viable alternative. It wasn't just one mistake either. They were compounded over YEARS..

You are way off on your Jericho comparison. I already stated.. he is more than a guy looking for a payday. He is a creative individual and he has presence on the mic that most wrestlers will never have. This isn't Scott Hall in TNA status.. nowhere close.

AEW needs to have a few of those types of talents around because they aren't going to get over in the mainstream with only guys who can do crazy moves. They need a diverse roster of talent.

And Jericho is more popular than you are giving him credit for. People who rarely watch know who Jericho is.

what were all these terrible mistakes?
dont give me that Hogan/bischoff chit, cuz they should've already been huge beforehand.
they had a great product on spike tv long before they brought them in.
"wrestling fans" have nobody to blame but themselves.

why do you keep on bringing up scott hall?? why do you keep on regurgitating the same argument even after I clarified my stance? its like youre trying to force a narrative.

like I said, I have no problem with Jericho getting signed but they overpaid for dude and are over-pushing him.
just because you have a recognizable name, doesn't mean youre gonna draw people to the product. theres levels to this, and hes not THAT GUY. never was.

 

[OVER]

Jericho is one the GOAT.

I heard, don't know for sure that Killer Kross is leaving Impact. If true they should throw the bag at dude. He's got the most presence I've seen out of any of the new guys and is a viable main eventer.

 

[Wacky D]

Meanwhile the young 40 year old randy orton 50 year old triple h
50 year old goldberg and mid 50s taker bout to headline wwe next ppv
Strowman samoa joe lesnar aj styles daniel bryan finn balor bobby lashley
All 40 year olds
Wwe has really made people believe those are all young and new talent

40 isn't old for wrestling.
but im not defending the WWE on that because this is the argument that they tried to use at one point, even tho they had guys at the forefront of their company at that age as well.

they trot the flabby 50s guys out on special occasions. and theyre bigger names, btw.

 

[The_Unchosen_One]

Jericho was the first undisputed champ


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