ADOS Gang, What Are The Qualifications for ADOS Benefits?

K.O.N.Y

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How is that too soon when that was the date when the flood gates really opened? Prior to the Immigration and Nationality Act they wasn’t letting non-white immigrants over here like that.
Nah but immigrants were in fact coming in before that though no matter how you cut it. I wouldnt focus on a date, and if i did it would go way further back than 68
Lineage should be the main focus. Mad non dos have grandparents that came before 68
 

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Racism and extreme hate is one thing -- but add that times 10 --and daily lynchings, white terrorism, convict leasing, pig laws/black codes -- in addition to Sharecropping laws/contract-- basically slavery -- is another thing.

Study reconstruction.

Also- this is a great resource -- to find out why they left the south.



nikka chicago was a fukking warzone for years! Literally people being shot on the street daily.
 

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Get to what you really want to say though, because I am getting the suspicion that you want to go to bat for someone or something. You feel like I am minimizing the importance of reparations or disrespecting the cultural importance of ADOS discussions? If not, all good, hopefully I addressed what you didn't understand from my first post. If there are still lingering questions/concerns, lets make this swift, because I don't want a rant to turn into a debate.
Na not at all. And its not just you
Im just not a fan of conflating the DOS culture movement with Reparations. Thats all:manny:

I feel like cultural reform and refinement can get bogged down if it depends on the success or failure to pass reparations
 

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My pops is a Black Cubano, so I know Im only entitled to "half"......(:dahell: as if 90 miles from Florida matters) :stopitslime:

I honestly think I should get full. :whew: My Mississippi fam still on them farms! :damn:

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Hey, stupid. Cuba isn't America.
 

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@thashiek

let me clarify further.

I think cats think the ADOS movement only exist to pass and push for reparations. Which is false and the wrong way to go about it imo


I fully understand that and also get why you would want to correct anyone who misrepresents it.

My post really didn't have anything to do with ADOS and was more about political members abusing how we view reparations. It's more about shytting on the people who have and will be pandering, while also encouraging people not to buy into people solely because they promote reparations.

Once again, I can see how we got twisted since my post was made in a thread about ADOS qualifications. But I wasn't incorporating that into my rant, so we share the same views, I just needed to go on that tangent and get it out.


EDIT: Also the part about being surprised, I stand by. I'm not used to this much discussion about reparations. It is flooding every message board and social media platform I use. I'm glad the talks are being had but I'm also weary of abuse since its something we care about so much.
 

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I fully understand that and also get why you would want to correct anyone who misrepresents it.

My post really didn't have anything to do with ADOS and was more about political members abusing how we view reparations. It's more about shytting on the people who have and will be pandering, while also encouraging people not to buy into people solely because they promote reparations.

Once again, I can see how we got twisted since my post was made in a thread about ADOS qualifications. But I wasn't incorporating that into my rant, so we share the same views, I just needed to go on that tangent and get it out.


EDIT: Also the part about being surprised, I stand by. I'm not used to this much discussion about reparations. It is flooding every message board and social media platform I use. I'm glad the talks are being had but I'm also weary of abuse since its something we care about so much.
it was probably more of a misunderstanding on my end, considering i forgot that op used the words "benefits" in the thread title. In this case its only right to think reparations. I went straight to the cultural aspect without considering the actual title of the thread

As far as the bolded

Your absolutely right. And this can be very dangerous. A candidate can preach reparationsreparationsreparations his/her whole campaign just to sway our vote with absolutely no intentions of delivering
 

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Hey, stupid. Cuba isn't America.
fukk you, fakkit. Technically it IS America. You do know what the TERM 'The Americas' TECHNICALLY mean? bytch ass open-booty sissy, Don't @ ME! In my very next post, I even acknowledged that it's not the United 50 u fukk but dont ever @ me p*ssy boy.
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fukk you, fakkit. Technically it IS America. You do know what the TERM 'The Americas' TECHNICALLY mean? bytch ass open-booty sissy, Don't @ ME! In my very next post, I even acknowledged that it's not the United 50 u fukk but dont ever @ me p*ssy boy.
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Calm down bro :dame:
Coming from someone who has partial non-ADOS lineage(my father’s mom is Bajan), anyone who doesn’t possess lineage of USA Slaves shouldn’t get ADOS benefits. So your pops or my grandma shouldn’t get benefits, they need to go holla at Spain or England for their benefits :hubie:
 

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Because the system that will be administering the benefits is the same system that enslaved your people in the first place. So if the qualifications are super stringent they will use those same rules to disqualify people. This would not have been an issue if it was done 100 years ago but that ain’t the case. Look at all the rules they make to stop you from voting...they’ll have 100 rules to fukk you out of reparations too.

It needs to be simple like “prove two or more people within your direct lineage were considered Black or African in 1968 or before”


I realize that I am completely in the minority, but 1968 is way too lax. No mixed person should be entitled to reparations as they have been afforded their entrance into mainstream white society.

This definition will literally work against us as it still can be used to provide preferences to barely black people. For example, under your terminology, Muhammad Ali’s grandson would be entitled to reparations. To no fault of his own, this child will live his life as a white man.

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Calm down bro :dame:
Coming from someone who has partial non-ADOS lineage(my father’s mom is Bajan), anyone who doesn’t possess lineage of USA Slaves shouldn’t get ADOS benefits. So your pops or my grandma shouldn’t get benefits, they need to go holla at Spain or England for their benefits :hubie:
I said that....my mother's entire side of the family (same county as Oprah Winfrey's family) did work for free to build this nation's wealth tho. I clearly said I'm only entitled to half of anything.
 

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I realize that I am completely in the minority, but 1968 is way too lax. No mixed person should be entitled to reparations as they have been afforded their entrance into mainstream white society.

This definition will literally work against us as it still can be used to provide preferences to barely black people. For example, under your terminology, Muhammad Ali’s grandson would be entitled to reparations. To no fault of his own, this child will live his life as a white man.

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Yeah but all of us are mixed so that ends up being a slippery slope. I'm the color of a Hershey's Chocolate Bar but I'm 20% White according to Ancestry DNA. Should I not get reparations then.
 

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Definitely, you can.

I stayed on that site for weeks when my genealogy mentor shared it with me. I was crying, laughing and pissed at the same damn time.

Our ancestors were not playing games. That site will let you know - they were not happy -- and fighting back every chance they could. And whites were shook -- but whites had weapons -- and had us out in the boonies with no way out. Deep South was the worse.

Mississippi and Alabama was ruthless -- ancestors were killing left and right.

Abstract: Elizabeth Fort seeks remuneration from the state after her slave Henry was executed for stabbing a white man with intent to kill. She is fifty-two years old and owns only two other slaves, a man and a woman, "capable of serving her, & providing a support for her declining years."

Abstract: Joseph and Anne Wynn state that their daughter Mary "was murdered by a number of negro slaves” on the day after Christmas in 1822. They further reveal that among said slaves were "Charles and Vina the property of your memorialist Joseph and Jack the property of your memorialist Anne." The petitioners report that said slaves were tried, convicted, and executed for said crime and that they "have cheerfully borne the loss of property incurred by the execution of said slaves to satisfy the demands of public Justice." The Wynns express, however, that paying the expenses incurred from jailing said slaves for nine months and the costs resulting from their prosecution, conviction and execution "will greatly distress them, and as in truth they are not able to pay them without making great sacrifice of the little property that now possess." They therefore humbly pray that they be provided $350 "for the payment of the costs aforesaid."

Abstract: Eighteen-year-old Alexander Roach reports that his sixteen-year-old female slave "was apprehended upon a charge of murder" and that she was committed to the Rockingham jail; she was later "tried and convicted of said murder, but it being suggested that she might be pregnant her executed was respited until the last day of June at which time she was executed for sd. murder." Roach discloses that he is an orphan and "that the only property which he possess'd was said negro girl and a negro boy about eleven years old." He further states that the jail fees and "costs attending the trial and execution" equal more than $100. He considers "the case an extremely hard one upon him" in that he was deprived of his "likely" negro girl and now faces being "cast into [the] world poor and indebted." He therefore, "thro the medium of this petition," thought it proper "to petition your Honourable body for such relief as you may think proper."

Abstract: The petitioners state that their slaves, Mary and Tena, plotted to murder several "helpless" white families and to destroy the property of their masters by setting fire to a store, warehouse and "several dwelling houses." The two women were captured as they sought to "flee to their friends--the Yankees--for protection." The petitioners assert that due to the virtual suspension of the courts and the insecurity of the jails, the two women were hanged without due process of law. The petitioners seek compensation for their losses.
last I checked there were hundreds of slave revolts. guess this stuff backs that statement up more

the narrative of whites felt sympathy seems more like a lie. And the truth is more that they were scared of slaves revolts getting to them:mjpls:
 
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