AD wasn't good enough to be a number 1 Re: Anthony Davis' Happiness in N.O.

[Long Live The Kane]

The "he's not a #1" stuff is stupid, shallow thinking....AD in NO was one top 5ish in the league, but that doesn't mean he was some god level player that could do EVERYTHING...it's the same thing with Giannis, where because he's not some elite half court shot creator that is key for championship level play in the playoffs, people will say "oh he's just not good enough"...Was Shaq just not "good enough" when he was getting routinely swept out the playoffs before Kobe was ready to help them close games?

A kyrie, Donovan Mitchell, prime Tony Parker level shot creator and playmaker would've done AD wonders during those NO years....same reason the only year KG did shyt in MIN was when Cassell and Spree was there doing their thing

 

[FTBS]

KG was a league mvp and took his team to wcf. With a good team, he definitely was capable of being a #1 on a championship roster. AD has Lebron outplaying him this season and showing more effort lol. I am not blaming AD for not doing anything with Pelicans because he had bad rosters but with Lakers there is really no excuse. Last year the team rating went down when Lebron would go to the bench. AD needed a good playmaker on the court at all times. Any Laker fan who watched all games would tell you the same.

He also missed the playoffs with a team that came into the season with championship expectations. And AD got a chip and was monster for an entire playoff run. I am talking about #1 option aggressiveness, not team or even individual success. That was the knock on KG so I'm trying to understand how that's the basis for having him over AD. It's like going in Zion's weight and saying "That' why I put Barkley and Shaq" over him.

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

Salt. Go from AD to Zion brehs

Salt. Go from AD to Zion brehs

Trash take from a clown

Coli.com brehs....

 

[Shadow King]

LeBron James fans and Pelicans fans are the only groups I can imagine having agendas distorted enough to argue Anthony Davis isn't a top 10 player in the league.

Don't put that bullshyt on us

 

[CarltonJunior]

Salt. Go from AD to Zion brehs

Atleast Zion is funner to watch.

BI is a real nikka.

 

[FTBS]

The "he's not a #1" stuff is stupid, shallow thinking....AD in NO was one top 5ish in the league, but that doesn't mean he was some god level player that could do EVERYTHING...it's the same thing with Giannis, where because he's not some elite half court shot creator that is key for championship level play in the playoffs, people will say "oh he's just not good enough"...Was Shaq just not "good enough" when he was getting routinely swept out the playoffs before Kobe was ready to help them close games?

A kyrie, Donovan Mitchell, prime Tony Parker level shot creator and playmaker would've done AD wonders during those NO years....same reason the only year KG did shyt in MIN was when Cassell and Spree was there doing their thing

Shaq had Penny and arguably the top starting 5 in the league and then went to a 50 win LA team featuring an all star backcourt and that's before Kobe became a starter. Me thinks AD might have fared a little better team wise in these situations.

Giannis is a little different in that if you put him with Bron last year, he simply can't/won't do all that we saw AD do en route to that chip.

 

[Easy-E]

Outside of Lebron, Giannis, and Kawhi there weren't any clear cut better players than him out there.

It's hard to get those type of guys period much less to come to smaller market teams. Everybody wants to live in LA, NYC, or Miami. I think that trend is wack but that's the nature of the climate we live in.

You keep responding like I'm talking about 2020-2021 Anthony Davis.

He couldn't lift New Orleans because Bigs can't He was Top while in New Orleans

Ya'll got to pick ONE narrative.

Either he was a clear cut number one or he needed help to get the fukking 8th seed

Again, there's been ONE team I thought could win a title since we been in New Orleans; 2008 New Orleans Hornets

He underachieved for someone people think was a Number One

Again, 8th Seed in the Playoffs

That's the only thing I'm holding against him while in New Orleans

 

[Easy-E]

The "he's not a #1" stuff is stupid, shallow thinking....AD in NO was one top 5ish in the league, but that doesn't mean he was some god level player that could do EVERYTHING...it's the same thing with Giannis, where because he's not some elite half court shot creator that is key for championship level play in the playoffs, people will say "oh he's just not good enough"...Was Shaq just not "good enough" when he was getting routinely swept out the playoffs before Kobe was ready to help them close games?

A kyrie, Donovan Mitchell, prime Tony Parker level shot creator and playmaker would've done AD wonders during those NO years....same reason the only year KG did shyt in MIN was when Cassell and Spree was there doing their thing

Right now, link me to a post to you saying that on thecoli while Anthony was in New Orleans.

And what Top 5 player can't get their team A EIGHT SEED on a consistent basis?

Dame does that and ya'll shyt on him every day and he has yet to run to a contender.

 

[Easy-E]

His team was never good enough. Bigs typically win with elite wings. Never had that running mate.

Years, the 8th seed, their record, their best player (IMO)

2013 - Rockets (45 wins) - Harden
2014 - Mavs (49 wins) - Dirk (old)
2015 - We made the playoffs
2016 - Rockets (41-41 ) - Harden
2017 - Portland (41-41 ) - Dame
2018 - Wolves (47-35) - Jimmy Butler
2019 - AD Quit

So AD couldn't get his team to the post season over Harden, Old Dirk, Dame and Karl Anthony, but, he was Top 5?!?!



Again, my standard is getting your team to the Western Conference playoffs.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Right now, link me to a post to you saying that on thecoli while Anthony was in New Orleans.

And what Top 5 player can't get their team A EIGHT SEED on a consistent basis?

Dame does that and ya'll shyt on him every day and he has yet to run to a contender.

Saying what exactly... being bullish on AD in general? I've been dying for him to be a Laker since before Bron being there was ever a dream

Huge russ fan. . But I'd have to pair kd with the best big in the game for years to come in Anthony Davis if the opportunity presented itself...Closest I'd get to seeing my dream of prime kg and bean teamed up realized

I'd have to see Kawhi back before I can accurately rank him


1. KD
2. Bron
3. Steph
4. AD
5. Harden


Don't quite know where Kawhi fits in the mix until he's playing again

Or do mean the whole concept of what a "#1" even means when there's multiple All NBA talent on the same squad being silly and kinda basic thinking? Cause I've posted extensively bout that vis a vis the Shaq-Kobe Lakers, early Heatles, Steph-KD dubbs, etc

I mean, I get there must be all kinds cognitive dissonance at play for Pelican fans watching AD look like the best or at worst 2nd player in basketball during a run to a championship the very moment y'all traded him....but let's not go full retarded and work yourself into a shoot, and delude yourself into thinking AD was the issue on that team...blame bad luck, systemic inequity hurting small markets, or whatever else...but a lack of talent on AD's part isn't on the shortlist for why that team wasn't a force

 

[Easy-E]

I mean, I get there must be all kinds cognitive dissonance at play for Pelican fans watching AD look like the best or at worst 2nd player in basketball during a run to a championship the very moment y'all traded him....but let's not go full retarded and work yourself into a shoot, and delude yourself into thinking AD was the issue on that team...blame bad luck, systemic inequity hurting small markets, or whatever else...but a lack of talent on AD's part isn't on the shortlist for why that team wasn't a force

Relax with the name calling.

Again, I'll never say the Pelicans front office was top-notch, but, we aren't the fukking Kings or Pistons.

Never even said he was the biggest issue. Just that he was a #1.

Ya'll arguing with ya'll selves with the "it was all Anthony's fault"

I've said multiple times; we should've got a number one (ie A Jimmy Butler to Karl Anthony)

See my post below. These teams were exactly loaded.

Compared to the Pelicans/Hornets, what made them so better--I acknowledge you ranked AD high back, thank you for pulling receipt--to the point they were able to simply make the playoffs.

Again, never said Anthony was trash, would never win a ring, etc, etc.

But, his time in New Orleans is being re-written as "Dominant SuperStar, Top 5 who was held back by his trash team and organization."

That's A LOT of excuses for a Top 5 talent not even being able to get a 8th seed

Years, the 8th seed, their record, their best player (IMO)

2013 - Rockets (45 wins) - Harden
2014 - Mavs (49 wins) - Dirk (old)
2015 - We made the playoffs
2016 - Rockets (41-41 ) - Harden
2017 - Portland (41-41 ) - Dame
2018 - Wolves (47-35) - Jimmy Butler
2019 - AD Quit

So AD couldn't get his team to the post season over Harden, Old Dirk, Dame and Karl Anthony, but, he was Top 5?!?!



Again, my standard is getting your team to the Western Conference playoffs.

 

[Easy-E]

Not a Number 1...

Biz even mad



JJJ outplayed him

 

[dh86]

Pelicans collapsed as a franchise and won’t exist by the end of this decade, he proved his worth already.

 

[10bandz]

He's not a number 1

 

[Premeditated]

Pelicans collapsed as a franchise and won’t exist by the end of this decade, he proved his worth already.

collapse from what? the top? they weren't even midlevels when he was there.