Aaron Rodgers Is Already The GOAT. There Are No Arguments To Be Made Against It.

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Rodgers is a top 5 QB all time. He had seasons where he was better than Brady. But overall, I don’t see the argument where he’s a better QB all time than Brady. Ppl wanna talk about the weapons Tom has NOW, as if he didn’t spend years in New England putting up HoF numbers with 5’8 Cac receivers and journeymen level weapons. He had one year of Randy Moss and that offense and they went 18-1 and lost against an all time great NY Giants defensive front. I think a lot of this stems from Patriots hatred. The Brady disrespect is incredible.

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Brady literally had like 5 seasons better than Rodgers:lolbron:


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Rodgers is a top 5 QB all time. He had seasons where he was better than Brady. But overall, I don’t see the argument where he’s a better QB all time than Brady. Ppl wanna talk about the weapons Tom has NOW, as if he didn’t spend years in New England putting up HoF numbers with 5’8 Cac receivers and journeymen level weapons. He had one year of Randy Moss and that offense and they went 18-1 and lost against an all time great NY Giants defensive front. I think a lot of this stems from Patriots hatred. The Brady disrespect is incredible.

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Rodgers aint Top 5. Post your Top 10 lol...
 

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If mahomes thoroughly out plays Tom Brady two weeks from now with a W the GOAT for QB position is rightfully his sorry big dawg:yeshrug:

Only if he keeps up that energy for a decade. Brady has bounced back strongly from embarrassment and adversity. Could you imagine such a talented thrower of the football as Aaron Rodgers would make no waves in the postseason for a decade after his SB win? I'd never have believed it.
 

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Bucs receivers also had multiple drops that could have been big plays. Brady threw two bad balls all game. That other int was unlucky that it went off Evans hands into a defender. But yeah Brady made more significant plays for his offense than Rodgers.

Rodgers had multiple opportunities in the second half to take this game and he failed. When Brady had those opportunities in the first half Bucs scored TDs.

Which ones? I saw a lot of passes that were very difficult to catch. Saw a pass 5 ft above Mike Evans' head and folk like "He shoulda had that!"
 

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Lmao no the fuxk it isnt, you smoking dope, but just to clarify, if he wins in two weeks, you're saying he's the greatest QB ever? Or Top 5, Top 10 or something?

The "anoint guys immediately after a few hot seasons" has permeated modern sports and I hate it. If Mahomes wins a 2nd title, it wouldn't put him in GOAT territory yet. What it would be is 2 chips in his first 4 years, 2 in 3 years as a starter, the exact same thing Brady did, and it would add more validation to the idea he can finish his career as one of the best ever...

4 years aint making anybody the best ever, there's a whhoooollllleeee lot of career to see after this, and especially in the coming years once the Chiefs inevitably has to let some players go and he aint playing on a Superteam anymore...

He not elevating into GOAT level for beating a QB in his 21st year who is in his mid-40s lmao...

The bolded are casuals and the largest reason why I'm quitting sports after Bron and Brady leave. They've changed the rules in all 3 major sports for more offense because these petulant children have the attention span of gnats. People who constantly need entertainment/flashy play and don't enjoy the strategy of the game, defensive battles, efficiency, etc. They're slick a part of the greater anti-intellectual movement in sports. It's why I'm reserved and avoid socializing irl. Everyone loves to talk passionately about shyt they don't know about and aren't really invested in. Just trash takes, based on fleeting emotions
 

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The bolded are casuals and the largest reason why I'm quitting sports after Bron and Brady leave. They've changed the rules in all 3 major sports for more offense because these petulant children have the attention span of gnats. People who constantly need entertainment/flashy play and don't enjoy the strategy of the game, defensive battles, efficiency, etc. They're slick a part of the greater anti-intellectual movement in sports. It's why I'm reserved and avoid socializing irl. Everyone loves to talk passionately about shyt they don't know about and aren't really invested in. Just trash takes, based on fleeting emotions
Tom brady is one of the main reasons for modern offenses in the nfl being pampered in the first place and he should be thanking Adam Vinetieri and those defenses in the early 2000s for his first 3 Super Bowls anyways. And I’m sorry as great as Tom Brady has been for his career the eye test won’t allow me to call him the GOAT no matter how many rings he has. His circumstances have helped him tremendously through out his career. This is what I dislike about American criteria in sports it’s all about rings before everything else compared to the world. In soccer the overwhelming majority of people in the world know Ronaldinho isn’t better than Messi because he won a world championship and Messi didn’t.
 
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Which ones? I saw a lot of passes that were very difficult to catch. Saw a pass 5 ft above Mike Evans' head and folk like "He shoulda had that!"

Evans dropped a deep pass (not the one that was intercepted) that hit him right in his hands. Fournette dropped at least two. Johnson dropped at least one. I think Goodwin dropped one too. These were all passes that hit them in their hands, not like the Evans deflected INT.
 

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Tom brady is one of the main reasons for modern offenses in the nfl being pampered in the first place and he should be thanking Adam Vinetieri and those defenses in the early 2000s for his first 3 Super Bowls anyways. And I’m sorry as great as Tom Brady has been for his career the eye test won’t allow me to call him the GOAT no matter how many rings he has. His circumstances have helped him tremendously through out his career. This is what I dislike about American criteria in sports it’s all about rings before everything else compared to the world. In soccer the overwhelming majority of people in the world know Ronaldinho isn’t better than Messi because he won a world championship and Messi didn’t.

I won't address the bolded because you're exposing your lack of depth when it comes to NFL history, there's been a bevy of threads on it and I can let @FabTrey or @BucciMane explain why you're inaccurate. Not outright wrong, but definitely inaccurate.

Idk where you rep originally, but America is a results based country, I'm just being consistent with grading things on results. Jimmy Carter was a better man than most Presidents that have ever led this place. He got 1 term due to circumstance, and Americans being shytty people, we don't call him one of the best Presidents ever even though he had the potential.

If your GOATs are based on ability then that's your take but for most people the "greatest" at any given task has to be the nexus of where potential meets results. A high earning job won't higher me strictly off HS, and college grades, I need to showcase application of skill in meaningful situations.

If we're speaking on the most talented QBs, best throwers, etc. I leave Brady out of those convos, but when it comes down to composite best it's not now nor will it ever be (barring Mahomes getting to 8-10 SBs or winning 5+) a convo on the GOAT QB. I get it though, you're entitled to your opinion most guys who pick against Brady have a guy who they either like more in terms of style or watched more of (Montana, Marino, Manning, Rodgers). It is what it is. I get your take I just think it's framed in bias. Agree to disagree
 

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Man they have a team that can win! Rodgers 4th qtr in NFC chip vs Brady— Down 28-23

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Bucs win 31-26
 
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