Aaron Hernandez questioned by police in homicide probe (Update: Found guilty of first degree murder)

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it's always hilarious how these killers cop out as soon as shyt goes down. they are snitchin on him like there's no tomorrow now.

i really wonder how many bodies hernandez got on his resume tho.
 

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I mentioned coke usage as well. Only thing tht makes sense at this point. Lol @ the coach tho. Also lol @ him bein a "loner" but the RI strip club owner sayin him and bout "6 other Patriots" was regulars.

I hit Rhode Island strip clubs every once in awhile. I have one friend in particular from the A who brought that habit up here with him.

Cadillac Lounge, Satin Doll, Desires, Cheaters when I'm feeling grimey :russ:. I'll tell you right now it's a lot more than 6 Patriots.

Maybe 6 recognizable Patriots.

The strip clubs in Boston are suspect. Centerfold's in the city is the only decent place. But the girls there are on the up and up. So everyone heads to Rhode Island.
 

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Preachers son at during my freshman year at OU was on this shyt hard body, dikk riding me because I was from Brooklyn thinking I'd be on some thug shyt. :rudy: I mean, for no reason at all....he just wanted to be hard. Saw him around some Cali jherri curled gangstas trying to sell drugs.

Dude was found stuffed dead in a closet with his girlfriend 7 months later. :manny:

:wow:

One of my main homies in Carolina got killed execution style. Wonder if anyone who posts here is familiar with Winston Salem and heard of a dude called Sunshine who used to be heavy out there. Supposedly the hit had something to do with him. But yeah, he died because he was hanging around the wrong people, partially for some cred and cool points. shyt broke my heart. He took me around some of his hood associates and couldn't understand why i never showed interest in hanging with them. He actually said "but you grew up in the streets." Yeah my nikka, that's the point exactly.
 

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On Tuesday, limited snippets of an affidavit filed in a Florida court emerged, via the Associated Press. And while the information published by the AP was accurate, it was hardly complete.

Albert Breer of NFL Network has passed along the entire affidavit, and it paints a much more comprehensive picture of what Carlos Ortiz said, and when and where he said it.

Basically, Ortiz said everything he knows.

As of Tuesday, June 25, Ortiz was on probation. He showed up that day for a previously-scheduled meeting with his probation officer. When Ortiz got there, he learned that there was another purpose for that day’s meeting.

Investigators provided Ortiz with the so-called Miranda warnings (“you have the right to remain silent . . .”), and Ortiz nevertheless agreed to speak. Both the video and audio were recorded.

Ortiz said that he and Wallace arrived at Hernandez’s home in North Attleboro just after midnight on June 17, 2013. Hernandez and Shayanna Jenkins weren’t home; a babysitter let Wallace and Ortiz into the home.

Ortiz saw “a small and large handgun” in the home, and when Hernandez returned with Jenkins, Ortiz saw Hernandez “carrying a handgun.”

The three men — Hernandez, Ortiz, and Wallace — left the home at 1:09 a.m., stopping once for gas and then picking up Odin Lloyd and traveling back to North Attleboro.

Ortiz told police that, on the drive back, “he overheard Mr. Hernandez state directly to Mr. Lloyd that he was ‘chilling’ with people that [Hernandez] had problems with.” Ortiz said that Hernandez and Lloyd “made up by ‘shaking hands’ and added that ‘it’ was squashed.”


Ortiz then fell asleep. He woke up when the vehicle stopped, and Ortiz saw the other three men — Hernandez, Wallace, and Lloyd — get out of the car “to urinate.”

Ortiz then heard gunshots.

Hernandez and Wallace got back in to the car “without Mr. Lloyd,” and the vehicle “fled” the scene.


Because he had been asleep and stayed in the car, Ortiz didn’t know who had fired the shots, which makes Monday’s report that Wallace told Ortiz that Hernandez fired the shots now more sensible.

When the vehicle returned to Hernandez’s house, Wallace asked Ortiz to get a small gun located under the rear of the driver’s seat. Ortiz got the gun, carried it inside, and gave it to Hernandez.

Ortiz said that he then went back to sleep.


The affidavit confirms that it was Ortiz who told police about the things Hernandez said to Lloyd in the car, but Ortiz’s version as explained in the affidavit differs from the representations made in court by prosecutor Bill McCauley during Hernandez’s arraignment. For example, McCauley mentioned that Hernandez spoke about not being able to trust anyone, and that Hernandez wasn’t upset about Lloyd “chilling” with people Hernandez had issues with but that Lloyd had actually said something to them that called his trustworthiness in to question. Also, McCauley said nothing about Hernandez and Lloyd making up.

Still, if Ortiz repeats his story in court, it will be very hard to overcome the clear and complete picture it paints. While Hernandez’s lawyers surely will try to paint Ortiz as a liar, the reality is that Hernandez specifically asked Ortiz and Wallace to come to Massachusetts from Connecticut. As a practical matter, Hernandez is pretty much stuck with whatever Ortiz says happened, unless Hernandez and Wallace plan to offer an alternative explanation on the witness stand at trial.

Affidavit confirms Ortiz flipped on Hernandez, told them the whole story | ProFootballTalk

I have a hard time believing Ortiz was asleep. Either way, Hernandez is done.
 

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I hit Rhode Island strip clubs every once in awhile. I have one friend in particular from the A who brought that habit up here with him.

Cadillac Lounge, Satin Doll, Desires, Cheaters when I'm feeling grimey :russ:. I'll tell you right now it's a lot more than 6 Patriots.

Maybe 6 recognizable Patriots.

The strip clubs in Boston are suspect. Centerfold's in the city is the only decent place. But the girls there are on the up and up. So everyone heads to Rhode Island.

:scusthov:

:bryan:
 

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I hit Rhode Island strip clubs every once in awhile. I have one friend in particular from the A who brought that habit up here with him.

Cadillac Lounge, Satin Doll, Desires, Cheaters when I'm feeling grimey :russ:. I'll tell you right now it's a lot more than 6 Patriots.

Maybe 6 recognizable Patriots.

The strip clubs in Boston are suspect. Centerfold's in the city is the only decent place. But the girls there are on the up and up. So everyone heads to Rhode Island.

Cheaters is fun its kinda a hole in the wall though but Providence is definitely the place to go for strip clubs in our area. Boston is beyond wack they used to have strips of clubs back in that day but are now down to three which is pathetic for a major city. i hate our city government they make the worst rules Boston could be popping but they make it so tame
 

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I have a hard time believing Ortiz was asleep. Either way, Hernandez is done.

Him telling a jury what Wallace told him would be heresy. Especially since Wallace did not say that he pulled the trigger, but that Hernandez did. So that information wouldn't be useable in a court of law (in a Hernandez case). So his snitching won't be AS bad. So saying he was asleep and only heard through 2nd hand information is smart.

shyt, Ortiz might even be a good witness for the Hernandez defense. He could cast doubt on to who actually pulled the trigger, if the Ahern defense wants to go that route. Which in my opinion is the best route to go with. "Maybe Wallace shot him." The stuff that Wallace told Ortiz wouldn't even be admissible in a Ahern trial if Ortiz was called to the stand.
 

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