#AAGang how do you feel about African bed wenches eating off the feminist hustle?

[Neuromancer]

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[kayslay]

The Black youth online are too bytchmade to tell immigrants and their children to fallback.

When them reparations come, I promise you; muthfukkas who's folk came here in the 70's will try to cut in line to folk like me with roots so far back in the South and with parents that had to live through Jim Crow America.

The Black youth online are too bytchmade to tell immigrants and their children to fallback.

When them reparations come, I promise you; muthfukkas who's folk came here in the 70's will try to cut in line to folk like me with roots so far back in the South and with parents that had to live through Jim Crow America.

Well that up to you to tell your generation to make sure they teach their children to make the distinction!
Too many mfs talking shyt about what the youth is doing but not enough parenting!
It’s takes a village and the shyt needs to happen from the middle .

 

[kayslay]

I am a first generation Jamaican born in the Bronx, my family roots go back to Jamaica 100s of years, but I've always been ostracized and called Yankee boy because I wasn't born there, so I've never felt any cultural pride being Jamaican because I've always been excluded, when I see usain bolt, Bob Marley, or Patrick Ewing etc.. I've never felt anything because I've been told for so many years that I'm an African American, I will say this tho Ghana has reached out and acknowledged their role in the transatlantic slave trade and welcomed us back, my family is Jamaican maroons (from Ghana) that fought for independence and autonomy from the English, my mother used to say we were maroon indian (no such thing) but the maroons mixed with amerindians, tainos and mulattoes which created darker skin natives with smooth brown skin and "Dark straight hair" maybe some of the more experienced and we'll versed posters could give me insight

Just curious who are these people that told you you were an African American? Why did they feel you’re African American?
Because you sort of contradicted yourself throughout this paragraph.

 

[Jesus Bhrist]

Just curious who are these people that told you you were an African American? Why did they feel you’re African American?
Because you sort of contradicted yourself throughout this paragraph.

I Never contradicted myself, I clearly stated Jamaicans don't consider you Jamaican if you were born here in america, they'll call you a Yankee in a derogatory way, it's a weird paradigm, I know my roots and i grew up in a Jamaican neighborhood but i was Americanized and i assimilated African American culture

 

[im_sleep]

I Never contradicted myself, I clearly stated Jamaicans don't consider you Jamaican if you were born here in america, they'll call you a Yankee in a derogatory way, it's a weird paradigm, I know my roots and i grew up in a Jamaican neighborhood but i was Americanized and i assimilated African American culture

I’m sure that’s gotta be confusing considering what they think makes an African American likely differs in a lot of ways than what actual African Americans thinks makes the cut.

 

[xoxodede]

I Never contradicted myself, I clearly stated Jamaicans don't consider you Jamaican if you were born here in america, they'll call you a Yankee in a derogatory way, it's a weird paradigm, I know my roots and i grew up in a Jamaican neighborhood but i was Americanized and i assimilated African American culture

Is it the same if you migrated at a later age? Are you still a Yankee?

And why the term Yankee? Do you know why?

 

[Jesus Bhrist]

Is it the same if you migrated at a later age? Are you still a Yankee?

And why the term Yankee? Do you know why?

it's slang that the british used for americans and confederate soldiers adopted the term and used it against northerners during the civil war

Since Jamaica was a colony of the British, I'm assuming that's where they picked that up from, yea if you become Americanized they'll call you a Yankee too, but usually they still be in touch with the culture so they can hide it a little better than someone like me, who was born and raised here

 

[xoxodede]

it's slang that the british used for americans and confederate soldiers adopted the term and used it against northerners during the civil war

Since Jamaica was a colony of the British, I'm assuming that's where they picked that up from, yea if you become Americanized they'll call you a Yankee too, but usually they still be in touch with the culture so they can hide it a little better than someone like me, who was born and raised here

Thanks for explaining!

 

[Free White & 21]

Never mind. Nothing good to say

 

[IllmaticDelta]

And not to mention Natives were frequently hired to catch runaway slaves as well.

I think maybe in the early years(early 17th - early 18th century), the romanticized view of Natives and Africans being on the same accord were true to an extent, but white supremacy eventually did its job and drove a wedge between the two.

In those times, native and blacks were more often than not, on the same side which is why whites tried to pit them against each other

Concerning Black Indians in the eastern United States during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, Katz says:


"Despite every European effort to keep one dark people from assisting the other, the two races began to blend on a vast scale. Black Indians were apparent everwhere if one bothered to look. Thomas Jefferson, for example, found among the Mattaponies of his Virginia, "more negro than Indian blood in them." Another eyewitness reported Virginia's Gingaskin reservation had become "largely African." Peter Kalm, whose famous diary described a visit to the British colonies in 1750, took note of many Africans living with Indians, with marriage and children the normal result."

Historians refer to the Cherokee's forced march to Oklahoma as "the trail of tears."
This trail of tears and other acts of relocation and genocide committed against Native American peoples were in large part responses to the fact of widespread red-black solidarity and coalition in the eastern states during the 18th and 19th centuries.




The Native American struggle against the enslavement of blacks did not end with the relocation of the "five civilized nations" in 1830.
Native Americans were drawn into the U.S. Civil War, and on occasion they actually fought against whites and among themselves over slavery.
Katz reports that typically, "full blood" Indians sided with blacks and black Indians against whites and mixed-blood (mixed with white) Indian slaveholders (p. 141). (pp. 135-144)



Earlier examples from U.S. history of red-black solidarity and coalition include the following:

"The first full-scale battle between Native Americans and British colonist took place in Jamestown, Virginia, in 1622. ... According to historian James H. Johnson "the Indians murdered every white but saved the Negroes." This, noted Johnson, became a common pattern during wars between colonists and Indians." (p. 103)

Though Katz's history records many instances of red-black solidarity and coalitions throughout the history of the Americas, he does not overly idealize red-black relations. Katz acknowledges that there were instances when Native Americans and African-Americans were on opposite sides of battle lines. For example, Katz points to the fact that some Native Americans became slaveholders and sided with the Confederacy during the Civil War, and the fact that Black Seminole Indian scouts and black "buffalo soldiers" participated in the military defeat of Native Americans in the western states (pp. 78-80, 174-178). In those few instances where Native-Americans clashed with African-Americans, the red-black conflicts seem very muted when compared to red-white and black-white conflicts. For instance, where Native Americas learned to be slaveholders, they did not learn willingly or well. And where blacks fought Native Americans, the results were never genocidal. So while there are exceptions to the general pattern of red-black solidarity, the exceptions are relatively few and not at all protracted. The general rule for red-black relations has been acceptance, adoption, solidarity and coalition.

William Loren Katz's History of Red-Black Solidarity

What about the Cherokees?

what?

My ancestors on my dad side come from that indian tribe

There were a black Cherokee slave(s)

a little something about how cherokees treated their slaves

 

[Cadillac]

In those times, native and blacks were more often than not, on the same side which is why whites tried to pit them against each other








William Loren Katz's History of Red-Black Solidarity





what?




a little something about how cherokees treated their slaves

Thanks fam would rep but on 24s rn

 

[AB Ziggy]

I’m sure that’s gotta be confusing considering what they think makes an African American likely differs in a lot of ways than what actual African Americans thinks makes the cut.

African American simply applies to any type of black person born in America of African descent. Most people outside of America don't get that the term is also a specific ethnic group dating back hundreds of years.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

African American simply applies to any type of black person born in America of African descent. Most people outside of America don't get that the term is also a specific ethnic group dating back hundreds of years.

not true...how else were people around the world/outside the usa able to identify a specific experience/culture of "black americans" vs west indians or afrolatinos?

 

[kayslay]

I Never contradicted myself, I clearly stated Jamaicans don't consider you Jamaican if you were born here in america, they'll call you a Yankee in a derogatory way, it's a weird paradigm, I know my roots and i grew up in a Jamaican neighborhood but i was Americanized and i assimilated African American culture

You contradicted yourself because you said your family raised you as African American but then you went on to say you know your family is Jamaican you know the history and that your descendant of Maroons. Better yet your family contradicts themselves.
That’s NOT African American culture or history.
It’s odd that they’d say you’re an African American, not Jamaican. Calling you a yankee makes since especially if you’re from the North East but again that term doesn’t have anything to do with actual African American people.

Makes since why so many of you get confused.

 

[kayslay]

not true...how else were people around the world/outside the usa able to identify a specific experience/culture of "black americans" vs west indians or afrolatinos?

Exactly!