A Wiseman Told Me Never Argue With Fools: Official 2021 Warriors Season Thread

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tremonthustler1 said:
You’d have to reroute Wiseman somewhere. Indiana won’t want him
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I’m very intrigued to what his value is around the league right now. He showed some flashes but the lows were incredibly rough and the team looking so much better without him playing...
 
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Don Homer said:
i dont wanna trade Wiggins

but i dont see how we compete for a chip and try to develop wiseman :yeshrug:

trying to walk that fine line AGAIN is pure arrogance
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I'd personally still try to work it with Wiggins and Wiseman. The difference with Klay coming back is that he helps space the floor and makes it so Draymond and Wiseman's non-shooting is palatable. It also let's everyone settle back into their more natural roles. Wiggins as a 3rd option and nothing needed or expected with Wiseman offensively. I would have him locked in a room with some coaches or Draymond trying to work with him on learning defensive rotations and where he needs to be. If he can handle the basics defensively and just be a finisher offensively I see no reason why the Warriors couldn't both contend and develop him. Curry, Klay, Wiggins,and Draymond is a great foundation. If they can at least fill the bench with decent role players and Klay is anything like his old self they should have one of the top offensive and defensive teams.
 
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Flight said:
I’m very intrigued to what his value is around the league right now. He showed some flashes but the lows were incredibly rough and the team looking so much better without him playing...
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Probably still high for a couple of reasons

1. if he was in this draft, he still goes top 5.

2. Bigs take time. I hammered this point to death not too long ago. On a team trying to win now, any rookie’s lows will be magnified when you expect a 19 year old to be up to speed with a veteran squad. I’ll use this example again: Domantas Sabonis is the guy you look at to reconsider giving up on Wiseman too soon.

Bill Simmons I think brought up a fake trade proposal where Wiseman goes to Memphis for JJJ if the Grizzlies don’t wanna pay him huge money.

Charlotte to me is the one team that should just trade the pick barring a jump. Cleveland perhaps as well.
 
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tremonthustler1 said:
Probably still high for a couple of reasons

1. if he was in this draft, he still goes top 5.

2. Bigs take time. I hammered this point to death not too long ago. On a team trying to win now, any rookie’s lows will be magnified when you expect a 19 year old to be up to speed with a veteran squad. I’ll use this example again: Domantas Sabonis is the guy you look at to reconsider giving up on Wiseman too soon.

Bill Simmons I think brought up a fake trade proposal where Wiseman goes to Memphis for JJJ if the Grizzlies don’t wanna pay him huge money.

Charlotte to me is the one team that should just trade the pick barring a jump. Cleveland perhaps as well.
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If you keep him then I think he has to be a bench 15-20 mpg guy. He can’t start unless he takes a leap defensively. I’m with you on bigs taking time to adjust to the league but it’s a tricky situation cause Steph is still good enough to carry you to a ring.
 
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Bay Area said:
I'm in the minority that wants to keep Wiseman and the Minny pick so you have to ask the rest of the brehs about who they want to trade for. I just don't understand how people can still be so willing to throw away Wiggins as if he hasn't proven himself.
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It's his salary which is the issue.

He ties up a lot of cap space that could be better used on areas which they're more in need of, which is in the front court.
 
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aceboon said:
Only way you trade Wiggins is if you get an elite guy in return, you're gonna need him to defend top wings/guards again next year with Klay being a question mark after the injuries
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And the thing that’s not mentioned is he likely has to be the second scoring option for the first few months while Klay gets back in rhythm.
 
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