A Wiseman Told Me Never Argue With Fools: Official 2021 Warriors Season Thread

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:francis: Bazemore missed an open wiggins twice for the corner 3. One before Kerr called timeout and got trapped in the corner and the last play when kcp when to double Curry on the inbound leaving Wiggins for an open corner 3
Bazemore faked to an open poole in the corner to take a defender off the dribble and then attack andre drummond, leading to a hookshot that bounced off the backboard

Baze is just dumb
 

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Lakers got back in the game with those bullshyt calls early in the third. And then got back in the game again late in the fourth with more bullshyt calls.
0-5, two points, six turnovers and nobody paying attention to him after LA swarmed Steph all game.

Curry putting up 37 on that efficiency while the best defense in the league was singularly focused on shutting him down is a testament to his greatness. Clearly the best player in the league.
 

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I don’t get how the league is full of shyt refs, they need to get trained properly or fired just like in any other job. Yet they mess up calls game after game
Since nothing else has worked I wonder if it's time they added a 4th ref to the court. Just cause I'm out of other ideas.





The inbound count does not begin until the ball is "at the disposal of the player". Here is the rules definition of "at the disposal".


4-4-7: A ball is at the disposal of a player when it is:
a. Handed to a thrower or free thrower.
b. Caught by a player after it is bounced to him/her.

c. Placed on the floor at the spot.
d. Available to a player after a goal and the official begins the throw-in count.



My assumption would be that since Bron never caught the ball it wasn't considered at his disposal and thus the throw-in wasn't live yet. I don't know if that's the correct ruling though, I'm only going off of what happened really.
 

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:francis: Bazemore missed an open wiggins twice for the corner 3. One before Kerr called timeout and got trapped in the corner and the last play when kcp when to double Curry on the inbound leaving Wiggins for an open corner 3

Truly can’t stand him and his awful shot selection. If it isn’t a corner 3 he doesn’t need to shoot ever. I blame him just as much as the turnovers in the third for swinging the game.

I can’t wait for Kelly to get back to take all of Mulders minutes too. Bum gets stage fright every game
 
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0-5, two points, six turnovers and nobody paying attention to him after LA swarmed Steph all game.

Curry putting up 37 on that efficiency while the best defense in the league was singularly focused on shutting him down is a testament to his greatness. Clearly the best player in the league.
You gonna ignore what he did on defense?

You'd be hard pressed to find another performance in NBA history that rivaled how many points he saved on that end.

It goes without saying that he does need to score more, but to cherry-pick some offensive stats as if that was the main reason why the game turned in the second-half is disingenuous. Ultimately, the far more talented team had the benefit of the whistles and only won by ONE possession.
 

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You gonna ignore what he did on defense?

You'd be hard pressed to find another performance in NBA history that rivaled how many points he saved on that end.

It goes without saying that he does need to score more, but to cherry-pick some offensive stats as if that was the main reason why the game turned in the second-half is disingenuous. Ultimately, the far more talented team had the benefit of the whistles and only won by ONE possession.
I'm not gonna go back and forth with you because you have your own agenda you never deviate from. His defense was phenomenal but his offense negates much of it. I don't expect you to admit that.
 

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Bazemore faked to an open poole in the corner to take a defender off the dribble and then attack andre drummond, leading to a hookshot that bounced off the backboard

Baze is just dumb
That play and the selfish 1 vs 3 fast break layup attempts pissed me off. Draymond was tripping this game as well, trying to posterize Davis and Drummond twice. Literally wasting possessions.
 
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I'm not gonna go back and forth with you because you have your own agenda you never deviate from. His defense was phenomenal but his offense negates much of it. I don't expect you to admit that.
My agenda is to put his game/performance in its proper context. Every time they lose, you're always quick to point the finger at him, reiterating that they need to trade him. I'm well aware and I acknowledge his limited scoring skillset and how that affects the team, but that's always overemphasized by his detractors, because it's much easier to distinguish scoring vs. everything else he brings to the table. A lot of his struggles on offense, particularly as the game went on was when fatigue set in; it's what happens, particularly when you're undersized and you have to do fulfill all the roles he does on defense.

It's easier to point to where he should've done better because his shots are literally recorded right there in the box score, but all the things he did defensively isn't, so naturally, folks are going to magnify what is right there in front of them on paper, and not accurately weigh his missed shots vs. his defense.

It's like if x-player shoots 10-15 for 26 points, but is horrific on the defensive end, more folks will perceive that player to have a good performance, than the reverse of that.

The point here is that, Draymond isn't to blame, well, to be more specific, he's not the main component which led the Lakers back into the game. Without his defense, the Lakers would've run away with that game in the first quarter.
 

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crazy that the Warriors are so competitive with such limited personnel. That’s the power of Draymond-Curry together on the floor, one of the best duos ever.

the FO has to go for it in the offseason and not take those two for granted by building for a future when they’re gone, while they’re still in their championship prime right now. In a MU with the Lakers Draymond should really be playing most of the center minutes. So what purpose does Wiseman really have at the highest level?
 

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crazy that the Warriors are so competitive with such limited personnel. That’s the power of Draymond-Curry together on the floor, one of the best duos ever.

the FO has to go for it in the offseason and not take those two for granted by building for a future when they’re gone, while they’re still in their championship prime right now. In a MU with the Lakers Draymond should really be playing most of the center minutes. So what purpose does Wiseman really have at the highest level?
none

we better be making moves this offseason. But i wouldnt be surprised if the GO sits on their collective asses
 

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My agenda is to put his game/performance in its proper context. Every time they lose, you're always quick to point the finger at him, reiterating that they need to trade him. I'm well aware and I acknowledge his limited scoring skillset and how that affects the team, but that's always overemphasized by his detractors, because it's much easier to distinguish scoring vs. everything else he brings to the table. A lot of his struggles on offense, particularly as the game went on was when fatigue set in; it's what happens, particularly when you're undersized and you have to do fulfill all the roles he does on defense.

It's easier to point to where he should've done better because his shots are literally recorded right there in the box score, but all the things he did defensively isn't, so naturally, folks are going to magnify what is right there in front of them on paper, and not accurately weigh his missed shots vs. his defense.

It's like if x-player shoots 10-15 for 26 points, but is horrific on the defensive end, more folks will perceive that player to have a good performance, than the reverse of that.

The point here is that, Draymond isn't to blame, well, to be more specific, he's not the main component which led the Lakers back into the game. Without his defense, the Lakers would've run away with that game in the first quarter.
he and steph's constant turnovers in the 3rd fukked it up for us :yeshrug:
Draymond and steph together accounted for more than half our team's TO's

refs taking away 2 possessions down the stretch from Wes Matthews and AD flops were big. really if we dont fukk up that 3rd quarter, we win

and i dont wanna EVER see Mulder in over JTA. Steve talks about how he trusts JTA but benches him for Mulder. And JTA hit more 3's this game so wtf was the point of mulder? Also Wiggins fumbling the pass from draymond are the kinda things that sting down the stretch. entire too many possessions wasted
 
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