A Wiseman Told Me Never Argue With Fools: Official 2021 Warriors Season Thread
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I don't know what starting has to do with it, especially since no rookie will be starting over Steph-Klay-Wiggins-Draymond. It should be whoever gives this team the best chance of winning this upcoming season, and that easily can be someone who comes off the bench but plays 25+ minutes, and plays the 2-3 or 3-4, allowing the Warriors to run with different types of lineups. You can't do that with Wiseman. It's hard to see any scenario where Wiseman is averaging 25+ minutes in his rookie season on this team.We got a top 2 pick....if we draft a mufukka that can't start on day oneDeni not even dominating in Europe.
Playing in the Euroleague/IPBL is entirely different for young cats, who typically don't get the minutes to dominate or put up big stats. It's more team-orientated than individual-based.
I don't know about you but I wouldn't want to waste a top-2 pick on JaVale.I mean I’d rather have javale than hezonja anyday
I think the most realistic expectation for Wiseman is JaVale in the first 1-2 seasons, which is why I keep saying it doesn't make sense to draft him, when he won't scratch the surface of whatever player he'll become until Year 3-4 (unless he gets fast-tracked, which isn't happening on this team). And that's simply far too late for this core.I honestly think Wiseman at his WORST is Javale which isn't bad when you consider how dominant Javale looked at times in our offense
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If Deni isn't a knockdown shooter or above average defender how can he help us sooner than Wiseman?I don't know what starting has to do with it, especially since no rookie will be starting over Steph-Klay-Wiggins-Draymond. It should be whoever gives this team the best chance of winning this upcoming season, and that easily can be someone who comes off the bench but plays 25+ minutes, and plays the 2-3 or 3-4, allowing the Warriors to run with different types of lineups. You can't do that with Wiseman. It's hard to see any scenario where Wiseman is averaging 25+ minutes in his rookie season on this team.
Playing in the Euroleague/IPBL is entirely different for young cats, who typically don't get the minutes to dominate or put up big stats. It's more team-orientated than individual-based.
I don't know about you but I wouldn't want to waste a top-2 pick on JaVale.
I think the most realistic expectation for Wiseman is JaVale in the first 1-2 seasons, which is why I keep saying it doesn't make sense to draft him, when he won't scratch the surface of whatever player he'll become until Year 3-4 (unless he gets fast-tracked, which isn't happening on this team). And that's simply far too late for this core.
His versatility is more valuable than what Wiseman will provide in the next 1-2 seasons. He's basically a Euro Ben Simmons, who can shoot, but doesn't have the next-level athleticism. And look, I'm not saying Deni is the answer - I'm just saying that he's the type of player that Warriors need in the now.
What the Warriors need more than anything else is experience, which won't be coming from the draft.
The biggest worry is that Draymond doesn't end up finding his shot, and the Warriors simply won't be able to afford to have two bigs on the floor at the same time who can't shoot, which means Wiseman would be the odd-man-out. Especially since there are zero floor-spacers throughout the rest of their front-court rotation. It is why someone like Deni can mitigate those issues playing at the 4.
BlaqkSpliffin
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He can dribble to the top of the key and create for Steph and Klay while not being guarded. That works so well on our team. Look at Draymond and remember last years finals when Klay got hurt? Steph got so much offense from those "playmakers".
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He's actually a good midrange shooter and shoots well from the corners. He just takes too many long 2's and his shot selection can be iffy. He'll flourish as a 3rd option in a spaced out offense.
Imagine the floor spacing with Wiseman, Dray and Wiggins.....
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If it looks like Miami with Bam surrounded by better shootersImagine the floor spacing with Wiseman, Dray and Wiggins.....
You mean if it looks like Bam and shooters, which is essentially what the Warriors had with Draymond and shooters? What do you think happens to the spacing if the Warriors add another non-shooting threat into the equation?If it looks like Miami with Bam surrounded by better shooters
G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman
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Deni is a non-shooting threat tho. I'm more worried about rim protection and rebounding than I am shooting. I think Poole will be a better shooter next season than anyone going top 10 in this draft.
Well at least Wiggins isn’t in the dray territory of terrible from the outsideImagine the floor spacing with Wiseman, Dray and Wiggins.....
BlaqkSpliffin
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Wiggins got as many 40 point games as Kawhi does at 8. A 3 level scorer who ain't afraid to shoot that thang is exactly what the dubs needed.
2 floor spacers in Steph and Klay
An athletic slasher
A point forward
Now all we need is that vertical spacer and rim protector and this team will be hard to stop no matter who we playing
BlaqkSpliffin
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You know whose a solid playmaking center who'd be cheap and also give us some edge in the frontcourt?
Joakim Noah
He's at the very least capable of giving us Zaza minutes. Plus he hates LeBron enough to make up for Dray's dikkeating
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