A Wiseman Told Me Never Argue With Fools: Official 2021 Warriors Season Thread

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Your wrong, when your drafting in the top 2 you go for the hr. The warriors won’t be in this situation again for probably 5 years, make it count. Also the warriors interior situation is trash, they need a athletic freak inside to compete. Trade for mediocre and you’ll get mediocre. Warriors probably can’t even keep chriss beyond next season.
I'm not wrong.

The very fact that the Warriors won't have an asset like this for the foreseeable future, is all the more reason to make it count. The Warriors are NOT a rebuilding team, so you can't use that blanket logic that you would for 99.9% of lottery teams, who're in a position to take that risk. They're a team that needs to win right now; they're not in a position to wait around on the development of an unproven prospect. Neither you nor I know what Wiseman will be in the league, so it's no good sticking out your chest and being definitive with your projection of him as if you can see into the future.

I'm not even saying that using the pick on him is the right/wrong option, I'm simply saying that the real value of it is making sure it's used to maximize whatever time this team has left at the top, whatever that may be (using it on Wiseman; trading down and adding depth; using it to bring in another star and/or add depth).
Steph is Klay done added 2-3 years more to their careers with KD coming and Steph being off fam near another 2 years due to wrist injury and Covid shutting down season.. Don’t be surprised Steph still playing at a high level when he’s well into 36-37 years old... Klay will be around well into his 40s because of his shooting
Regardless, of how long Steph and Klay will be in the league, this core's championship window has about 1-2 seasons left. This is why I'm not convinced of using the #2 pick on an unproven prospect is the right route to take.

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I think the key to us keeping the pick and taking Wiseman is riding on Wiggins

If he could be a 20/6/4 type offensive threat with good defense like his potential suggest then I wouldnt even think to pass up having him and Wiseman next to the OG Warriors
In the handful of games I saw of Wiggins last year I liked his defensive effort. From an offensive standpoint I hope he’s working on his 3 point shot all offseason. He’s gonna get a ton of open looks with Steph and klay on the floor. If he can hit 40% warriors will be a top seed.
 

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If y'all do draft Wiseman, I hope he pans out and contributes to winning next season, but I'm not convinced it's the right route to take. At the end of the day, y'all core has a diminishing window, so the legal tender of that pick is maximizing whatever time is left before that window closes - rather than being of currency for a rebuild. Its value is using it on what is proven (players in the league who can help out right now), rather than on an unproven prospect, who'll fall between the spectrum of being a star from day one, or ending up being Hasheem Thabeet.

If this were 2015 and Steph, Klay and Dray were all five years younger, then picking Wiseman would make a lot more sense. But it's not.
I agree only if they can get an all star with the number 2 pick. If that’s not happening trading for role players and depth doesn’t do shyt for the warriors’ championship aspirations.
 

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Any chance Minnesota actually drafts wiseman?
Always a chance with an organization like Minnesota that has a history of doing weird ass shyt, but if they’re thinking straight drafting Wiseman wouldn’t make any sense with KAT there.
 

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I'm not wrong.

The very fact that the Warriors won't have an asset like this for the foreseeable future, is all the more reason to make it count. The Warriors are NOT a rebuilding team, so you can't use that blanket logic that you would for 99.9% of lottery teams, who're in a position to take that risk. They're a team that needs to win right now; they're not in a position to wait around on the development of an unproven prospect. Neither you nor I know what Wiseman will be in the league, so it's no good sticking out your chest and being definitive with your projection of him as if you can see into the future.

I'm not even saying that using the pick on him is the right/wrong option, I'm simply saying that the real value of it is making sure it's used to maximize whatever time this team has left at the top, whatever that may be (using it on Wiseman; trading down and adding depth; using it to bring in another star and/or add depth).

Regardless, of how long Steph and Klay will be in the league, this core's championship window has about 1-2 seasons left. This is why I'm not convinced of using the #2 pick on an unproven prospect is the right route to take.

:manny:

This team needs to win now, they are deficient in the front court, I don’t see how they can compete without a top tier player upfront. Look at both la teams, milk, and Toronto. Could wiseman bust? Sure but if he doesnt he’s one hell of a weapon inside for years to come. adding mediocre vets only hurts the warriors short term and long term. We all know the nba is about stars, TAKE THE RISK!
 

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Always a chance with an organization like Minnesota that has a history of doing weird ass shyt, but if they’re thinking straight drafting Wiseman wouldn’t make any sense with KAT there.
they gotta take Edwards

not too often that their number 1 overall pick is also an excellent fit positionally.
 

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I'm not wrong.

The very fact that the Warriors won't have an asset like this for the foreseeable future, is all the more reason to make it count. The Warriors are NOT a rebuilding team, so you can't use that blanket logic that you would for 99.9% of lottery teams, who're in a position to take that risk. They're a team that needs to win right now; they're not in a position to wait around on the development of an unproven prospect. Neither you nor I know what Wiseman will be in the league, so it's no good sticking out your chest and being definitive with your projection of him as if you can see into the future.

I'm not even saying that using the pick on him is the right/wrong option, I'm simply saying that the real value of it is making sure it's used to maximize whatever time this team has left at the top, whatever that may be (using it on Wiseman; trading down and adding depth; using it to bring in another star and/or add depth).

Regardless, of how long Steph and Klay will be in the league, this core's championship window has about 1-2 seasons left. This is why I'm not convinced of using the #2 pick on an unproven prospect is the right route to take.

:manny:

If they can flip the #2 for embid/Simmons or Gannis then by all means
 

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If y'all do draft Wiseman, I hope he pans out and contributes to winning next season, but I'm not convinced it's the right route to take. At the end of the day, y'all core has a diminishing window, so the legal tender of that pick is maximizing whatever time is left before that window closes - rather than being of currency for a rebuild. Its value is using it on what is proven (players in the league who can help out right now), rather than on an unproven prospect, who'll fall between the spectrum of being a star from day one, or ending up being Hasheem Thabeet.

If this were 2015 and Steph, Klay and Dray were all five years younger, then picking Wiseman would make a lot more sense. But it's not.
I'm not willing to give up a potential AD type talent for 1 championship. He might be a guy we can build around.
 

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I dont know if he can

dude hasnt delivered for 6 seasons.
In seasons he's had 5 coaches. Situation matters more than we admit. Look at his numbers the year before Jimmy came. He was trending up and then the team traded everyone and changed the gameplan.
 

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I think Wiggins will actually excel. No more pressure to be the guy. All he has to do is shoot and defend :ohhh:
He gonna be forgotten about when steph is getting double teamed and klay is getting run off the 3pt line

If he can't average at least 15ppg then :hhh:
He avg 17 playing next to Butler and KAT:gucci:

Wiggins might surpass Paul George next season:mjlol::lolbron:
 

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Sixers/Warriors/Suns trade:

Warriors get Horford, the Suns 10th pick and Kelly Oubre

Sixers get Wiggins and some second rounders

Suns gets 2nd pick in the draft and take LaMelo


Not saying I want this to happen but it's not out of the realm of possibility :hubie:


Edit: Might be able to snake Thybulle too:yeshrug:
 
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