A Wiseman Told Me Never Argue With Fools: Official 2021 Warriors Season Thread

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Wiseman shooting and touch look underrated. I think he's more of skill big (aldridge vibes)
 

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I say keep the pick

with it we have our starting 5 complete. Wiseman is an athletic center that looks like he can guard all 5 positions. That means we can keep him on the floor if teams wanna go small and switch everything. That’s excellent

what I’m concerned about is the bench. We need depth at the small forward position. We still don’t have that taken care of. Bob and joe gotta make it work with those two 2nd round picks we got for trading Burks, GR3, and WCS. If possible, move up in the draft and take the best wing available.
 

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Nah... You have to trade it if you want to stay up to speed with the test of the division.

I would swap with Cleveland and see what they're talking about with Drummond.

They got the guard play and Wiggins can flourish as a third option but be a guy who can create his own shot. If I'm Kerr and Meyers I would shortly start to phase Draymond out and include Paschall more.

At that point, all you need is someone who can block shots and get you a bunch of rebounds.

So yeah... Either Drummond or at the very worst (which is only worst because he's not nearly as great a rebounder as Drummond but is on par as a shot blocker) Mitch Robinson. Only problem there is Knicks pick is way too low and they have no one else to offer that could sweetened the deal.
Drummond only care about stats and don't run the floor hard. I'd rather bring Cousins back on the vet mini than trade for Drummond:hhh:
 

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Can't comprehend why people think we should trade a potential dominant big when that's the main thing we're missing.

I get the trepidation, and there are things to be concerned/aware of. But he seems to fit what we need:

young
tall
athletic
above the rim player (lobs/blocks)
shot blocker/rebounder
decent shot that can possibly be improved on
Isn't lost with the ball in his hands (Hi D Jones!! :smile: )

I could understand trading back and picking up some (needed) pieces, but I'd so much rather keep him and go vet/mins for some other spots on the roster. I challenge anyone to look at those clips above and NOT want to see him and Steph/Klay abuse other teams.
 

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An alternate trade option that doesn't include moving the #2:

I think the single most likely move that the warriors make on draft day is to package their two second rounders + cash considerations to try to move way up into the back of the first round.

Here's why that makes sense. In a weak draft, it is sometimes possible to buy first round picks. The warriors did this years ago when they bought the draft rights to Nedovic at the end of round 1 back in 2013 (a really weak draft year). In drafts that are considered "weak" (and I consider 2020 much better then 2013, but still, on the weak end) even first rounders can be available for sale.

Also, the money crunch. The cap and luxury tax are going to fall next year. We don't know how much yet (has to be bargained with the player's union) but we do know the number is falling. More teams will be in the tax, and fewer teams, particularly good teams with large payrolls, will want to take on the obligation of a guaranteed salary for a first round pick. Two non-guaranteed second round salaries might be preferable; even if the picks are much lower.

Joe Lacob has never been afraid to spend money, and by spending a lot of money, the warriors can buy their way from two second rounders to a late first round pick, possibly as high as the 20-25 range. Miami and Milwaukee are two teams in that range that might want to trade out due to tax concerns.

If the warriors can trade up, Theo Maledon is the ideal fit to target. He probably won't go in the top 20 picks because he's a "meh" athlete for an NBA player, but as a long term backup PG, he's what you want: smart, big (great size), high IQ, good passer, good shooter. He's a classic low ceiling/high floor player.

Also, several really good wings, capable of making an immediate NBA impact, should be available in that range. Taking one of them makes a lot of sense too.

That would be my ideal trade: warriors package their two second rounders + full cash considerations to Milwaukee for its pick at #24 overall. The Bucks probably don't want another guaranteed contract on the books anyway, and they don't want a first rounder who probably can't crack their rotation.

The #2 overall pick is for taking a swing for the fences, and trying to draft a star. Trading back up into the first round is for taking a player whose ready to play now and can help right now.

I really like the fit with Wiseman if he's there at #2 overall. I think if the warriors manage to deal their way into Wiseman + Maledon, that's an A+ draft; one guy to be the future of the franchise, and the other to come in and help win right away.


I like this idea, a lot if it is/becomes an option.....
 

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I get the trepidation, and there are things to be concerned/aware of. But he seems to fit what we need:

young
tall
athletic
above the rim player (lobs/blocks)
shot blocker/rebounder
decent shot that can possibly be improved on
Isn't lost with the ball in his hands (Hi D Jones!! :smile: )

I could understand trading back and picking up some (needed) pieces, but I'd so much rather keep him and go vet/mins for some other spots on the roster. I challenge anyone to look at those clips above and NOT want to see him and Steph/Klay abuse other teams.
Steph deserves to play with a top notch center in his prime before he retires.
 

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On 95.7 Steinmetz and Guru was talking about trading the pick for Kelly Oubre...:palm:Bay Area Sports radio is so bad besides Damon Bruce's show.
 
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