A Stripper Caused Umar Johnson to Lose a One Million Dollar Donation

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It's not that Umar Johnson is having sex with a stripper, Its the fact that he is saying he celibate but he fukking on some broad.It's the fact that he is advocating that men should not have sex out of wedlock and sistas should be not promisous. Its Dr Umar Johnson's fault since he once to make himself into Monk .I don't known any conscious person who is saying men should not screw, its like deciding to walk with crutches when both your legs are have no incurred injuries.

I can see why this is raising a red flag ,because she is a stripper and its very likely the donation money for Umar's academy are being used to tip this bytch. I don't have any problem with hoes or sluts that screw around, thats on their time not mine.I am also not Cap N Save em either, so I am wondering why people are saying he treated this broad like a thot when he called her wifey and he also was following around this broad?He also said he need a massage therapist.And yes, yall can get mad at the conscious stripper title but look Iesha Sekhmat,Isis ,and any other conscious broad out here,many of them was a stripper.

I never really had a problem with Umar Johnson, I never was a supporter but I knew he had his hustle more strategized than Tariq and Tommy.
Dr Umar Johnson talks about traditions but still has their last name and still has an Arab first name,so he can't be that meticulous.

The truth is many of these so called leaders come about is because they are the ones with most hits on youtube yelling black power. And people fall for the cheese on the trap..

I also don't see the urgency to get a new school for black children, yes it would be good. But thats not first priority I beleive many of the past generations have fought hard fot blacks to have free education ''Brown vs The Board of Education''. Sending your kid to a private school is a luxury and thats not something the average black parent would want or need ,so Umar needs to deal with that reality. Besides with standardized tests,guidelines, and requisites for private schools,there is no escaping that the state government controls the pace of the way children learn.


Exactly, I was always a bit skeptical of Umar Johnson, but I always believed that one's skepticism should not determine a person. Now with that being said there is nothing wrong with having consensual protected sex, BUT when you put yourself out there as a leader, tell black men how to act, tell black women how to act, talk about building the black family, say you dislike weave (Nothing is wrong with that), say if girls attend your school they can not wear weave, say you want a queen, tell black women not to be whores, then go on to say that you are celibate while you are willingly sleeping with a woman that is the COMPLETE opposite of what you tell black women to be like then you are a hypocrite.
In addition to that, while making up a complete lie about a million dollar donation you then proceed to call the woman a whore, maggot, and tramp. Well if that is what she is then why did you continue sleeping with her? She told him that she would tell others his true characters, and he said nobody would believe a stripper. Ok so if he thought that low of her and so high of him why lay down with her if he knew what she is about? Why do that if you know that in public you preach a totally different message? People keep saying she came in a different style. Look Umar is not stupid. He is a grown man that can see through Africanism conscious shyt that many brothers and sisters like to spout. Umar thought he was going to smash another one of his low self esteem single mother follower. There are black women out there, especially single mothers who look for male guidance for themselves and their son. They see Umar as a strong male leader and look up to him like a God. This man is bamboozling people out of their money. When he found out she is a stripper he never called her out or tried to make hr bounce he continued to call her wifey, queen, empress, and etc.
There is no accounting of the donation money that he is receiving. On the advise show interview the first caller was mad that Umar has to give accounting for the money. She said she was going to bed but now has to show proof abut what is going on with the money. Now you think about that? You never thought that you should show proof like class curriculums, teachers, interior infrastructure, ten year business plans, where the students will sleep, what the students will eat, how to fund school supplies, and etc. I donated more than $250 in the beginning of his fundraised project more than a year ago. Then around a month ago I gave another $100. Also how does Umar plan to keep the school up and running years from now? Donations? Why doesn't Umar go to the black engineers, doctors, nurse pracitioners, professors, principals, attorneys, farmers, lawyers, prosecuters, judges, radio host, small business owners and also include them in their funding? Most of the people who look up to Umar are lower middle class, and poor black people who have no hope and see him as their protectors.
Now he is talking about building the school in Africa, yet a few years ago he was criticizing Oprah for building a school in South Africa. This man called his black donaters lazy for donating online and not sending the money in through a post office to his non taxable charity. Now they are saying that he will release dates and etc to only those who donated. Umar is a hustler just like the rest.
 

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I made the other thread and I talk shyt. .... but I forgot this site isn't among bruh and real nikkas

So let me just say.... Umar is unmarried and did nothing wrong. fukked a hoe because smuts are there to be fukked and he didn't violate any held position or system that he's assigned to.


The text n situation is dumb as fukk but let's not pretend that this young lady wasn't a hotep set up. Idk if it was the GOVERNMENT. ... I couldn't prove that. .... but she saved all messages and she set him up. She tried to save face during the messages n shyt "don't talk to me like a whore"..... meanwhile she was swollowing his kids while her kid was in jail.... and she's a 40 year old stripper Not a victim. ..... not a victim but a weapon.

I think Umar is a fukk nikka for those donations and lack of doing the school and the whole way he acts. ........ but he's a popular hotep..... so in turn is a target.


nikka was targeted , imo, and was just being a dumb simp.


But he's not wrong.
 

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Umar was targeted? By who? Isis? The CIA? Russian Spies? Boko Harem?

Umar thought he was going to be smashing another one of his star struck single mother groupie followers. At no point did he tell this woman in the text messages, "Hey you are a stripper. I need to separate myself from you because I tell people to act one way, but I am not doing what I preach. Also you should not be stripping when you are over 40 with a son. No queen, or empress acts like that, and that does not make you wifey material.". Nobody is mad about him smashing a stripper, but he went around preaching all of this stuff and talking about what HE DOES NOT participate in and who he refuses to lay with, but lays down with the same woman that he say's we should not deal with, should not be like, and he would not lay with. Trust me, he is smashing more of his groupie followers, which I do not mind because they are so bent on having a male leader in their life (a good thing) that the first man that calls them a queen and spits some African history on kill crakka shyt they spread their legs. The man then makes up a million dollar donation story. Who is donating a million dollars to a non taxable charity?? Why doesn't he have treasurers and etc watching over the money that mostly lower income black people are donating to? Now that people are asking about real accounting's of the money and not just what he say's has been donated we are called c00ns. Previously he said negroes are lazy for donating online and paypal froze his account, and now a baller does not want to give him a million?
 

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Exactly, I was always a bit skeptical of Umar Johnson, but I always believed that one's skepticism should not determine a person. Now with that being said there is nothing wrong with having consensual protected sex, BUT when you put yourself out there as a leader, tell black men how to act, tell black women how to act, talk about building the black family, say you dislike weave (Nothing is wrong with that), say if girls attend your school they can not wear weave, say you want a queen, tell black women not to be whores, then go on to say that you are celibate while you are willingly sleeping with a woman that is the COMPLETE opposite of what you tell black women to be like then you are a hypocrite.
In addition to that, while making up a complete lie about a million dollar donation you then proceed to call the woman a whore, maggot, and tramp. Well if that is what she is then why did you continue sleeping with her? She told him that she would tell others his true characters, and he said nobody would believe a stripper. Ok so if he thought that low of her and so high of him why lay down with her if he knew what she is about? Why do that if you know that in public you preach a totally different message? People keep saying she came in a different style. Look Umar is not stupid. He is a grown man that can see through Africanism conscious shyt that many brothers and sisters like to spout. Umar thought he was going to smash another one of his low self esteem single mother follower. There are black women out there, especially single mothers who look for male guidance for themselves and their son. They see Umar as a strong male leader and look up to him like a God. This man is bamboozling people out of their money. When he found out she is a stripper he never called her out or tried to make hr bounce he continued to call her wifey, queen, empress, and etc.
There is no accounting of the donation money that he is receiving. On the advise show interview the first caller was mad that Umar has to give accounting for the money. She said she was going to bed but now has to show proof abut what is going on with the money. Now you think about that? You never thought that you should show proof like class curriculums, teachers, interior infrastructure, ten year business plans, where the students will sleep, what the students will eat, how to fund school supplies, and etc. I donated more than $250 in the beginning of his fundraised project more than a year ago. Then around a month ago I gave another $100. Also how does Umar plan to keep the school up and running years from now? Donations? Why doesn't Umar go to the black engineers, doctors, nurse pracitioners, professors, principals, attorneys, farmers, lawyers, prosecuters, judges, radio host, small business owners and also include them in their funding? Most of the people who look up to Umar are lower middle class, and poor black people who have no hope and see him as their protectors.
Now he is talking about building the school in Africa, yet a few years ago he was criticizing Oprah for building a school in South Africa. This man called his black donaters lazy for donating online and not sending the money in through a post office to his non taxable charity. Now they are saying that he will release dates and etc to only those who donated. Umar is a hustler just like the rest.

Well good luck and bless your soul for the donation.Cause I don't know where he is going with this school thing is going, this is also the same dude that said Paypal froze his $100,000 account and I think the donaters have not received any updates or any reimbursements.On the Advise Show, the host stated he doesn't talk about his projects he is working on so he understands Umar, but Umar's situation is different since his projects are being funded by the fans money.So transparency during donations is a bit of mandate to ensure its scam free. People have been swindled out their money all in the name they think they are doing good for the cause.


The Conscious Community is full of fakes ,its becoming the new church. Its a new hustle. And its sad because the conscious community are also giving some black political and grassroots movement leaders a bad name.I'm sure there are some out there with good intentions but they don't get the spotlight.And people are dumb these youtube personalities are only big because the viewers are propelling their popularity, but if you look prior to their youtube accounts or book debuts they were nobodies.


This independent schooling Umar is talking about is something black folks don't need right now,it can come later on. More over there has been many independent black schools made by the Nation of Islam ,yet these schools have had no affect on the African American social scene.

Whats funny is people like Tariq Nasheed, Tommy Sotomayor ,and Umar Johnson are scam artists. They need youtube to sell themselves and use it under the guise of problackness.Tommy Sotomayor's movie is like people waiting on Dr Dre's next album.Tariq Nasheed is making documentaries that are full of misinformation .


He simped on the stripper broad tremendously, at least your average politician isn't exposed on this level by a stripper, so he is not ready for the political sphere. The truth is he wanted to be her wifey and it flopped.This Khym Rhygold made it clear that she chastised this dude something ridiculous. And I bet she is having fun because Umar tricked off some of his donation money on her and now she is making a big joke out of him
 
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Exactly, I was always a bit skeptical of Umar Johnson, but I always believed that one's skepticism should not determine a person. Now with that being said there is nothing wrong with having consensual protected sex, BUT when you put yourself out there as a leader, tell black men how to act, tell black women how to act, talk about building the black family, say you dislike weave (Nothing is wrong with that), say if girls attend your school they can not wear weave, say you want a queen, tell black women not to be whores, then go on to say that you are celibate while you are willingly sleeping with a woman that is the COMPLETE opposite of what you tell black women to be like then you are a hypocrite.
In addition to that, while making up a complete lie about a million dollar donation you then proceed to call the woman a whore, maggot, and tramp. Well if that is what she is then why did you continue sleeping with her? She told him that she would tell others his true characters, and he said nobody would believe a stripper. Ok so if he thought that low of her and so high of him why lay down with her if he knew what she is about? Why do that if you know that in public you preach a totally different message? People keep saying she came in a different style. Look Umar is not stupid. He is a grown man that can see through Africanism conscious shyt that many brothers and sisters like to spout. Umar thought he was going to smash another one of his low self esteem single mother follower. There are black women out there, especially single mothers who look for male guidance for themselves and their son. They see Umar as a strong male leader and look up to him like a God. This man is bamboozling people out of their money. When he found out she is a stripper he never called her out or tried to make hr bounce he continued to call her wifey, queen, empress, and etc.
There is no accounting of the donation money that he is receiving. On the advise show interview the first caller was mad that Umar has to give accounting for the money. She said she was going to bed but now has to show proof abut what is going on with the money. Now you think about that? You never thought that you should show proof like class curriculums, teachers, interior infrastructure, ten year business plans, where the students will sleep, what the students will eat, how to fund school supplies, and etc. I donated more than $250 in the beginning of his fundraised project more than a year ago. Then around a month ago I gave another $100. Also how does Umar plan to keep the school up and running years from now? Donations? Why doesn't Umar go to the black engineers, doctors, nurse pracitioners, professors, principals, attorneys, farmers, lawyers, prosecuters, judges, radio host, small business owners and also include them in their funding? Most of the people who look up to Umar are lower middle class, and poor black people who have no hope and see him as their protectors.
Now he is talking about building the school in Africa, yet a few years ago he was criticizing Oprah for building a school in South Africa. This man called his black donaters lazy for donating online and not sending the money in through a post office to his non taxable charity. Now they are saying that he will release dates and etc to only those who donated. Umar is a hustler just like the rest.
It's a shame what that man is doing to the people that believe in his message. He's a fukk nikka.
 

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Exactly, I was always a bit skeptical of Umar Johnson, but I always believed that one's skepticism should not determine a person. Now with that being said there is nothing wrong with having consensual protected sex, BUT when you put yourself out there as a leader, tell black men how to act, tell black women how to act, talk about building the black family, say you dislike weave (Nothing is wrong with that), say if girls attend your school they can not wear weave, say you want a queen, tell black women not to be whores, then go on to say that you are celibate while you are willingly sleeping with a woman that is the COMPLETE opposite of what you tell black women to be like then you are a hypocrite.
In addition to that, while making up a complete lie about a million dollar donation you then proceed to call the woman a whore, maggot, and tramp. Well if that is what she is then why did you continue sleeping with her? She told him that she would tell others his true characters, and he said nobody would believe a stripper. Ok so if he thought that low of her and so high of him why lay down with her if he knew what she is about? Why do that if you know that in public you preach a totally different message? People keep saying she came in a different style. Look Umar is not stupid. He is a grown man that can see through Africanism conscious shyt that many brothers and sisters like to spout. Umar thought he was going to smash another one of his low self esteem single mother follower. There are black women out there, especially single mothers who look for male guidance for themselves and their son. They see Umar as a strong male leader and look up to him like a God. This man is bamboozling people out of their money. When he found out she is a stripper he never called her out or tried to make hr bounce he continued to call her wifey, queen, empress, and etc.
There is no accounting of the donation money that he is receiving. On the advise show interview the first caller was mad that Umar has to give accounting for the money. She said she was going to bed but now has to show proof abut what is going on with the money. Now you think about that? You never thought that you should show proof like class curriculums, teachers, interior infrastructure, ten year business plans, where the students will sleep, what the students will eat, how to fund school supplies, and etc. I donated more than $250 in the beginning of his fundraised project more than a year ago. Then around a month ago I gave another $100. Also how does Umar plan to keep the school up and running years from now? Donations? Why doesn't Umar go to the black engineers, doctors, nurse pracitioners, professors, principals, attorneys, farmers, lawyers, prosecuters, judges, radio host, small business owners and also include them in their funding? Most of the people who look up to Umar are lower middle class, and poor black people who have no hope and see him as their protectors.
Now he is talking about building the school in Africa, yet a few years ago he was criticizing Oprah for building a school in South Africa. This man called his black donaters lazy for donating online and not sending the money in through a post office to his non taxable charity. Now they are saying that he will release dates and etc to only those who donated. Umar is a hustler just like the rest.


Bottom line is he owes you absolutely nothing. None of you. You donated $250 a yr ago then $100 a month ago and you only now asking detailed questions about things. You're among thousands doing the same thing............If I'm Umar I'm gonna keep getting these paid speaking engagement to raise more funds then keep on not answering a damn thing Because I Don't Have TO. There's no reason to answer shyt AFTER the donation money has already been sent.....and who the fukk has time to actually teach or come up with any details and business plans when you flying around the world every week to talk, raise donation money for yourself and fukk Hotep Thots?
 

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Do you read what you write before you click submit???
If you are collecting the public's money you HAVE to show them blue prints, accounting done through a treasurer that is a financial analyst and/or CPA, interior infrastructure so that parents sending their kids there know that the inside of the school is safe, educational curriculum, what the kids will be eating, the rooming situation, the bathroom situation, who will be teaching there and whether or not the parents are ok with it, and etc.
Who the fukk has time to make a business plan or blue print? Are you stupid or just stupid? IF YOU ARE TRYING TO START UP A BUSINESS THAT REQUIRES THE PUBLIC'S MONEY YOU NEED (AS A MATTER OF FACT OWE) TO SHOW THE PUBLIC WHAT IS GOING ON, ESPECIALLY IF THIS PROJECT INVOLVES TEACHING THE PUBLIC'S CHILDREN. Putting little pictures of the school's and walking around the campus is not enough. Thankfully I make a good enough income, and I have no kids so putting in that type of money was not a big deal to me. Umar flies around the world teaching repetitive shyt. Like ok we get it dude psychologically black people are messed up, shyt sucks, and white people are crazy. Yeah ok I get it. Thank Goodness I have a father that was in my life. Thanks to him I am not one of these insecure black folks running around dying for a father figure. Too many so called leaders popping up out of nowhere telling you what needs to be done. At least Umar is a better hustler than Tariq and Tommy.

Look at this website for a deaf school. They have EVERYTHING one needs to know about the school. My point is that you know what you are sending your kids to.
http://aidb.org/

Now look at Dr.Umar's schools website. This shyt looks like something I could create in introduction to web development.
http://drumarjohnsonschool.com/community.html

We do not even know where the students will be sleeping, what they will be eating or learning. That is easy to come up with.
 

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Well good luck and bless your soul for the donation.Cause I don't know where he is going with this school thing is going, this is also the same dude that said Paypal froze his $100,000 account and I think the donaters have not received any updates or any reimbursements.On the Advise Show, the host stated he doesn't talk about his projects he is working on so he understands Umar, but Umar's situation is different since his projects are being funded by the fans money.So transparency during donations is a bit of mandate to ensure its scam free. People have been swindled out their money all in the name they think they are doing good for the cause.


The Conscious Community is full of fakes ,its becoming the new church. Its a new hustle. And its sad because the conscious community are also giving some black political and grassroots movement leaders a bad name.I'm sure there are some out there with good intentions but they don't get the spotlight.And people are dumb these youtube personalities are only big because the viewers are propelling their popularity, but if you look prior to their youtube accounts or book debuts they were nobodies.


This independent schooling Umar is talking about is something black folks don't need right now,it can come later on. More over there has been many independent black schools made by the Nation of Islam ,yet these schools have had no affect on African American social scene.

Whats funny is people like Tariq Nasheed, Tommy Sotomayor ,and Umar Johnson are scam artists. They need youtube to sell themselves and use it under the guise of problackness.Tommy Sotomayor's movie is like people waiting on Dr Dre's next album.Tariq Nasheed is making documentaries that are full of misinformation .


He simped on the stripper broad tremendously, at least your average politician isn't exposed on this level by a stripper, so he is not ready for the political sphere. The truth is he wanted to be her wifey and it flopped.This Khym Rhygold made it clear that she chastised this dude something ridiculous. And I bet she is having fun because Umar tricked off some his donation money on her and now she is making big joke out of him

I'm not mad about donating over $350, lol. I would've spent that money shopping, or on something else(House projects, traveling, or whatever). I make a good income so it is fun money to me. I'm not investing over $1,000 into anything that does not have 100% accurate proof. I was skeptical of Umar, but I said let me stop doubting the brother and contribute to the success of young black boys. So I threw in the money and said let me see what he does. Sometimes we doubt people and never give them a chance. This man has been fundraising for a few years now. Dude can just rent a small house and turn it into an all boys after school program that teaches amazing information. People will see how good the turn out rate is and want to help him with a bigger school for 100 young black boys. Plus him saying how much he ahs raised is not reliable. I can say I am a multi millionaire that lives in a three story 6 bedroom house in NYC. It does not mean that it is true.

You are right Umar speaks about imminent danger, black boys being shot down, black boys being killed off, and etc yet he feels a school would be the best idea right now? What black people need are engineers, doctors, computer scientist, nurse practitioners, principals, judges, prosecutors, mayors, attorneys. entrepreneurs, scientist, and etc. We need to be leaders within ourselves and stop looking for leaders. A few months from now when this man packs and moves to Africa, or opens a school that later has ANOTHER scandal I will laugh my ass off.
 

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I'm not mad about donating over $350, lol. I would've spent that money shopping, or on something else(House projects, traveling, or whatever). I make a good income so it is fun money to me. I'm not investing over $1,000 into anything that does not have 100% accurate proof. I was skeptical of Umar, but I said let me stop doubting the brother and contribute to the success of young black boys. So I threw in the money and said let me see what he does. Sometimes we doubt people and never give them a chance. This man has been fundraising for a few years now. Dude can just rent a small house and turn it into an all boys after school program that teaches amazing information. People will see how good the turn out rate is and want to help him with a bigger school for 100 young black boys. Plus him saying how much he ahs raised is not reliable. I can say I am a multi millionaire that lives in a three story 6 bedroom house in NYC. It does not mean that it is true.

You are right Umar speaks about imminent danger, black boys being shot down, black boys being killed off, and etc yet he feels a school would be the best idea right now? What black people need are engineers, doctors, computer scientist, nurse practitioners, principals, judges, prosecutors, mayors, attorneys. entrepreneurs, scientist, and etc. We need to be leaders within ourselves and stop looking for leaders. A few months from now when this man packs and moves to Africa, or opens a school that later has ANOTHER scandal I will laugh my ass off.

Its more than just investing money, its vested faith in what his movement. And these false prophets are not just stealing money they are stealing hope and hijacking optimism. I know there is some real solid dudes out there with good plans to hatch, but not these brothas and sistas who come with the typical charades and worn out rhetoric. Its so much gossiping and beefing in the Conscious Community its ridiculous. Umar Johnson himself was beefing with Saa Neter These conscious folks are so divided but one in the same,they need each other to debate and put on a show. Fighting over which non/black society was better , a Moor(a MENA/Arab) or a Hebrew Israelite(a Jew).But its sad cause some want to be supportive but these dudes screw off the chances of moving together as one.
 

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I made the other thread and I talk shyt. .... but I forgot this site isn't among bruh and real nikkas

So let me just say.... Umar is unmarried and did nothing wrong. fukked a hoe because smuts are there to be fukked and he didn't violate any held position or system that he's assigned to.


The text n situation is dumb as fukk but let's not pretend that this young lady wasn't a hotep set up. Idk if it was the GOVERNMENT. ... I couldn't prove that. .... but she saved all messages and she set him up. She tried to save face during the messages n shyt "don't talk to me like a whore"..... meanwhile she was swollowing his kids while her kid was in jail.... and she's a 40 year old stripper Not a victim. ..... not a victim but a weapon.

I think Umar is a fukk nikka for those donations and lack of doing the school and the whole way he acts. ........ but he's a popular hotep..... so in turn is a target.


nikka was targeted , imo, and was just being a dumb simp.


But he's not wrong.

So the government is hiring local backroom strippers now?lol
He fukked a wp,am yet advocated black men stop having unmarried sex. Thats the problem.You dudes look at too much youtube, cause many of these fly-by-night conscious dudes don't have a good spiel.I've seen panhandlers with better hustles.

Can't put your support behind anyone cause this is the shyt that happens. Umar Johnson was not framed by this stripper,he wasn't forced to screw this woman, he decided to screw this woman on his on accord and thats fine.Just stop being a hypocrite.
 

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I can't believe Tommy is dropping real shyt. He's a c00n but the c00n wasn't lying in this video

Edit. He's lying about "white women don't try to set up black men"

White women don't set black men up? And with regard to black women....connoddle with strippers and you kinda gotta expect it.
 

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Its more than just investing money, its vested faith in what his movement. And these false prophets are not just stealing money they are stealing hope and hijacking optimism. I know there is some real solid dudes out there with good plans to hatch, but not these brothas and sistas who come with the typical charades and worn out rhetoric. Its so much gossiping and beefing in the Conscious Community its ridiculous. Umar Johnson himself was beefing with Saa Neter These conscious folks are so divided but one in the same,they need each other to debate and put on a show. Fighting over which non/black society was better , a Moor(a MENA/Arab) or a Hebrew Israelite(a Jew).But its sad cause some want to be supportive but these dudes screw off the chances of moving together as one.

Exactly....The brothers and sisters that are really doing things to help black folks are always ignored. People do not realize that there are many brothers and sisters out there helping black people. They may not speak about consciousness all the time, but they are pushing our brothers and sisters to do better.Also as a Nigerian I always wonder why all of the African American conscious folks always talk about eastern African belief's and religions. Also why do they always use Arabic names or use Arabic practices? The fact of the matter is that African Americans are descendants of Western Africa and Central African countries that are located towards the west.
People will call me a c00n but if Umar continues with the project the same way he is doing things right now it is all going to fail. I wonder how his supporters are going to react.
 

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The Deep State


Conscious Stripper tells her side.

@iLLaV3

1h:12m - 1h:15m of the video above, the caller has decent break down on why people are looking at him with the side eye on this issue.

1h:21m - 1h:35m Woman calls in claiming there is a business plan, which will only be revealed directly to donators. Date is set, and there is movement :ohhh:

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