A show of hands, who is abstaining from voting in this election??

[Dada]

What about all the state and local matters? I wrote an article on Romney and Obama's tax plans, he proposes a standard 20% tax marginal cut across all tax brackets, not just for the wealthy. Unless you meant something else by policies.

I'd just leave the presidential part blank or write in, but definitely wouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

You don't seem to get it. I don't give a shyt about you voting for Obama or not. My issue is you being ignorant and in the dark and not knowing shyt yet still making these strident, cocky, acerbic opinions like your skull isn't a hollow cavity. A post like this and there's plenty more of them http://www.the-coli.com/1581950-post135.html just exemplifies your vast ignorance and pathetic surface-level decontextualized black/white view of things.

As a person who makes an honest effort to comb through objective data and study economics and political theory and history and government (not just liberal blogs), it irks me when I see a buffoon like you making all these ill-informed assertions with an air of assuredness when you don't know shyt and don't even attempt to know shyt. People like you are the reason these politicians including Obama can get away with the shyt they pull because if people informed themselves and weren't idiots, the political center would shift to a place more grounded in sanity, reason, and facts.

If you actually read my posts and listen to me on podcasts, I repeatedly take Obama to task for being a Wall Street sellout and a weak negotiator among other things. I try to be as objective and realistic as possible. It's just that I often have to rebut clowns like saying stupid shyt like Obama "hasn't accomplished shyt" or "is the same thing as Bush" from a position of ignorance and no perspective of reality If you could actually articulate your anti-Obama stance in a reasonable and intelligent way, I'd have no problem with that. But you can't. I wouldn't even have a problem with your dismissive, insulting tone if you actually knew what the fukk you were talking about. The problem is you don't know shyt. You low-information motherfukkers are the number one thing holding this country back.

@ the hyperbole in the bolded. Come on man, just....come on. "Study economics and political theory," really? Is that really something you expect most Americans trying to make their way in this economy to do? You can't honestly spew bullshyt like this and then claim that conservatives are out of touch. I'm familiar enough with the issues of the day, I don't sit around like you and pretend to be a fukking political analyst on the internet. Anybody here who has expressed discontent with Obama and/or stated that they will be exercising their right NOT to vote has been berated by you and called all sorts of names and had their intelligence questioned. Yeah, you're on Type's dikk now for the sake of the current exchange but you've went at his neck just as hard as you're going at mine now so I really can't take you seriously

What did I say in that post that you referenced that was so outrageous? Look, if you have to use google to convince me that Obama has accomplished something significant during his term, chances are those accomplishments weren't significant enough. Again, I don't think Obama has been a BAD PRESIDENT. I just don't think he's lived up the hype, has been extremely disappointing, and not different enough from his peers or predecessors for me to get up and vote for him a second time. You know what, fukk accomplishments, the guy isn't even FIGHTING for anything. I'd respect him more if I thought he was at least doing that, but he's not, at least not for anything that's going to actually bring about the "change" he campaigned for in 2008. It's that simple. The borderline fanaticism of his supporters doesn't help things either....I mentioned I ran into some lady the other day who told me that I should be thankful to Obama because I have a job right now I'm supposed to take garbage like that seriously? You might be content to get up and "rock the vote" for a "weak wall street sellout," (your words) but don't expect me and others to do the same. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

@ the hyperbole in the bolded. Come on man, just....come on. "Study economics and political theory," really? Is that really something you expect most Americans trying to make their way in this economy to do? You can't honestly spew bullshyt like this and then claim that conservatives are out of touch.

What are you talking about hyperbole? Saying people should acquaint themselves with economics and political philosophy is hyperbole? People do not do it, but it's not like most people can't do it. If people can spend hours immersed in reality tv, tech gadgets, and sports, those no reason why people can't study pertinent matters to the world around them.

Let me get this straight, you're saying Obama is a piece of shyt and all these other colorful names you've called him and a horrible President who "hasn't accomplished shyt" in the wake of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression and a level of other party obstruction that is unprecedented in American history, yet asking average citizens to check out a dummies guide to the U. S. Constitution at the library or google economics is laughable, out-of-touch hyperbole?

I'm familiar enough with the issues of the day,

No, you're really not. I don't even mean any offense, but I don't know how to say it politely. You don't know shyt. I've read your posts long enough. I've seen you try to talk about healthcare, presidencies and other shyt. Most of the time, you just come in threads all salty and hurl your dumb "Obamabot/Obama dikkrider/fukk fakkits/liberal this and that" drivel from the sidelines like you did here, but the couple of times you ever try to engage in discussion, you make a fool or yourself.

I don't sit around like you and pretend to be a fukking political analyst on the internet.

All I am is someone who TRIES to learn about these pressing concerns. You are not.

Anybody here who has expressed discontent with Obama and/or stated that they will be exercising their right NOT to vote has been berated by you and called all sorts of names and had their intelligence questioned.

Bullshyt. There are posters here who diss Obama's presidency harshly who I don't "berate" because they actual provide a reason behind it. I ignore your anti-Obama posts 99% of the time.

Right now, you're just an example of a low information citizen who needs to be called out imo. You are the perfect example of an ignorant American citizen who is high on opinion and venom and running on fumes in knowledge and understanding. You should stop. You're hurting the country.

Yeah, you're on Type's dikk now for the sake of the current exchange but you've went at his neck just as hard as you're going at mine now so I really can't take you seriously

Type can be dikk, so can I, so our debates tend to get prickly. But I only mentioned him because he is an example of someone who while I disagree with his voting opinion, understands the issues. You do not...at all...and you prove it every time you try talk about politics

What did I say in that post that you referenced that was so outrageous? Look, if you have to use google to convince me that Obama has accomplished something significant during his term, chances are those accomplishments weren't significant enough. Again, I don't think Obama has been a BAD PRESIDENT.

So now he's not a bad President? You've said he's much worse than a bad President, but I digress.

As far as having to google shyt to convince somebody, I can tell you straight off the top of my head his meaningful accomplishments without googling anything...averting a Great Depression (with help from the Fed of course), passing the stimulus which created or saved over 2 million jobs, keeping people who have never missed a credit card payment from their rates skyrocketing, bringing down the costs of student loan, helping to the economy growing again, saving the auto industry, getting 35 million people insured and bringing down the costs of healthcare (in the future), laying the groundwork for revampling the education system, and energy needs etc. DESPITE unprecedented levels of obstruction from the Republicans and inheriting an economy that was losing 850K jobs per month when he got in office. I can only shudder to think what would've happened if you applied this short-attention span populace political climate to FDR during the Great Depression.

As far as links being provided, uh, that's called providing evidence for a case, dude. If I'm making the case that stimulus created jobs and grew the economy, a link to a CBO report providing the numbers is more thorough than me just saying it.

As far as what was wrong with your post...uh, everything. That post was pure decontextualized, shallow ignorance. I explained why in my response, which you ignored of course. http://www.the-coli.com/1583053-post156.html

So why don't you tell me specifically what Clinton did to make the economy run so well in the 90? I'll wait.

You have to understand that these complex interlocking systems of deindustrialization, shifts in modes of employment, economic cycles, regulation of the banking system, political partisanship, monetary policy by the Fed, congressional obstruction, have consequences that place every President in a different situation, some more advantageous than others.

So it's silly as hell to make this "Clinton good, Obama bad" generalization. They're basically the same fukking person. Presidents often get heaped unfair praise because of the situation they were in (Clinton, Reagan) and catch unfair criticism for the same reason (Carter, Bush I).

I just don't think he's lived up the hype, has been extremely disappointing, and not different enough from his peers or predecessors for me to get up and vote for him a second time. You know what, fukk accomplishments, the guy isn't even FIGHTING for anything. I'd respect him more if I thought he was at least doing that, but he's not, at least not for anything that's going to actually bring about the "change" he campaigned for in 2008. It's that simple.

I actually agree with every word of this except for the not worth voting for part.

The borderline fanaticism of his supporters doesn't help things either....I mentioned I ran into some lady the other day who told me that I should be thankful to Obama because I have a job right now I'm supposed to take garbage like that seriously? You might be content to get up and "rock the vote" for a "weak wall street sellout," (your words) but don't expect me and others to do the same. That's all I'm saying.

I don't expect you to. I only ask you to be informed and have perspective before you speak and try to knock others.

 

[OsO]

Ignorant ass low information citizens who don't know jackshyt but insist on pretending their opinions should be taking seriously like you are doing more damage to this country then the military-industrial complex, the banking system, trade agreements, the Federal Reserve, politicians, the Supreme Court, and big money in politics combined.

so the fed is damaging the united states?

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

so the fed is damaging the united states?

The Fed has definitely damaged the U. S. states, of course.

When did I say that was not the case?

I think you're so hair-trigger sometimes, you're not really trying to hear what people are saying. In that debunking Fed conspiracies and myths thread, that's what my purpose was...debunking myths and conspiracies. Trying to separate the fake from the real so we can get an honest picture. You took it like it was cheerleading for the Fed and saying they do no wrong.

 

[rapbeats]

neither candidate appeals to me. im not poor so Obama's policies don't help me and i don't make over 250k a year so Romney's policies won't benefit me either.

I think im gonna stay home on Nov 6th and just enjoy the ride.

thats fine. its your choice.
but you say neither candidate appeals to you. you do know there's more then just 2 options right?

no Seriously you dont have to choose one of those 2. no matter what the logic is behind doing so. to change something you have to be willing to change and do something different even if you dont think it will do anything TODAY.

Exclusive: Expanding the Debate with Third-Party Candidates Jill Stein, Virgil Goode, Rocky Anderson

Those are pretty much your other options. listen or read that entire debate. the libertarian dude didnt show up. dont know why.