A regular person’s reasoning why DC movies suck compared to Marvel...

[Marc Spector]

nah, it cost a lot of money and of course they had expectations for it. It starred their top tier character Spidey with their other top tier character Iron Man as played by Hollywood's top grossing star Robery Downey Jr. You are fooling yourself if you don't think they felt they would make more.. but a lot of people still went to see it and it still turned a profit just like BvS did so I don't call any of those a failure.

WB changed course several times, they had no plan or they did have a plan and didn't stick with it and that's not after one movie that was after several movies. Regardless the ship must have been righted or audiences must still care because they are still making money.

My first post I said the quality goes up and down. They haven't reached what Nolan did with his trilogy IMO but it'll happen again

Spider Man Homecoming wasn't a record breaking hit (for a myriad of reasons) but what youre being disingenuous about is the reception of SM:Hc compared to BvS. Spider Man: Homecoming was widely recognized as one of the best Spider Man movies and Holland and Keatons performances were critically acclaimed.

BvS literally set the Internet aflame with flame wars on pretty much every major board, for WEEKS after the movie came out.

Not to mention, to do the numbers that BvS and JL did is a failure of epic proportions. In no timeline ever would it ever be feasible that the Guardians of The Galaxy or Black Panther would outgross a Batman or Superman movie...and yet here we are.

 

[Marc Spector]

Nah Zod was killed and he grieved about in it in the following issues when Roger Stern and Dan Jurgens(who likes the Man of Steel and BvS, and was writing Action Comics up till Bendis hijacked the Supes books last year) took over

But thats not telling the whole story tho....

Clark killing Pocket Universe Zod by Kryptonite execution was treated as this emotionally crippling event that future referenced for YEARS after it happened. It was such a traumatic event for Superman that he exiled himself from Earth and gave Batman the Kryptonite Ring in case Superman went bad. And he vowed to never kill again. John Byrnes whole run on Superman was also a deconstruction meant to revise Superman for the modern world, but he had 2 years to tell that story and the ramifications for all these changes were felt for a long time.

Like i said, deconstructions are tricky territory and that wasnt time nor place for it. DC trusted Snyders vision way too much.

 

[robb]

I aint feeling the D.C. flicks. And im not a stan of either nerd comic company.









And yes Sega was better than Nintendo

 

[JMurder]

I agree with you about Snyder
But except for the neck snapping, the movie was true to Superman

Superman’s killed Parademons I think

And if we’re going off the comics, Spiderman also made a deal with the devil and sacrificed his old marriage to save his old ass aunt

Some shyt in the comics isn’t true to the characters

I felt it was against Superman's character for him to bring Zod away from his deserted farm in Smallville to the populated streets of Metropolis. It didn't make the movie bad, but nothing in the movie prepared me for that careless move by him...and literally every time I think about Supes in a fight like that, he finds a way to take the big fights away from populated areas

 

[Screwface Exchange]

You clearly dont have a real grasp of the true characters of Batman and Superman and your views of them are incredibly off.

Check the thread title, it says a reg person's pov. Not a old comic head, or DC Stan who throughly knows the whole story Hut a reg dude who watched old flicks new flicks and smallville.

And this is exactly the problem some of y'all don't get. From a reg person viewpoint we don't give a fukk or recognize or care bout these characters ne more. For you guys who are deeply knowledgeable on their backstories and read da comics n etc is a compltely diff story wit y'all.

There hasn't been a million cpt America major movies redo, or iron man movies n cartoon on TV that were popular b4. So these r fresh characters for many ppl who attach themselves with.

 

[YOGEBEAR09]

Check the thread title, it says a reg person's pov. Not a old comic head, or DC Stan who throughly knows the whole story Hut a reg dude who watched old flicks new flicks and smallville.

And this is exactly the problem some of y'all don't get. From a reg person viewpoint we don't give a fukk or recognize or care bout these characters ne more. For you guys who are deeply knowledgeable on their backstories and read da comics n etc is a compltely diff story wit y'all.

There hasn't been a million cpt America major movies redo, or iron man movies n cartoon on TV that were popular b4. So these r fresh characters for many ppl who attach themselves with.

It's not that people dont care about them because they will always be loved it's that DC hasn't fleshed them out well at all and rushed into everything.

 

[ultraflexed]

The ONLY mistake made as that they rush it..
Wonder woman, superman, and batman should of had solo movies before bvs

It should of went
Wonder women
Man of Steele
Batman

Then BVS

then man of Steele 2
Suicide squad
Aquaman
Flash
Suicide squad

The do the justice league movie

Snyder casted everyone perfect besides the flash

They took the dark tone and colors palettes and a less humorous aspects to comics.

The fights scene's were better in all the DC movies

Batman was more realistic and savage with synder because he was always fighting like his life depends on it


Superman was good, less optimistic and more reserved but he hid his powers until he was 33 an watch his father die to protect his identity by his fathers choice

 

[richaveli83]

DC should do what they've been doing and not try to follow Marvel when it comes to movies. What works for Marvel doesn't mean it will work for DC. I liked Aquaman but his characterization in it and Justice League was so out of character compared to how he is in the comics.

My major concern when it comes to Marvel doing X-Men is the tone of the movies. The X-Men deal with some dark themes like racism, genocide, apartheid, religious bigotry, eugenics, dystopian futures, etc. Even though most of Fox's X-Men films have been hit or miss they did capture the essence of the world of the X-Men.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Which continuity are you talking about. I stopped reading Supes and DC before Infinite Crisis and the Superboy Prime BS. So if its after 2004 I really don't know what you are talking about.

Post Crisis Superman. John Byrne rebooted Superman after Crisis on Infinite Earths.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

Which continuity are you talking about. I stopped reading Supes and DC before Infinite Crisis and the Superboy Prime BS. So if its after 2004 I really don't know what you are talking about.

Post Crisis Superman. John Byrne rebooted Superman after Crisis on Infinite Earths.

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

But thats not telling the whole story tho....

Clark killing Pocket Universe Zod by Kryptonite execution was treated as this emotionally crippling event that future referenced for YEARS after it happened. It was such a traumatic event for Superman that he exiled himself from Earth and gave Batman the Kryptonite Ring in case Superman went bad. And he vowed to never kill again. John Byrnes whole run on Superman was also a deconstruction meant to revise Superman for the modern world, but he had 2 years to tell that story and the ramifications for all these changes were felt for a long time.

Like i said, deconstructions are tricky territory and that wasnt time nor place for it. DC trusted Snyders vision way too much.

Dan spoke on that Zod thing

Superman Legend Dan Jurgens: Man of Steel Handled Zod's Death Better Than The Comics

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Aquaman isnt second tier, didnt he go like 30 years between his own books? Thats like third tier lol

Whatever you want to call it he was nothing more than a joke for YEARS and DC and Wan got him to a billy. That's a huge achievement and fans all love the movie. Just some haters in here I guess but what's new

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Spider Man Homecoming wasn't a record breaking hit (for a myriad of reasons) but what youre being disingenuous about is the reception of SM:Hc compared to BvS. Spider Man: Homecoming was widely recognized as one of the best Spider Man movies and Holland and Keatons performances were critically acclaimed.

BvS literally set the Internet aflame with flame wars on pretty much every major board, for WEEKS after the movie came out.

Not to mention, to do the numbers that BvS and JL did is a failure of epic proportions. In no timeline ever would it ever be feasible that the Guardians of The Galaxy or Black Panther would outgross a Batman or Superman movie...and yet here we are.

uh who cares? If you adjust box office for inflation Batman has several movies that have made an insane amount of money in their day. You can miss me with the critics talk, Spider-Man Into the Spiderverse is the best Spidey movie I've seen

 

[MikelArteta]

Developing

By the time we got the first avengers movie we already got solo iron man, captain America, Thor , hulk movies


Justice league should have waited after aquaman and flash solo film ms

 

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Developing

By the time we got the first avengers movie we already got solo iron man, captain America, Thor , hulk movies


Justice league should have waited after aquaman and flash solo film ms

Naw that wouldn't have help the movie. Once Snyder got booted and Whedon & the executives "fixed" the film it was doomed to fail