A Real Black VS A Mulatto: Y'all Really Can't Tell the Difference?!?!

[Gravity]

: your whole argument has been over applying the one drop rule literally. now you want some wiggle room to get out of how retarded your principles are

nah, go full retard like @IllmaticDelta, that's how stupid both yall sound anyways

I'm getting tired of your little lying trolling act. I haven't said anything about a one drop rule. I've literally told your stupid ads that race is a social construct based on what people look like. Black is a term used to classify people are visibly of African descent. You can either challenge what I'm actually saying or keep lying and I'll just shyt on you with insults from now on. With your little fakkit ass self.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

stop it

Stop what? I just told you and verified that all is needed is African ancestry to be "Black"in the USA? Rousey is part,Afro-Latino/South American. If this girl below wanted to identify as "black", she would be in her full right to do doin the American context and it would be seen as "normal".

 

[IllmaticDelta]

aka, black blood is a damn pollutant, and only requires a drop to quality

These people have more than "A" drop. More like atleast 15-20%

 

[marcuz]

These people have more than "A" drop. More like atleast 15-20%

10-20%?

how does that work in any other context? if i gave you a cup of 20% OJ and 80% cac urine, is it still orange juice?

 

[marcuz]

I'm getting tired of your little lying trolling act. I haven't said anything about a one drop rule. I've literally told your stupid ads that race is a social construct based on what people look like. Black is a term used to classify people are visibly of African descent. You can either challenge what I'm actually saying or keep lying and I'll just shyt on you with insults from now on. With your little fakkit ass self.

"r-r-race is a social construct"

procreate with ya damn neanderthal and be gone stop trying further polute our genetics with their demon blood

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Bliss Broyard is 17.2% African

 

[IllmaticDelta]

 

[SouljaVoy]

Never thought I'd say this, but I'm glad Knuckles Red is banned simply cause of this thread....

I thought this was made by a CAC for a second.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Again,
you're not supposed to take the one drop rule literally. It's never been applied that way.

Exactly. It just meant you had atleast 1/32 African blood or as Ben Jealous puts it "3%.. and Im alot more than that"

@ 6:35




Even with the One Drop, Johnny Depp wouldn't be "black" although it left an imprint on his phenotype (he has no amerindian ancestry)

His father

Depp is mostly of English ancestry, with smaller amounts from elsewhere in Europe. He is descended from a French Huguenot immigrant, Pierre Deppe or Dieppe, who settled in Virginia around 1700,[107] as part of a refugee colony situated above the falls on the James River. He has New England and Colonial New York roots through his ancestor Elizabeth Fones, a Winthrop family member who emigrated to Massachusetts and finally settled in Newtown, near present-day Astoria, New York.[108] He is also of 3/2048 African descent as he descends (twice over) from an African slave whose biracial daughter, Elizabeth Key Grinstead, was the first woman of Sub-Saharan African ancestry in North America to sue for her freedom from slavery and win (in 1655).[109][110] Depp is 20th cousin of Elizabeth II.[111]

Elizabeth Key Grinstead (b. 1630 - d. c. after 1665) was the first woman of African ancestry in the North American colonies to sue for her freedom from slavery and win. Elizabeth Key won her freedom and that of her infant son John Grinstead on July 21, 1656 in the colony of Virginia. She sued based on the fact that her father was an Englishman and that she was a baptized Christian. Based on these two factors, her English attorney and common-law husband William Grinstead argued successfully that she should be freed. The lawsuit in 1655 was one of the earliest "freedom suits" by a person of African ancestry in the English colonies.

In response to Key's suit and other challenges, in 1662 the Virginia House of Burgesses passed a law that the status of children born in the colony would follow the status of the mother, "bond or free", rather than the father, as had been the precedent in English common law and was the case in England. This was the principle of partus sequitur ventrum, also called partus. The legislation hardened the boundaries of slavery by ensuring that all children of women slaves, regardless of paternity, would be kept as slaves for labor unless explicitly freed.

Elizabeth Key Grinstead - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[IllmaticDelta]

10-20%?

how does that work in any other context? if i gave you a cup of 20% OJ and 80% cac urine, is it still orange juice?

the OJ was inclusive and cac urine was exclusive

 

[IllmaticDelta]

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nah, go full retard like @IllmaticDelta, that's how stupid both yall sound anyways

Im just stating the facts/reality...not making up this stuff out of thin air

 

[Retired Account]

Stop what? I just told you and verified that all is needed is African ancestry to be "Black"in the USA? Rousey is part,Afro-Latino/South American. If this girl below wanted to identify as "black", she would be in her full right to do doin the American context and it would be seen as "normal".

It wouldnt be normal
no one follows the one drop rule anymore.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

It wouldnt be normal
no one follows the one drop rule anymore.

They do, it's just not enforced as a "blood" law. It's self imposed now ---->

This is why the One Drop Rule was created in the first place, to keep people like Robin Thicke's son and the guy above from spreading their genes into the "white" community



"Black" in the USA means

"Black or African American. A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as 'Black, African Am.' or provide written entries such as Kenyan, Nigerian, or Haitian."[16]

and to add to that

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And so, why do few if any White Americans display a strongly African appearance (have a high melanin index) despite having detectable African admixture? Because those Americans who “look Black” are assigned involuntarily to the Black endogamous group, whatever their genetic admixture. The scatter diagrams of the two endogamous U.S. groups are not symmetrical because the selection process acts only upon the White group. As revealed in court records, discussed elsewhere, a person of mixed ancestry who “looks European” (like Dr. Shriver or his maternal grandfather) in practice has the option of either adopting a White self-identity, thus joining the White endogamous group or a Black self-identity, thus joining the other group. But a person of mixed ancestry who “looks African” lacks such a choice. U.S. society assigns such a person to membership in the Black endogamous group, like it or not.25


In conclusion, U.S. society has unwittingly applied selection pressure to the color line. The only American families accepted into the White endogamous group have been those whose African admixture just happened not to include the half-dozen alleles for dark skin (or the other physical traits associated with “race”). Since those particular alleles were sifted out of the portion of the White population that originated in biracial families, the relative percentage of the remaining, invisible, African alleles in this population cannot affect skin color. That skin-color does not vary with African genetic admixture among American Whites, despite their measureably recent African admixture, demonstrates and confirms that physical appearance has been an important endogamous group membership criterion throughout U.S. history. It has resulted in genetic selection of the White U.S. population for a European “racial” appearance, regardless of their underlying continent-of-ancestry admixture ratio."

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and followed by "phenotypical one droppers"

‘One-drop rule’ persists

Ho and colleagues presented subjects with computer-generated images of black-white and Asian-white individuals, as well as family trees showing different biracial permutations. They also asked people to report directly whether they perceived biracials to be more minority or white. By using multiple approaches, their work examined both conscious and unconscious perceptions of biracial individuals, presenting the most extensive empirical evidence to date on how they are perceived.

The researchers found, for example, that one-quarter-Asian individuals are consistently considered more white than one-quarter-black individuals, despite the fact that African Americans and European Americans share a substantial degree of genetic heritage.

Using face-morphing technology that presented a series of faces ranging from 5 percent white to 95 percent white, they also found that individuals who were a 50-50 mix of two races, either black-white or Asian-white, were almost never identified by study participants as white. Furthermore, on average, black-white biracials had to be 68 percent white before they were perceived as white; the comparable figure for Asian-white biracials was 63 percent.

“The United States is already a country of ethnic mixtures, but in the near future it will be even more so, and more so than any other country on earth,” says Banaji, Richard Clarke Cabot Professor of Social Ethics at Harvard. “When we see in our data that our own minds are limited in the perception of those who are the products of two different ethnic groups, we recognize how far we have to go in order to have an objectively accurate and fair assessment of people. That’s the challenge for modern minds.”

The team found few differences in how whites and non-whites perceive biracial individuals, with both assigning them with equal frequency to lower-status groups. The researchers are conducting further studies to examine why Americans continue to associate biracials more with their minority parent group.

“The persistence of hypodescent serves to reinforce racial boundaries, rather than moving us toward a race-neutral society,” Ho says.

http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2010/12/‘one-drop-rule’-persists/

 

[Retired Account]

They do, it's just not enforced as a "blood" law. It's self imposed now ---->

This is why the One Drop Rule was created in the first place, to keep people like Robin Thicke's son and the guy above from spreading their genes into the "white" community



"Black" in the USA means

"Black or African American. A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as 'Black, African Am.' or provide written entries such as Kenyan, Nigerian, or Haitian."[16]

and to add to that

"
And so, why do few if any White Americans display a strongly African appearance (have a high melanin index) despite having detectable African admixture? Because those Americans who “look Black” are assigned involuntarily to the Black endogamous group, whatever their genetic admixture. The scatter diagrams of the two endogamous U.S. groups are not symmetrical because the selection process acts only upon the White group. As revealed in court records, discussed elsewhere, a person of mixed ancestry who “looks European” (like Dr. Shriver or his maternal grandfather) in practice has the option of either adopting a White self-identity, thus joining the White endogamous group or a Black self-identity, thus joining the other group. But a person of mixed ancestry who “looks African” lacks such a choice. U.S. society assigns such a person to membership in the Black endogamous group, like it or not.25


In conclusion, U.S. society has unwittingly applied selection pressure to the color line. The only American families accepted into the White endogamous group have been those whose African admixture just happened not to include the half-dozen alleles for dark skin (or the other physical traits associated with “race”). Since those particular alleles were sifted out of the portion of the White population that originated in biracial families, the relative percentage of the remaining, invisible, African alleles in this population cannot affect skin color. That skin-color does not vary with African genetic admixture among American Whites, despite their measureably recent African admixture, demonstrates and confirms that physical appearance has been an important endogamous group membership criterion throughout U.S. history. It has resulted in genetic selection of the White U.S. population for a European “racial” appearance, regardless of their underlying continent-of-ancestry admixture ratio."

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and followed by "phenotypical one droppers"

‘One-drop rule’ persists




http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2010/12/‘one-drop-rule’-persists/

nikka you posted a girl with only one black grandparent then said it that it would be seen as normal for her to claim black
that would be weird amd you know it
That's different than a biracial

 

[Kuwka_Atcha_Ratcha]

It wouldnt be normal
no one follows the one drop rule anymore.

a bunch of people in here claiming mixed people as black because they follow one drop