A question to some about genetics and race

Type Username Here

Not a new member
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
16,368
Reputation
2,385
Daps
32,641
Reppin
humans
The question wasn't if it was true or not, the question was relating to African-Americans who are quick to dismiss anecdotal evidence and statistics that shine a bad light on their race (Especially in terms of education and intelligence) yet claim that genetics makes their race better athletes, musicians, dancers, etc..

There are plenty of people on this site that say these things on a constant basis, I just wish to see them back up their logic.
 

Bud Bundy

A Bundy never cares
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
13,984
Reputation
1,620
Daps
22,442
The question wasn't if it was true or not, the question was relating to African-Americans who are quick to dismiss anecdotal evidence and statistics that shine a bad light on their race (Especially in terms of education and intelligence) yet claim that genetics makes their race better athletes, musicians, dancers, etc..

There are plenty of people on this site that say these things on a constant basis, I just wish to see them back up their logic.

i guess i should step out because I dont think that way.
 

Sinnerman

Veteran
Joined
May 7, 2012
Messages
32,523
Reputation
4,431
Daps
64,660
I agree with this. There hasn't been nearly enough time and separation in the non-African, Black diaspora to encourage this kind of thinking. The idea that slavery was some kind of social darwinist institution is also off-base. Sure, weaker ones died off, like they did everywhere, but slaves in America were a huge investment- masters couldn't afford to have slaves just dying all over the place because of how expensive they were and how critical they were to the plantation economy. They needed them alive. Slaves were rarely worked to death, etc.

Also, the social pressures are a big part of the situation concerning Black athletes in the status quo. It's one of the few things Black people are actually encouraged to pursue, and that has become seriously ingrained in the community to the point where a greater percentage of kids from the Black community see sports as the only viable career path for them. When you combine that with the systemic racism that actively works to slow down or prevent Black representation in other fields, it's going to produce what looks to be a grossly biased overrepresentation, the same way certain Asian immigrant cultures where kids are only expected to be laywers, doctors, or scientists produce overrepresentation in those fields. As Acri noted, the circumstance wasn't like this earlier in the century, but not just because of segregation.
 
Joined
May 16, 2012
Messages
39,602
Reputation
-17,821
Daps
84,257
Reppin
NULL
Going around the forum and the old forum, it became very prevalent the idea that people accept African-Americans (or blacks in general) are genetically superior in terms of athleticism and athletic proficiency, especially in certain sports. Now some of the comments are tongue-in-cheek, but I have a question to the people that really believe that:

Why only accept the statistics that show your race in a positive light in terms of genetics, and ignore others?

I think all should be ignored, but some of you don't. Why?

get the fukk outta here crakkka with this racist sh1t

First of all, the stupid notion of race that you are advancing is false. Not ALL black folks are "superior athletes." Tell me the last time a great sprinter came from South Africa? Or Mozambique? Or how about the great distance runner from Namibia or Sierra Leone?

Africa has the greatest diversity of mankind in the world.

All the great sprinters come from one particular location in Africa (West Africa). With the greatest being located in one small island right now (Jamaica).

All the great distance runners come from only one tribe in Kenya. Its not even the whole country that has great runners just one tribe. The same story in Ethiopia. Ethiopia has over a hundred different ethnic groups yet all the great runners come from just one or two tribes.

This should let you know that it isn't GENETICS but ENVIRONMENT.

The reason all the great distance runners in Kenya come from just one tribe is because that tribe has historically lived in high elevation areas. This has helped them be able to converse oxygen more efficiently than the rest of the Kenyas and in fact the rest of humanity thus making them better long distance runners. Same story in Ethiopia. Its a country filled with mountains and high plains. This has helped some of the few ethnic groups that live on those mountains become great runners.


Now explain to me how you can test intelligence first and foremost to even tell me that black folks ain't as intelligent as anyone else? Second, how all black folk can suddenly be less intelligent than all white folk when in terms of athletics its only certain black folk that are better than everyone else?


This is the problem with you racists. You don't know what your talking about.
 
Joined
May 16, 2012
Messages
39,602
Reputation
-17,821
Daps
84,257
Reppin
NULL
The question wasn't if it was true or not, the question was relating to African-Americans who are quick to dismiss anecdotal evidence and statistics that shine a bad light on their race (Especially in terms of education and intelligence) yet claim that genetics makes their race better athletes, musicians, dancers, etc..

There are plenty of people on this site that say these things on a constant basis, I just wish to see them back up their logic.

That's because there has never been an objective measure of intelligence that hasn't been clouded by cultural bias or the result of unequal opportunity.

You can't say that about athletics. Running is pretty simple. The guy who finishes first is faster. Sports is pretty much the only even playing field we have in the world. Everything else is unequal hence the unequal results.

Once you can find me an objective measure of intelligence that isn't cultural biased and when the individuals are on the same social and economic level, then I can maybe see your argument for black intellectual inferiority.

Until then go suck a dikk fakkit.
 

Type Username Here

Not a new member
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
16,368
Reputation
2,385
Daps
32,641
Reppin
humans
get the fukk outta here crakkka with this racist sh1t

First of all, the stupid notion of race that you are advancing is false. Not ALL black folks are "superior athletes." Tell me the last time a great sprinter came from South Africa? Or Mozambique? Or how about the great distance runner from Namibia or Sierra Leone?

Africa has the greatest diversity of mankind in the world.

All the great sprinters come from one particular location in Africa (West Africa). With the greatest being located in one small island right now (Jamaica).

All the great distance runners come from only one tribe in Kenya. Its not even the whole country that has great runners just one tribe. The same story in Ethiopia. Ethiopia has over a hundred different ethnic groups yet all the great runners come from just one or two trhiibes.

This should let you know that it isn't GENETICS but ENVIRONMENT.

The reason all the great distance runners in Kenya come from just one tribe is because that tribe has historically lived in high elevation areas. This has helped them be able to converse oxygen more efficiently than the rest of the Kenyas and in fact the rest of humanity thus making them better long distance runners. Same story in Ethiopia. Its a country filled with mountains and high plains. This has helped some of the few ethnic groups that live on those mountains become great runners.


Now explain to me how you can test intelligence first and foremost to even tell me that black folks ain't as intelligent as anyone else? Second, how all black folk can suddenly be less intelligent than all white folk when in terms of athletics its only certain black folk that are better than everyone else?


This is the problem with you racists. You don't know what your talking about.

That's because there has never been an objective measure of intelligence that hasn't been clouded by cultural bias or the result of unequal opportunity.

You can't say that about athletics. Running is pretty simple. The guy who finishes first is faster. Sports is pretty much the only even playing field we have in the world. Everything else is unequal hence the unequal results.

Once you can find me an objective measure of intelligence that isn't cultural biased and when the individuals are on the same social and economic level, then I can maybe see your argument for black intellectual inferiority.

Until then go suck a dikk fakkit.

Did you even read what I posted idiot?

I said I don't agree with either conclusion involving race and genetics. I've said it multiple times. I also said that most people don't think that.

Can you read you living abortion of a human?
 

WaveCapsByOscorp™

2021 Grammy Award Winner
Joined
May 2, 2012
Messages
18,969
Reputation
-446
Daps
45,103
Going around the forum and the old forum, it became very prevalent the idea that people accept African-Americans (or blacks in general) are genetically superior in terms of athleticism and athletic proficiency, especially in certain sports. Now some of the comments are tongue-in-cheek, but I have a question to the people that really believe that:

Why only accept the statistics that show your race in a positive light in terms of genetics, and ignore others?

I think all should be ignored, but some of you don't. Why?
really, there is no justification. so asking why do they believe the things that they do is pointless. you're not going to get any reasonable answers...
 

Marvel

Psalm 149:5-9
Joined
May 19, 2012
Messages
8,804
Reputation
820
Daps
15,168
Reppin
House of Yasharahla

Type Username Here

Not a new member
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
16,368
Reputation
2,385
Daps
32,641
Reppin
humans
Top