A map of Brooklyn gangs in 1974

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Do they sound like tha myplayer off 2k18?:mjlol:


Alot of them old school nikkas talked like they parents who were from down south & moved during tha great migration. Some even migrated late and spent their childhood down south.

One ny nikka whose accent was country af was Eddie Murphy. Which confuses tha fukk outta me cuz his older brother sounded like a true blue ny nikka and his family was from tha Caribbean. Where tha hell he get tht shyt from?:ohhh:
When I hear Charlie Murphy talk, he sounds just like a Southern nikka who grew up in NYC during his formative years, which made sense because of a lot of fresh southerners coming into the town and making noise during his formative years, and because he probably had family who were from the south. I never heard "the Murphys'' were caribbean, i could have sworn I heard Charlie Murphy say his family was from down south. I know their Uncle sounds like he would be from the south/nyc, Where did you hear they were from the islands?

Eddie admitted he isn't Jamaican, though:
Eddie Murphy: ‘I heard a rumour that I’m Jamaican!’
“No, I’m not Jamaican,” Murphy said in an exclusive interview with The Voice. “But after I put out Red Light, I heard a rumour that I was Jamaican.”
 
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Why are black people on this thread shocked that African Americans back in the 70s still have a southern accent?

Even today in 2018 you got African americans in nyc that still have a southern twist in their words.

West Indians and Africans on the other hand do not have to that.

That’s one of my best tactics in figuring out which American black in NYC is AA or a child of an immigrant. The accent. M


I do think this current generation of AAs in NYC might be clear of the southern twist in their words tho.

I think a lot of posters forget that most AA NY'ers are descended from southerners. I'd bet there's posters up here who've had family visit from the northeast, especially if they live in Virginia, the Carolinas, or Georgia. Most AAs in NYC who aren't from the south themselves would only be between 1 - 3 generations removed from the south. I was born and raised here, as was my mother, but my father's from South Carolina, and my mother's side of the family's from North Carolina.

I haven't really paid as much attention to the bolded, but I'm pretty sure there's some truth to it. I've been told several times that I sound "southern", mostly by foreigners. A foreign friend of mines told me most of the black New Yorkers she knew were from the Caribbean or of Caribbean descent and mentioned that I didn't really sound like them, but instead sounded kind of southern.
 

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It’s crazy the map literally ends at Flatbush.

When you tell old school New Yorkers you a street nikka from Flatbush they always be like :russ:

Yet Flatbush arguably has the largest gang presence in the entire city in 2018. shyt really changes in a few years
Why would they do that?

Brooklyn always had gangs since the 50's, including white boys!

This link names the gangs for each area in Brooklyn:
New York Greasers, Gangs and Clubs From New York, Boppin Gangs From New York
Flatbush, Brooklyn
DITMAS DUKES: 50s
Billy Di, Charlie and Anthony C, Joey S, Joey R, Carl N. They hung out on Oceon Parkway near Ditmas Ave. They had a bitter rivalry with the Gremlins, which in 1958 caused a guy to be killed during a gang fight.
PARK CIRCLE GREMLINS
FOSTER GENTS: 50s
INSECTS
DEVILS REBELS: 70's Bushwick - 83rd Precinct.
SYNDICATE
FLATBUSH TIGERS: Italian mid 1950s
Richie and his brother Vinnie were the leaders. They hung around Rosie?s Candy Store on Albany and Farragut Rd across from the park, and they spent a lot of evenings in the PS 198 school yard. A Jewish-Italian gang who wore very cool reversible jackets made at Friedman's.
AMBER KINGS AMBER QUEENS
FARRAGUT ROAD BOYS: 1950s
OLLIES:

Some claim they were the most feared gang in East Flatbush. They were known to carried bats and intimidate other gangs.
BENNIES from Avenue D:
Mickey, Bozo, Mau Mau, and Dom. They fought the Ollies and the Insects. Turf was Avenue D and 59th Street.
F.I.D.O: Flatbush International Drinking Association 50s


This is a good read on A gang called the "bishops". It tells how they would go to Flatbush, and terrorize some of the blacks that lived there. shyt is a good read:
Bishops Invade Flatbush
 

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Why are black people on this thread shocked that African Americans back in the 70s still have a southern accent?

Even today in 2018 you got African americans in nyc that still have a southern twist in their words.

West Indians and Africans on the other hand do not have to that.

That’s one of my best tactics in figuring out which American black in NYC is AA or a child of an immigrant. The accent. M

I do think this current generation of AAs in NYC might be clear of the southern twist in their words tho.

This

But I do know young AAs in NYC that sound kinda southern. Plus Philly is only 2 hours away and the AAs there sound pretty Southern
 

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Why would they do that?

Brooklyn always had gangs since the 50's, including white boys!

This link names the gangs for each area in Brooklyn:
New York Greasers, Gangs and Clubs From New York, Boppin Gangs From New York
Flatbush, Brooklyn
DITMAS DUKES: 50s
Billy Di, Charlie and Anthony C, Joey S, Joey R, Carl N. They hung out on Oceon Parkway near Ditmas Ave. They had a bitter rivalry with the Gremlins, which in 1958 caused a guy to be killed during a gang fight.
PARK CIRCLE GREMLINS
FOSTER GENTS: 50s
INSECTS
DEVILS REBELS: 70's Bushwick - 83rd Precinct.
SYNDICATE
FLATBUSH TIGERS: Italian mid 1950s
Richie and his brother Vinnie were the leaders. They hung around Rosie?s Candy Store on Albany and Farragut Rd across from the park, and they spent a lot of evenings in the PS 198 school yard. A Jewish-Italian gang who wore very cool reversible jackets made at Friedman's.
AMBER KINGS AMBER QUEENS
FARRAGUT ROAD BOYS: 1950s
OLLIES:

Some claim they were the most feared gang in East Flatbush. They were known to carried bats and intimidate other gangs.
BENNIES from Avenue D:
Mickey, Bozo, Mau Mau, and Dom. They fought the Ollies and the Insects. Turf was Avenue D and 59th Street.
F.I.D.O: Flatbush International Drinking Association 50s


This is a good read on A gang called the "bishops". It tells how they would go to Flatbush, and terrorize some of the blacks that lived there. shyt is a good read:
Bishops Invade Flatbush
You misunderstand.

I mean that old school New Yorkers from the 70s/80s era don’t see Flatbush or nikkas from Flatbush tuff like that. Before Jimmy Henchman and Haitian Jack type nikkas in the late 80s, Flatbush didn’t have nobody name that rung out that was Black.

Spots like Fort Greene got that jacket for being thorough before Flatbush.

And frankly, Flatbush wasn’t nearly as violent as them spots back then.
 

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You misunderstand.

I mean that old school New Yorkers from the 70s/80s era don’t see Flatbush or nikkas from Flatbush tuff like that. Before Jimmy Henchman and Haitian Jack type nikkas in the late 80s, Flatbush didn’t have nobody name that rung out that was Black.

Spots like Fort Greene got that jacket for being thorough before Flatbush.

And frankly, Flatbush wasn’t nearly as violent as them spots back then.
Before the mid 70's, Flatbush barely had much black people in the first place, so that's why it wasn't talked about much compared to the other areas that were full of black people like bed-stuy, and other areas we know about. Also, those blacks weren't living in as much poverty as the others as well, so that is another reason, but by the time white flight hit in the mid 70's/early 80's, and Jamaicans that weren't of the "intellectual" background started coming here, violence went up since that is when drugs became the new money maker for anyone to get into. Haitian Jack, and Jimmy Henchman got their names in the early 80's, not the late 80's. Haitian Jack said 1977 is when he got put on.

And Vanderveer has always been no joke since the early 80's, the same with other areas in east flatbush that are more connected to poverty. East Flatbush has always had a high crime rate in the whole city since the early 80's, maybe even before that, but it got worse when drugs became the game of choice. There is a reason why the foster ave section of the veer got named "front page", it aint the looks.
 

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A lot of these are biker gangs and low key some of them still active:mjpls:

And you know how they get down:hubie:
 
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He gots to die. He got......I gots to take him off of here. That's right. I gotta take him off of here. Because there's only one, and that's me, ya understand? For all of that fightin', ya understand? The sucker think he good. The sucker think he can whoop me. And I KNOW he can't whoop me. Hey, boy, the nikka whole style is chump, yaunderstand? When it comes to me, yaunderstand? Just let me get mines first. Then after I get mines, y'all can do what y'all wanna do!

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Only about a 5th of black New Yorkers are foreign-born Caribbean. Maybe it's slightly more if you count Africans.
 

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He gots to die. He got......I gots to take him off of here. That's right. I gotta take him off of here. Because there's only one, and that's me, ya understand? For all of that fightin', ya understand? The sucker think he good. The sucker think he can whoop me. And I KNOW he can't whoop me. Hey, boy, the nikka whole style is chump, yaunderstand? When it comes to me, yaunderstand? Just let me get mines first. Then after I get mines, y'all can do what y'all wanna do!

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