A Dollar Only Stays In The Black Community For 6 Hours

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The data appears to have first been used in a book by author Brooke Stephens, a financial planner. The book, “Talking Dollars and Making Sense: A Wealth Building Guide for African-Americans,” was written in 1996 and cites the six-hour figure on page 18 of the book.

There is no reference to the original source of the data or the study. Stephens attributes the data to a “John Wray,” who is described as an “economic development specialist” in Washington. There is no other mention of Wray or the study in the book.

TruthBeTold.news reached out to Stephens, who lives in Brooklyn, N.Y., for more information about Wray and the study.

In an interview, Stephens said Wray and a co-author, Lee Green, did the study over a six-month period in 1992, possibly through a nonprofit organization that might no longer exist. She did not remember the name of the report and could not provide any information about Wray or Green, beyond saying that Wray might have taught at Howard University in 1993. The human resource office at Howard said it could not find a reference to a Jim or John Wray. In addition, TruthBeTold.news was unable to locate Lee Green or any studies co-authored by him.

There was no media coverage of the study that can be found in the LexisNexis research database, and the only reference to the study appears to be in Stephens’ book.

TruthBeTold also reached out to Maggie Anderson to see if she remembered the name of the study or could provide any information about Wray.

“I know Brooke Stephens. I know about the statistic,” Anderson said. “I did run into her phenomenal research and the study about the economic lifespan of a dollar in different ethnic groups.”

Anderson attributes the six-hour figure in “Our Black Year” to Brooke Stephens’ book. “I published her findings in my book, ‘Our Black Year,’ and I refer to it whenever I speak and interview. I have been promoting that six-hour statistic quite heavily over the past six years.”

She continues to say how it is the foundation of her work and research commissioned for her year-long Empowerment Experiment through Steven Rogers, a professor at the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University.

“Our Kellogg study proved that less than 3 percent of our $1 trillion in buying power makes it back to our community via our spending with our businesses and the companies that engage our businesses,” she said.

Anderson said the study also found “that if the middle-class black consumers were to spend a little more — 7 percent more, just 10 percent of their spending — with black firms and the mainstream firms that engage them, we can create almost 1 million jobs.” She also includes the six-hour figure and the Kellogg findings in an essay in the National Urban League’s 2014 State of Black America report.

“Brooke Stephens’ statistic about the six hours shows why we need to do more to support our businesses and reverse the exploitation of our consumers and the socio-economic crises our neighborhoods endure,” Anderson said.

TruthBeTold.news also reached out to other black economic development advocates who have cited the figure and while many of them had heard of the numbers, not one had actually seen the study that produced them.

“I’ve been trying to kill this thing for years,” said Ken Smikle, president of Target Market News, a Chicago-based research firm that tracks black spending patterns. “It’s just not true.”

Smikle, who has produced an annual report called The Buying Power of Black America for nearly two decades, disputes the notion that the circulation of money can be tracked in a community.

“There is no scientific way to do that,” Smikle said. “I mean, how would you do it?”


Economists contacted by TruthBeTold.news to review the figures agree.

“It’s what I consider an urban myth,” said William Spriggs, a former labor department official in the Obama Administration, who is now chief economist at the AFL-CIO union. Spriggs also teaches economics at Howard University.

Spriggs said a red flag for him was the mention of dollars circulating in the Jewish community for 19 days.


“What makes me suspicious is that it has economic data based on religion when the federal government doesn’t collect any information by religion,” Spriggs said. “Where would you get that from?”

“When you say Asian communities you’re talking about a very diverse population that includes Indians, Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and they are all different and not a monolithic community. It would be a mistake to try to include all of these different people under one umbrella to talk about spending in communities,” he said.

He added: “And even if you surveyed customers about their spending with business, how would you know the religion of the person who owned the business? If I shop at Macy’s, I don’t know the religion of the person who owns it.”

Justin Wolfers, an economics professor at the University of Michigan, cited other problems with the figures used by Stephens and others.

First, there is no clear definition of community. “Are we talking about specific neighborhoods or as a whole?” Wolfers asked.

Secondly, he points out, like Spriggs, that the federal government does not collect economic information by religion nor does it collect hourly economic activity.

“It seems highly improbable that you could get this data the way it’s described,” Wolfers said. “The inclusion of religion data alone makes me question the figures.”


 

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The claim that a dollar circulates in the black community for only six hours cannot be substantiated.

The federal government does not produce data that would allow such a comparison.


In addition, economists contacted by TruthBeTold.news said some of the data cited, such as information about dollars circulating in the Jewish community, is questionable because the federal government does not collect information by religion. And researchers would be unable to get the information accurately from a survey of consumers.

The earliest source of the statistic appears to be a book that is nearly 20 years old. The book also never mentions the name of the study nor provides any information about the author.

Economic experts agree that blacks may spend little of their estimated $1.1 trillion in buying power with black business. And they agree that efforts like Anderson’s to patronize those businesses are laudable goals. But they add that proponents should stop using the six-hour figure because, while it is shocking, it cannot be verified.

“I understand where people who use this figure are coming from and I don’t want to downplay the issue, but you don’t solve the problem by using questionable data,” said Spriggs, the Howard economist.
 

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I appreciate Maggie Anderson's book and what she was trying to show but she has greatly damaged Black America with this six hours bullshyt.

The way she frames "spending power" along with this six hour myth has people believing we have trillions in wealth that we are refusing to spend with black businesses. That reinforces negative stereotypes about Black folks spending habits. shyt that scholars like Prof Darity, Jared Ball and Mehrsa Baradaran have been working hard to debunk.
 

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NO THE fukk IT DOESN'T!!

Stop repeating this debunked bullshyt!!!

I know motherfukkers won't read the article if I just post the link.


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Does A Dollar Spent In The Black Community Really Stay There For Only Six Hours?

Does a Dollar Spent in the Black Community Really Stay There for Only Six Hours?

These people don't even live in a predominantly black community, so its imperative for them to site inaccurate data..

The major problem is that blacks don't run a majority of the businesses in our communities.. We spend money within the black community. The problem is the merchants don't look like us..
 

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Right! While this works for other races, I don't feel it's feasible for us. Businesses need paying customers, the race of that customer doesn't matter to me. I feel we'd be better off using our dollars to save and invest, so we can limit some of the racial barriers, like discriminatory loan practices, that keep us from starting, building and maintaining businesses. If I were a business owner, I'd strive for 95% of customer money to be from white or other races of people with 100% of the staff being black. :manny:
the coli said that Black people can't save money in the thread about Asian people saving 10k and pulling the amounts together to open businesses. Apparently 10k is an impossible sum of money. But people here have cars n stuff :dead:
 
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It’s hard to find black businesses. I actively seek out blCk doctors dentists real estate agents mechanics everything possible and it’s HARD! So many black businesses don’t spend any money advertising. Others hide the fact they are black owned out of fear.

Too many black restaurants and beauty salons. Terrible businesses to get into btw.

we need more manufacturers, builders, grocers.
 

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Truth Be Told

The claim that a dollar circulates in the black community for only six hours cannot be substantiated.

The federal government does not produce data that would allow such a comparison.


In addition, economists contacted by TruthBeTold.news said some of the data cited, such as information about dollars circulating in the Jewish community, is questionable because the federal government does not collect information by religion. And researchers would be unable to get the information accurately from a survey of consumers.

The earliest source of the statistic appears to be a book that is nearly 20 years old. The book also never mentions the name of the study nor provides any information about the author.

Economic experts agree that blacks may spend little of their estimated $1.1 trillion in buying power with black business. And they agree that efforts like Anderson’s to patronize those businesses are laudable goals. But they add that proponents should stop using the six-hour figure because, while it is shocking, it cannot be verified.

“I understand where people who use this figure are coming from and I don’t want to downplay the issue, but you don’t solve the problem by using questionable data,” said Spriggs, the Howard economist.
Not reading any of that shyt you posted...buy black brehs. Spend your money with black folk first if you can is the bottom line.
 

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It’s hard to find black businesses. I actively seek out blCk doctors dentists real estate agents mechanics everything possible and it’s HARD! So many black businesses don’t spend any money advertising. Others hide the fact they are black owned out of fear.

Too many black restaurants and beauty salons. Terrible businesses to get into btw.

we need more manufacturers, builders, grocers.
I agree. I see a lot of sistas are on social media selling black beauty products...hopefully they own and manufacture those products. Whenever I see black folk go on Shark Tank I look into their business and see if it's someway I can support it if I purchase those types of products.
 

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the coli said that Black people can't save money in the thread about Asian people saving 10k and pulling the amounts together to open businesses. Apparently 10k is an impossible sum of money. But people here have cars n stuff :dead:

It's sad how small the scope of money is to some people, but will drop $1000 in the mall, over 20 times in ONE year with no problem. That's why I like to pay in cash; you learn the true scope of how much something is. Breaking things down into payments is the easiest way to get overwhelmed with debt. Then the shyt they let you make payments on, is ridiculous. The shyt was $25, why are you making 5 payments of $5 :russ: TF!
 
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A lot of black businesses hide the fact they are black owned, because they need white customers.
Any examples of this? I can't think of any here in the Bay Area. It doesn't have to be the theme of the business but to purposely conceal it would be weird to me.
 

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Not reading any of that shyt you posted...buy black brehs. Spend your money with black folk first if you can is the bottom line.

Read the article so you can stop spreading bullshyt.

Of course buy black but not buying black is not the reason black folks have so little wealth right now.
 

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Read the article so you can stop spreading bullshyt.

Of course buy black but not buying black is not the reason black folks have so little wealth right now.
Not about to go back and forth with you on this. Simple question, why did the Greenwood district in Tulsa, Oklahoma aka Black Wallstreet thrive?
 
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