A Blown Knee & Flat Tires-Another NY Pothole Year: 17-18 Knicks Season Thread

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I was a fan of the baker but Hornacek doing too much, let some other youngster get some minutes. Baker’s ceiling ain’t that high whereas Dotson and Willy is higher imo. KP also acknowledged that he’s gassed, they need to figure out why.
I told yall before the season started that kp burns out every december
 

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shyt is annoying man...it's barely January, and he's looked gassed for weeks. i get that he's only 22, but fukk...shouldn't he not already be gassed because he's 22?

get him some of that Miami HGH !!
He his also 7'3:jbhmm:He should ease up on the international play though as it's becoming consistent.
 

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It's bizarre. Speaking of international competition, I think the Latvian system got KP more looks closer to the basket and just in more diverse spaces on the floor. We were supposed to implement some of it ourselves and I rarely if ever notice it. Watching the Wiz guards set screens that confused Kanter and our bigs in general reminded me about it. Our system makes it easy to settle on jumpers with deep isolations whereas Latvia was able to mix things up a bit and get KP some easy baskets...and their guards weren't very good on most nights.
 

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@Mr. Jack Napier that heel turn on KP is not too far away
I was actually thinking this to myself.

The young man is 22 years old w/ no consistent offensive guard to pass to since Timmy went down and brehs are killing two birds w/ one stone - shytting on both Melo & KP at the same time. Wow.

 

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I was actually thinking this to myself.

The young man is 22 years old w/ no consistent offensive guard to pass to since Timmy went down and brehs are killing two birds w/ one stone - shytting on both Melo & KP at the same time. Wow.



If I were gonna rank the variables, I'd go
1. Fatigue...this is a yearly occurrence and Berman's got him admitting to being tired in a new article but since he uses provocative click-bait type frames I won't help him out with links.

2a. Defenses adjusting to him. Blindside doubles are a problem for him and while he's a willing passer when he sees the double; he's still not seeing the doubles fast enough to always make a pass let alone make the best pass available.
2b. THJ is out, which makes it easier to double him and limits his kickout options. They're leaving Lance wide open (I have references to it in a handful of recent recaps including the Christmas game for an example). So now they can double him more easily which is his weakness and he can't punish them because the ball ends up in Lance's hands who just won't make 'em pay consistently enough.

3a. Coaching...KP and Frank are still posting a positive net rating but not playing together enough unless Frank plays mistake-free ball for his 10 second half minutes, that way he sticks around for when KP checks back in during the fourth.
3b. The system, an extension of the coaching. It sets up elbow ISO's that are easy to double off of as one of the key plays for KP. He's rarely getting the ball in motion because Kanter is our main screen guy. Combine that with KP's fatigue and he's not gonna attack off the dribble like he did early when his FTA's were up. Now he's settling and asking for foul calls on jumpers which rarely works out.

4. PG play...you take those factors and then throw in that none of our PG's are consistently breaking down the defense right now, you've got KP rarely getting easy looks. Unless he's got the hot hand, he's taking challenging jumpers trying to find that hot streak. Would more Frank/KP improve that? Not sure, Frank hasn't been great on drives. But I think that Frank pushes the pace a bit more and that might get KP into position before the defense is ready to time their doubles; at worst it's worth a try since we'll get more stops and fast breaks at minimum.
 

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Some in Knicks organization want to call up Trey Burke

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For the Knicks, the chances of losing Burke increases if he's not called up before the G League Showcase, which starts Jan. 10 in Toronto. It is the league's premier scouting event. Burke, a former lottery pick and teammate of Tim Hardaway Jr. at Michigan, can be scooped by any NBA team.

New York's current starting point guard, Jarrett Jack, is the only Knick on a non-guaranteed deal. His contract will become guaranteed if he's not cut by Jan. 7 because it takes a full 48 hours to clear waivers (the guarantee date is technically Jan. 10).

Among the other 14 players on the roster, point guard Ramon Sessions would be the most likely waiver-wire candidate given his small contract and lack of playing time.

However, the Knicks would prefer to make a trade to free up a roster spot. They already waived a player on a guaranteed deal (Mindaugas Kuzminskas) to make room for the return of Joakim Noah following a PED suspension.

The Knicks have reportedly shopped backup center Kyle O'Quinn.

The Knicks (17-19) have lost six of their last seven games while averaging (ineffectively) 98.5 points per game. Jack and backup point guard Frank Ntilikina have struggled to break down defenses with dribble penetration, hampering the offense.

Call Burke up, cut Sessions and bench Jack. Burke as a back-up, Frank as a starter and whether it works or not at least you're giving young guys with upside minutes to work on their game. Since it's an assumed minimum deal, I'd push for a team option with Burke's contract too. KOQ on the block is interesting too but clearing some of the logjam at C to make a logjam at PG is scary with Hornacek.
 

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Damn, we can’t even mention KP getting gassed, that he may not be a consistent #1 option, so we need to figure out why he’s gassed without saying we about turn on him?:mjlol:

This is the reason I want to tank; get one more lottery pick, dude could be another star to help KP in the long run and build from there. This season was never gonna go anywhere; we ain’t winning shot, we getting bounced in the playoffs and we not even letting the younger players build experience. We talking winning culture but we not even playing defense consistently, we got Kurt fukking Rambis as our defense coach and dude always looking like he couldn’t care less, and few vets that ain’t gonna be here in a few years.
 
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