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I love how every away game, they cut to a section of salty ass Knicks fans who get one or two chances a year and have to watch this team's road atrocities.
A Blown Knee & Flat Tires-Another NY Pothole Year: 17-18 Knicks Season Thread
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Oh sweet, he found ONE MINUTE for Dotson and Willy...I'm so grateful.
Miles Davis
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Frank, Willy and Dotson get 1 min
Ironman
#Knickstape
Half our starting line-up plays in a blowout loss with a minute left
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Half out starting line-up plays in a blowout loss with a minute left
On the second night of a back to back, wtf is this guy doing?
ProlificLurker
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Here comes the answer...This dude Hornacek brought Jack back in smh.
I completely forgot about Herns he'd actually be doing work tonight on the inside against Gortat AyoSomeone explain what the fukk is Hornacecks plan??
KP, Timmy, Frank, and the upcoming lotto pick we'll be getting this summer is our core group. Toss in Kanter or Herns (unlikely Knicks will keep both and its looking more and more likely that Kanter is the one they'll retain, hope they dont overpay) to that mix.
You gotta start to wonder, when the Knicks become good again (and they will be good again brehs, hopefully sooner than later, keep the faith
) will coach Hornacek still be around? One thing is painfully obvious he does a shyt job at developing young players, with our core group being what it is, whats the point of having Jeff as the head coach of this squad? Seems to be very mismatched, to say the least.I'm not advocating firing him midseason, unless they put together a long string of these lackadaisical effort performance games as they did tonight, but at season's end Jeff's gotta
, and take Rambis with him on the way out 
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
Breh's need to make those trades for picks/youth and move our better pieces to teams that could use them.
Stop fronting, the talent disparity is too much.
Stop fronting, the talent disparity is too much.
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Hornacek should be fired after this season. He isn't the man for this job, it's proven time and time again.KP, Timmy, Frank, and the upcoming lotto pick we'll be getting this summer is our core group. Toss in Kanter or Herns (unlikely Knicks will keep both and its looking more and more likely that Kanter is the one they'll retain, hope they dont overpay) to that mix.
You gotta start to wonder, when the Knicks become good again (and they will be good again brehs, hopefully sooner than later, keep the faith
I'm not advocating firing him midseason, unless they put together a long string of these lackadaisical effort performance games as they did tonight, but at season's end Jeff's gotta
The Knicks need to look into hiring David Fizdale.
Take that for data.
BushidoBrown
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a true new yorkerThis dude is endless fukkery
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I'm not exactly sure what to say about an effort as ugly this one. The team played some of its worst defense of the entire season tonight. The bigs did well scoring in the first half, but the guards got away from feeding them in the second half. That meant there was no keeping up pace with the Wiz, who I will repeat, faced virtually no resistance regardless of how they felt like scoring. Our would be star is struggling mightily right now; our young guys aren't getting bigger opportunities; and honestly it feels like the wheels are coming off at this point. The team has some soul searching to do. If they want to recapture the early season magic, they'll need sustained efforts on the road and honestly...I don't see that happening with the way these guys have been performing. The Pelicans performance just seems like an outlier.
Jack: None of the starters are getting props for this trash. Jack was the worst of the bunch. 10 pts, 4 asts, 2 boards on 5/11 in 28 minutes. That doesn't look awful but he had 4 TO's and got absolutely torched on defense. The Wiz would run a play where Gortat screened the Center and John Wall would have a one on one with Jack. Wall literally got to the basket completely untouched like Jack wasn't there each time. Offensively his scoring came at the expense of ball movement. He was a detriment all night. Seriously, just start Frank and call up Burke to try backing him up. I don't think he's any kind of answer but he's worth a damned shot over Jack and Sessions.
Lance: I'm just not sure why the guy is starting to only play 14 minutes. 3 pts, 1 ast and 1 board in that time for Lance. As evidenced by his statline, Lance didn't do much of anything. The end.
Lee: Bradley Beal torched him and he didn't do nearly enough to try and pressure Beal on the other end. 8 pts, 3 asts, 2 stls in 28 minutes for Lee. It wouldn't be a bad line because he shot 50% from the field and hit both his three's, but the way Beal beat him on the other end makes this a particularly disappointing effort.
KP: 16 pts, 6 boards, 1 ast, 2 blocks in 36 minutes. 5/13 from the field, 1/4 from three and 3 TO's in that span. Your star player just can't put those pedestrian, inefficient numbers up and expect to win. Something's off with KP. It could be mental, could be fatigue, could be injury or just a rut...but something's off and this team doesn't stand a chance until he gets out of it. The Pelicans win was the one game he played well, no coincidence that everybody looked worlds better in that one. First half KP was solid and they were in it. Second half KP was invisible and they got smoked. Granted, the defense could have picked him up but not with the units Hornacek leaves out there for a majority of the game. It's up to KP to overcome his coach at this point, not be saved by him.
Kanter: He played well on offense in the first half but defensively he got cooked. The Wizards made him run through a decent amount of screens and he struggled with it all night. 12 pts, 4 boards and foul trouble for Kanter over 18 minutes. Honestly, I think this was one of his weakest defensive games in recent history and the foul trouble kept him from making up for that on the scoreboard or glass.
Beas: In the absence of KP's A game, Beasley has kinda stepped up his production. 20 pts, 9 boards, 3 asts, 2 blks, 2 stls over a 25 minute stanza. Beas was unstoppable again. He made some really nice passes not just on those 3 assists. Defensively he actually looked motivated, especially picking up John Wall on a switch at one point. He played the most inspired ball on the team.
Frank: Got in the lane a bit more, mixed results on the trips inside but still a promising sign. The most fun I had watching tonight was when Frank locked in on Wall. He poked the ball loose and made Wall have some tough possessions which was just great to see. As a matter of fact, Wall gave up the rock at that point; Beal went to work on Ron Baker to get some momentum back. That was AWESOME. The rest of the game, well, he didn't do too much. He seemed more content to let the ball run through Beasley and periodically KOQ or KP later in the game...and apparently defense is less important these days because that meant it was time for Jarrett Jack to return and play until a minute left on the clock. 7 pts, 1 ast, 1 board, 1 stl (should have been 2) and 1 TO for Frank over 20 minutes. At this point in the season, with Jack playing such awful defense consistently, Frank needs to get over 25 minutes any night that he's healthy.
Doug: 3/8 for 10 points and 3 boards in 25 minutes out of Doug. He still hasn't found his shooting touch and the team could really use an outburst. He hasn't been getting the boards and assists to make up for poor shooting. Defensively, he and Beasley seem to have a miscommunication or two a game (I got deja vu typing this) but he's mostly pretty average there. It wasn't an awful outting but it was average in every way.
KOQ: Another spirited performer out of the bunch. 13 pts, 10 boards, 2 asts, a steal and a block over 24 minutes for KOQ. He was also 6/10 from the field and played pretty good defense compared to the rest of the team...not really saying much but still. Kylo's been trending up lately and with increased minutes he continued to produce at a high rate. He should get some more time.
Baker: Joakim Noah's free throw form, Shawn Marion shooting, Reggie Miller, and now add Ron Baker driving for a lay-up to my NBA all-time ugly list. Frank probably plays more tentative as a direct result of how ugly a Baker drive looks. He did have some nice dishes though. 2/5 for 4 pts, 3 asts and 1 stl in 19 minutes. Having to guard Beal was too much of an ask but Baker turned in a good effort on defense as well. He wasn't all that bad...those drives though!
Willy and Dotson: These two got in the game with 1:38 seconds on the clock. I'm not sure there's any benefit to that, but at least Dotson took a jumper I guess.
Hornacek: Full Pennywise status tonight from Hornacek, dude seems to put the kids in tough situations for no damned reason. His aversion to changing a starting unit that has just looked awful and momentum killing for a while now is brutal. We're basically stuck in purgatory watching the Knicks amble through half court sets until Tim Hardaway is healthy enough to give our starting line-up somebody that can sprint. The third quarter collapse felt endless which is usually a good time for a time out, a substitution, a technical...something. He also played Lee, Jack and KP extensive minutes in a blowout on the second night of a back to back. Tonight was the kind of night that leaves you contemplating how awkward it would be to fire Hornacek and have to tell Rambis there's no way in hell he's getting another interim head coaching shot mid-season because if Scott Perry had the grapes to do it all; that'd buy a couple seasons of praise from me...maybe it's the weather.
Jack: None of the starters are getting props for this trash. Jack was the worst of the bunch. 10 pts, 4 asts, 2 boards on 5/11 in 28 minutes. That doesn't look awful but he had 4 TO's and got absolutely torched on defense. The Wiz would run a play where Gortat screened the Center and John Wall would have a one on one with Jack. Wall literally got to the basket completely untouched like Jack wasn't there each time. Offensively his scoring came at the expense of ball movement. He was a detriment all night. Seriously, just start Frank and call up Burke to try backing him up. I don't think he's any kind of answer but he's worth a damned shot over Jack and Sessions.
Lance: I'm just not sure why the guy is starting to only play 14 minutes. 3 pts, 1 ast and 1 board in that time for Lance. As evidenced by his statline, Lance didn't do much of anything. The end.
Lee: Bradley Beal torched him and he didn't do nearly enough to try and pressure Beal on the other end. 8 pts, 3 asts, 2 stls in 28 minutes for Lee. It wouldn't be a bad line because he shot 50% from the field and hit both his three's, but the way Beal beat him on the other end makes this a particularly disappointing effort.
KP: 16 pts, 6 boards, 1 ast, 2 blocks in 36 minutes. 5/13 from the field, 1/4 from three and 3 TO's in that span. Your star player just can't put those pedestrian, inefficient numbers up and expect to win. Something's off with KP. It could be mental, could be fatigue, could be injury or just a rut...but something's off and this team doesn't stand a chance until he gets out of it. The Pelicans win was the one game he played well, no coincidence that everybody looked worlds better in that one. First half KP was solid and they were in it. Second half KP was invisible and they got smoked. Granted, the defense could have picked him up but not with the units Hornacek leaves out there for a majority of the game. It's up to KP to overcome his coach at this point, not be saved by him.
Kanter: He played well on offense in the first half but defensively he got cooked. The Wizards made him run through a decent amount of screens and he struggled with it all night. 12 pts, 4 boards and foul trouble for Kanter over 18 minutes. Honestly, I think this was one of his weakest defensive games in recent history and the foul trouble kept him from making up for that on the scoreboard or glass.
Beas: In the absence of KP's A game, Beasley has kinda stepped up his production. 20 pts, 9 boards, 3 asts, 2 blks, 2 stls over a 25 minute stanza. Beas was unstoppable again. He made some really nice passes not just on those 3 assists. Defensively he actually looked motivated, especially picking up John Wall on a switch at one point. He played the most inspired ball on the team.
Frank: Got in the lane a bit more, mixed results on the trips inside but still a promising sign. The most fun I had watching tonight was when Frank locked in on Wall. He poked the ball loose and made Wall have some tough possessions which was just great to see. As a matter of fact, Wall gave up the rock at that point; Beal went to work on Ron Baker to get some momentum back. That was AWESOME. The rest of the game, well, he didn't do too much. He seemed more content to let the ball run through Beasley and periodically KOQ or KP later in the game...and apparently defense is less important these days because that meant it was time for Jarrett Jack to return and play until a minute left on the clock. 7 pts, 1 ast, 1 board, 1 stl (should have been 2) and 1 TO for Frank over 20 minutes. At this point in the season, with Jack playing such awful defense consistently, Frank needs to get over 25 minutes any night that he's healthy.
Doug: 3/8 for 10 points and 3 boards in 25 minutes out of Doug. He still hasn't found his shooting touch and the team could really use an outburst. He hasn't been getting the boards and assists to make up for poor shooting. Defensively, he and Beasley seem to have a miscommunication or two a game (I got deja vu typing this) but he's mostly pretty average there. It wasn't an awful outting but it was average in every way.
KOQ: Another spirited performer out of the bunch. 13 pts, 10 boards, 2 asts, a steal and a block over 24 minutes for KOQ. He was also 6/10 from the field and played pretty good defense compared to the rest of the team...not really saying much but still. Kylo's been trending up lately and with increased minutes he continued to produce at a high rate. He should get some more time.
Baker: Joakim Noah's free throw form, Shawn Marion shooting, Reggie Miller, and now add Ron Baker driving for a lay-up to my NBA all-time ugly list. Frank probably plays more tentative as a direct result of how ugly a Baker drive looks. He did have some nice dishes though. 2/5 for 4 pts, 3 asts and 1 stl in 19 minutes. Having to guard Beal was too much of an ask but Baker turned in a good effort on defense as well. He wasn't all that bad...those drives though!
Willy and Dotson: These two got in the game with 1:38 seconds on the clock. I'm not sure there's any benefit to that, but at least Dotson took a jumper I guess.
Hornacek: Full Pennywise status tonight from Hornacek, dude seems to put the kids in tough situations for no damned reason. His aversion to changing a starting unit that has just looked awful and momentum killing for a while now is brutal. We're basically stuck in purgatory watching the Knicks amble through half court sets until Tim Hardaway is healthy enough to give our starting line-up somebody that can sprint. The third quarter collapse felt endless which is usually a good time for a time out, a substitution, a technical...something. He also played Lee, Jack and KP extensive minutes in a blowout on the second night of a back to back. Tonight was the kind of night that leaves you contemplating how awkward it would be to fire Hornacek and have to tell Rambis there's no way in hell he's getting another interim head coaching shot mid-season because if Scott Perry had the grapes to do it all; that'd buy a couple seasons of praise from me...maybe it's the weather.
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
The only reason I could see not to play Willy and Dotson is to try and get wins off the backs of the veterans.....
Or to drive up the value of KOQ, Lee, and all the other vets while stymied the rooks value so you don't have teams demanding them in any trades.....
I wish it was the latter
But we all know it's the former
Or even worse our rooks just suck
Or to drive up the value of KOQ, Lee, and all the other vets while stymied the rooks value so you don't have teams demanding them in any trades.....
I wish it was the latter
But we all know it's the former
Or even worse our rooks just suck
Get the tank started this shytty team ain’t going nowhere this season. KP need an early vacay he seems depleted in January . This Fekket hornacek is allergic to play the youngins together and when he does he pulls frank and plays Ron baker like no tomorrow 
Ain’t watching a game till I feel like it. shyt ain’t entertaining
Ain’t watching a game till I feel like it. shyt ain’t entertaining
