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A Blown Knee & Flat Tires-Another NY Pothole Year: 17-18 Knicks Season Thread
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GetInTheTruck
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Frank can penetrate he just don't want to, you can see him thinking about it. He needs to dead that.
Also, even though he don't score, he needs to start. He helps set the tone defensively. It's like not like they'd lose scoring by moving Jack to the bench.
Something was up with KP's shot last night, might be the elbow. Someone was saying that he needs to stop falling on the floor if that elbow is fukked up and I agree. Sit out a few games and drain that shyt already.
Also, even though he don't score, he needs to start. He helps set the tone defensively. It's like not like they'd lose scoring by moving Jack to the bench.
Something was up with KP's shot last night, might be the elbow. Someone was saying that he needs to stop falling on the floor if that elbow is fukked up and I agree. Sit out a few games and drain that shyt already.
waltthizzney
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Knicks cant talk after choking that game away
storyteller
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This is the type of loss you take in stride. A young team didn't quite know how to close out but they just went head up with the biggest star in the league and showed no backing down. Dude has been a disrespectful primadonna in the Garden for two years now and the Knicks got in his face (props Kanter) and left the Cavs crying to the refs for an entire half. If it wasn't for Korver getting hot and the rotations falling off with fatigue, this could have been a blowout win. Even so, this year doesn't come down to playoffs or wins at all; it's about developing the youth and building an identity. The Garden is building into a hostile environment with the Knicks playing scrappy ball and the refs starting to give them the benefit on calls. The youngsters are gonna needs reps in intense, close situations to really come into their own. This was a great test and serious learning experience for a team that everyone assumed would be bottom five against a team everyone expects to be in the NBA Finals.
KP: The struggle was real for KP. He struggled with doubles from the Cavs, missed some gimmes and didn't know how to draw fouls with Bron on him. He did draw fouls on EVERYBODY else though, pushing the Knicks into the bonus pretty much by himself in the fourth. His real shine came after Frank and Kanter went at Bron; KP got off the bench and quickly put a couple of baskets in. The other two added intensity and KP responded with buckets, forcing the Cavs to double. While he didn't score efficiently, he really kicked the ball out of the doubles well in spite of just one assist. He was grabbing the old hockey assists we'd see in games where Melo focused on moving the rock. 20 pts, 7 boards, an assist, 2 steals and a block on Love where he stood straight up without jumping and blocked Love who was attempting a turn around fading jumper...Porzingis has lessons to learn and skills to build yet, but that statline is impressive as hell for a "bad game."
THJ: Star of the game for the Knicks side and he did it everywhere. 28 points, 10 boards, 5 assists and a pair of steals on 10-20 from the field. His shot selection might be something we have to deal with, for every two consecutive buckets he makes we get a heat check over a double-team or off the dribble and five feet behind the three point line. That said, he takes those sensing the momentum ready to blow and if he makes them it's a spark...he just has to realize that's a time to let the game come to him and generate the energy organically. Going to the rim is there for him more often than he takes advantage and I want to see him do more. Defensively, he was good for three quarters and maybe gassed having done so much elsewhere in the fourth. The effort to chase Korver was there mind you, but he took some bad paths to the man and even when he did get there; Korver was just on fire. Best game of the season for Timmy and his play is trending up lately.
Kanter: Enes Kanter was fired up for this one. Don't tell me about his effort in other games, THIS was an example of 100% intensity Kanter. 20 points, 16 boards, 4 assists a double T with Lebron and a post game interview calling out all of the disrespectful primadonna behavior that Lebron just assumes he's allowed to do unchecked because his stans are worse than most Trump supporters with blind allegiance. The Cavs are built for Kanter to eat on the boards, they rarely use a Center anymore and effort doesn't beat seven feet on the glass. Offensively, he was a head up player on this one and the Cavs had nobody to stop him in the post (doubly so with them focused heavily on KP). The killer for him was that in the fourth quarter, as the rest of the team's rotations got sloppy; he was the odd man out. He can't really be expected to keep up with a 3 guard 2 forward line-up off the ball and had to sit for that portion. Not really his fault, the Knicks can make up for his slow feet if they're playing smart and intense but the team just seemed a step slow as a whole. Really good game overall, he set a tone with his play, actions and words that he backed up.
Lee: 15 pts, 4 boards, 2 steals on 50% shooting along with pretty good defense on Lebron pretty much all night. No he couldn't stop Lebron from driving, but no one can because the dude is a bull. He kept a body on Bron for help to arrive and it was up to the rest of the cast to chase guys off the line which happened for most of three quarters. Overall this goes right back to general Lee reviews...reliable performance. My big complaint for Lee is that while he's great at making a basket to break a scoring streak from the opponent; that blow the roof off basket when the Knicks have momentum and are on the verge of a run seems to always elude him.
Jack: 2 pts, 5 assists to 3 TOs, 2 boards and 1/5 from the field. He wasn't very good in this one tbh. There are times when he knows a score would bring relief to the team but he's shooting so miserably that he just makes things worse. He's not able to consistently push the pace or breakdown the defense, so you get spurts that'd be best served as a bench spark. I spent about 3 minutes of the fourth quarter screaming for Frank to be subbed in. Just one of those nights where his steady output wasn't gonna be enough down the stretch and Hornacek didn't recognize it in time to stop a huge momentum shift.
McDermott: 2 pts, 2 boards and an assist in one of his worst statistical performances of the year but also a performance I actually didn't mind. His one bucket was a follow up jam on the break. He was a part of the big second quarter run. His plus/minus led the team. So why good signs with no stats? I'd attribute that to his off-ball defense. He chased Korver better than anyone else last night, maybe helped by being bigger to get through screens and disrupt shots. It's a bit of a shocker compared to his reputation, but the guy has been getting after it most nights and did great at that aspect last night.
Frank: Lebron tried to play a headgame and got shoved by a 19 year old then checked by a 7 footer; rumble young man rumble. Frank's response to Lebron's antics was to steal the ball 5 times in the first half. Wade looked frustrated, Bron got stripped and passing lanes looked tight as Frank locked in and the entire team rallied behind him. 7 pts, 2 assists, 3 boards and 6 steals to 3 TO's for the kid. You can see that he's still learning, a pull up jumper will get some pressure off of him and his drive for a lay-up in this one had to leave everyone saying "he really does need to do that more." But the team is just so clearly better with him out there that it's a shock he's young. Defensively he has all the makings of a stopper for years to come and a disruptive team defense presence. He had a bad TO in the final 2 minutes but overall in a game where the pressure was on he responded well. The team really does seem to rally for him and I'd like to see him spend more and more time sharing the floor with KP because their combined length is just not even fair.
KOQ: Absolute worst game of his season. I felt like maybe he got in there TOO fired up and picked up some dumb offensive fouls, didn't play smart and just failed to gain any traction. 2 points, 4 boards and a monster block but he gave up offensive boards, offensive fouls, turned it over and just didn't look like the focused player we've had in the other 12 games. I hope he's not stressing Noah's return and that it was just an outlier. We've seen KOQ go inconsistent before and he's been one of our best two way guys thus far so we really can't have that.
Lance: 17 minutes and one of those old fashioned Lance Thomas statlines. 5 points, 1 board, 0 assists, 1 steal, 2 TO's. The only player in the league where I hold my breath on a pump fake because he's as likely to turn it over as he is to make something of the defender flying past him; Lance just scares me out there at times. Yes, he's a decent defender and big bodied to throw on Bron late, but you're leaving a big hole rebounding because Lance doesn't board or box out well. He's easy to ignore on defense and like I said, if you chase him off the three point line he chokes as often as he produces if not more. He needs to not be asked to do too much...8th or 9th man is good enough.
Dotson: Got one minute out there when a run was starting for the opposition and I think this was right where KOQ had his worst stanza but can't remember clearly because it was so fast.
Hornacek: The team needs to learn how to hold on to a lead but I think Hornacek could help them out a bit more. He left Kanter out there too long in the fourth against a small ball team that was RAINING on em. Jarrett Jack, likewise, was left out there in the fourth for way too long when rotations were struggling. He left Timmy chasing Korver instead of giving the team's leading scorer a lighter assignment to focus on putting up points. That said, he let Frank keep going in the second quarter and when the team was chasing players off the line it looked like the gameplan was brilliant. This isn't a game to be too mad at Hornacek, he even tried to get Dotson out there...but it was far from his best and I think the rotation could still be tweaked for more impact.
Big Picture: If we make the playoffs we're ahead of schedule, if we miss 'em we add another lottery pick. This season is a win-win and with the youth flashing real quality ball, it's pretty exciting even after a tough loss to think what's to come for this franchise.
KP: The struggle was real for KP. He struggled with doubles from the Cavs, missed some gimmes and didn't know how to draw fouls with Bron on him. He did draw fouls on EVERYBODY else though, pushing the Knicks into the bonus pretty much by himself in the fourth. His real shine came after Frank and Kanter went at Bron; KP got off the bench and quickly put a couple of baskets in. The other two added intensity and KP responded with buckets, forcing the Cavs to double. While he didn't score efficiently, he really kicked the ball out of the doubles well in spite of just one assist. He was grabbing the old hockey assists we'd see in games where Melo focused on moving the rock. 20 pts, 7 boards, an assist, 2 steals and a block on Love where he stood straight up without jumping and blocked Love who was attempting a turn around fading jumper...Porzingis has lessons to learn and skills to build yet, but that statline is impressive as hell for a "bad game."
THJ: Star of the game for the Knicks side and he did it everywhere. 28 points, 10 boards, 5 assists and a pair of steals on 10-20 from the field. His shot selection might be something we have to deal with, for every two consecutive buckets he makes we get a heat check over a double-team or off the dribble and five feet behind the three point line. That said, he takes those sensing the momentum ready to blow and if he makes them it's a spark...he just has to realize that's a time to let the game come to him and generate the energy organically. Going to the rim is there for him more often than he takes advantage and I want to see him do more. Defensively, he was good for three quarters and maybe gassed having done so much elsewhere in the fourth. The effort to chase Korver was there mind you, but he took some bad paths to the man and even when he did get there; Korver was just on fire. Best game of the season for Timmy and his play is trending up lately.
Kanter: Enes Kanter was fired up for this one. Don't tell me about his effort in other games, THIS was an example of 100% intensity Kanter. 20 points, 16 boards, 4 assists a double T with Lebron and a post game interview calling out all of the disrespectful primadonna behavior that Lebron just assumes he's allowed to do unchecked because his stans are worse than most Trump supporters with blind allegiance. The Cavs are built for Kanter to eat on the boards, they rarely use a Center anymore and effort doesn't beat seven feet on the glass. Offensively, he was a head up player on this one and the Cavs had nobody to stop him in the post (doubly so with them focused heavily on KP). The killer for him was that in the fourth quarter, as the rest of the team's rotations got sloppy; he was the odd man out. He can't really be expected to keep up with a 3 guard 2 forward line-up off the ball and had to sit for that portion. Not really his fault, the Knicks can make up for his slow feet if they're playing smart and intense but the team just seemed a step slow as a whole. Really good game overall, he set a tone with his play, actions and words that he backed up.
Lee: 15 pts, 4 boards, 2 steals on 50% shooting along with pretty good defense on Lebron pretty much all night. No he couldn't stop Lebron from driving, but no one can because the dude is a bull. He kept a body on Bron for help to arrive and it was up to the rest of the cast to chase guys off the line which happened for most of three quarters. Overall this goes right back to general Lee reviews...reliable performance. My big complaint for Lee is that while he's great at making a basket to break a scoring streak from the opponent; that blow the roof off basket when the Knicks have momentum and are on the verge of a run seems to always elude him.
Jack: 2 pts, 5 assists to 3 TOs, 2 boards and 1/5 from the field. He wasn't very good in this one tbh. There are times when he knows a score would bring relief to the team but he's shooting so miserably that he just makes things worse. He's not able to consistently push the pace or breakdown the defense, so you get spurts that'd be best served as a bench spark. I spent about 3 minutes of the fourth quarter screaming for Frank to be subbed in. Just one of those nights where his steady output wasn't gonna be enough down the stretch and Hornacek didn't recognize it in time to stop a huge momentum shift.
McDermott: 2 pts, 2 boards and an assist in one of his worst statistical performances of the year but also a performance I actually didn't mind. His one bucket was a follow up jam on the break. He was a part of the big second quarter run. His plus/minus led the team. So why good signs with no stats? I'd attribute that to his off-ball defense. He chased Korver better than anyone else last night, maybe helped by being bigger to get through screens and disrupt shots. It's a bit of a shocker compared to his reputation, but the guy has been getting after it most nights and did great at that aspect last night.
Frank: Lebron tried to play a headgame and got shoved by a 19 year old then checked by a 7 footer; rumble young man rumble. Frank's response to Lebron's antics was to steal the ball 5 times in the first half. Wade looked frustrated, Bron got stripped and passing lanes looked tight as Frank locked in and the entire team rallied behind him. 7 pts, 2 assists, 3 boards and 6 steals to 3 TO's for the kid. You can see that he's still learning, a pull up jumper will get some pressure off of him and his drive for a lay-up in this one had to leave everyone saying "he really does need to do that more." But the team is just so clearly better with him out there that it's a shock he's young. Defensively he has all the makings of a stopper for years to come and a disruptive team defense presence. He had a bad TO in the final 2 minutes but overall in a game where the pressure was on he responded well. The team really does seem to rally for him and I'd like to see him spend more and more time sharing the floor with KP because their combined length is just not even fair.
KOQ: Absolute worst game of his season. I felt like maybe he got in there TOO fired up and picked up some dumb offensive fouls, didn't play smart and just failed to gain any traction. 2 points, 4 boards and a monster block but he gave up offensive boards, offensive fouls, turned it over and just didn't look like the focused player we've had in the other 12 games. I hope he's not stressing Noah's return and that it was just an outlier. We've seen KOQ go inconsistent before and he's been one of our best two way guys thus far so we really can't have that.
Lance: 17 minutes and one of those old fashioned Lance Thomas statlines. 5 points, 1 board, 0 assists, 1 steal, 2 TO's. The only player in the league where I hold my breath on a pump fake because he's as likely to turn it over as he is to make something of the defender flying past him; Lance just scares me out there at times. Yes, he's a decent defender and big bodied to throw on Bron late, but you're leaving a big hole rebounding because Lance doesn't board or box out well. He's easy to ignore on defense and like I said, if you chase him off the three point line he chokes as often as he produces if not more. He needs to not be asked to do too much...8th or 9th man is good enough.
Dotson: Got one minute out there when a run was starting for the opposition and I think this was right where KOQ had his worst stanza but can't remember clearly because it was so fast.
Hornacek: The team needs to learn how to hold on to a lead but I think Hornacek could help them out a bit more. He left Kanter out there too long in the fourth against a small ball team that was RAINING on em. Jarrett Jack, likewise, was left out there in the fourth for way too long when rotations were struggling. He left Timmy chasing Korver instead of giving the team's leading scorer a lighter assignment to focus on putting up points. That said, he let Frank keep going in the second quarter and when the team was chasing players off the line it looked like the gameplan was brilliant. This isn't a game to be too mad at Hornacek, he even tried to get Dotson out there...but it was far from his best and I think the rotation could still be tweaked for more impact.
Big Picture: If we make the playoffs we're ahead of schedule, if we miss 'em we add another lottery pick. This season is a win-win and with the youth flashing real quality ball, it's pretty exciting even after a tough loss to think what's to come for this franchise.
qnsfinest
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If the elbow really is a problem for KP, this would be the perfect time to sit him for 10-15 games, bring him back 5-10 games before the ASG so he can play and possibly sit him down after 60 games. That definitely will bring in the losses and put us back on track for a top pick.
Agreed.
Sit him and let Timmy learn how to blossom into something special...he's really on the cusp.
fukk that dude @Mr. Jack Napier dude completely turned his back on the Knicks
Come in here for that neg train I saw what u said about the cavs coming back
The WOAT yall
thatrapsfan
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Kanter is only 25. Can we keep this breh around? 
mbewane
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Don't want no one talking about trading Kanter
Really rough loss but growing pains I guess
They should all be mad as fukk and use this as more motivation to work and execute. How we respond to this loss will be big imo. Cavs still the Eastern conference champs with Lebron James on the squad, and they needed an exceptionnal 4th to pull this off. They're playoff-tested vets, we're not.
Edit :
Some dude on IG said "Kanter got beef with the president of Turkey you think he's scared of LeBron"
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i rarely say this....The WOAT yall
that nikkas a fakkit
imagine a 30+ year old behaving like this
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imagine a 30+ year old repping you to act like he's not hurt that nikkas see the hoe in him.
imagine a 30+ year old calling you "big mad" like a beyonce stan or a 16 year old girl
you share a lot of traits with bron @Mr. Jack Napier
being petty to mask your feminine emotions is one of them
oh yeah, i'll continue to quote you and mention you cause i know it bothers you
