A Blown Knee & Flat Tires-Another NY Pothole Year: 17-18 Knicks Season Thread

[seemorecizzy]

they have ran triangle sets this year. i've seen it with my own two eyes with kp in the mid post.
dont be dense. points =/= running an efficient and effective offense...damian lillard is an example of a shoot first pg that would actually work well with kp cause his vision isnt horrendous like roses
there is legitmately no excuse for rose to have the ball as much as he did last year and average 4 assists sorry.
rose can get his. melo can always get his....but does that equate to good basketball when the two players that have the ball the most love to zone out and take shots without giving a fukk about what everyone else is doing? also doesnt help that they're terrible on defense but thats another story.
this isnt an anti melo or rose post. i fukk with them as people but good god almighty they arent the model basketball players.

running a set every now and then means nothing
90-95 percent of the time we are running a completely different system

rose had a couple 7-8 assist games during the first half of the season when we were winning and running more of what horn wanted to run
we kept changing game plans and rose as the pg, was confused as fukk.

 

[ikbm]

running a set every now and then means nothing
90-95 percent of the time we are running a completely different system

rose had a couple 7-8 assist games during the first half of the season when we were winning and running more of what horn wanted to run
we kept changing game plans and rose as the pg, was confused as fukk.

get the fukk outta here
even in rose's mvp year his vision was suspect....and he's regressed
rose hasnt averaged 5 assists per game in 6 YEARS fukk OUTTA HERE
HIS VISION IS TRASH
HES NOT A GREAT PLAYMAKER FOR ANYONE BUT HIMSELF...

 

[K-ZOE]

they have ran triangle sets this year. i've seen it with my own two eyes with kp in the mid post.
dont be dense. points =/= running an efficient and effective offense...damian lillard is an example of a shoot first pg that would actually work well with kp cause his vision isnt horrendous like roses
there is legitmately no excuse for rose to have the ball as much as he did last year and average 4 assists sorry.
rose can get his. melo can always get his....but does that equate to good basketball when the two players that have the ball the most love to zone out and take shots without giving a fukk about what everyone else is doing? also doesnt help that they're terrible on defense but thats another story.
this isnt an anti melo or rose post. i fukk with them as people but good god almighty they arent the model basketball players.

I'm glad you got that off your chest breh.

As for myself, I was simply saying Rose isn't garbage and Melo isn't over the hill yet. If you got that I was saying we played good bball outta that statement then so be it.

KP at the mid-post does not a triangle make. But ok sure. Run with that. Maybe Phil will come back one day if we ask nice.

 

[Derek Lee]

running a set every now and then means nothing
90-95 percent of the time we are running a completely different system

rose had a couple 7-8 assist games during the first half of the season when we were winning and running more of what horn wanted to run
we kept changing game plans and rose as the pg, was confused as fukk.

He was averaging below 5 assists per game during Porzingis' hot streak in the first month and a half of last season, dumbass. He's not a good playmaker for others. THIS HAS BEEN KNOWN YEARS NOW. Do you even research your talking points???

 

[ikbm]

I'm glad you got that off your chest breh.

As for myself, I was simply saying Rose isn't garbage and Melo isn't over the hill yet. If you got that I was saying we played good bball outta that statement then so be it.

KP at the mid-post does not a triangle make. But ok sure. Run with that. Maybe Phil will come back one day if we ask nice.

kristaps at the elbow midpost with a point guard in the corner and a 2 guard at the wing 3 point line...after it was initiated by a pnr roll makes a triangle set
are you nikkas legitimately watching the games or are making excuses just cause you like rose and melo and dislike phil for what he did.
rose is not garbage...but his style of play isnt conducive to winning unless put in the most ideal of situations ie...with lebron playmaking so he can focus on slashing.
same is said for melo.
the more decisions and responsibility you give rose and melo at these stages in their career the worse off you are as a basketball team.
they need their strengths highlighted and their weaknesses minimized. we couldnt provide that here.

 

[Ironman]

Does kp get at least one 50 point game this season?

Phoenix coming up

 

[seemorecizzy]

get the fukk outta here
even in rose's mvp year his vision was suspect....and he's regressed
rose hasnt averaged 5 assists per game in 6 YEARS fukk OUTTA HERE
HIS VISION IS TRASH
HES NOT A GREAT PLAYMAKER FOR ANYONE BUT HIMSELF...

what does that have to do with anything i just said? lol

 

[K-ZOE]

kristaps at the elbow midpost with a point guard in the corner and a 2 guard at the wing 3 point line...after it was initiated by a pnr roll makes a triangle set
are you nikkas legitimately watching the games or are making excuses just cause you like rose and melo and dislike phil for what he did.
rose is not garbage...but his style of play isnt conducive to winning unless put in the most ideal of situations ie...with lebron playmaking so he can focus on slashing.
same is said for melo.
the more decisions and responsibility you give rose and melo at these stages in their career the worse off you are as a basketball team.
they need their strengths highlighted and their weaknesses minimized. we couldnt provide that here.

Yes because the triangle is very PnR heavy

Look man, just stop. Enjoy this exciting basketball as I am and hope it continues. The dissertations on Rose and Melo's games are unnecessary. Everything you just said about Rose I initially said in a post you've already quoted. You invoke Dame Lillard as if I didn't already say KP could play with a playmaker PG that's not pass first. It's all there for you to read, but instead you keep quoting me railing against Melo and Rose.

I'm not even sure why you're quoting me based on the context I mentioned them in. What is it you're even arguing? And don't lump me in with "dudes". If you gonna argue with me can we at least argue about the same thing?

 

[K-ZOE]

what does that have to do with anything i just said? lol

Dude is on some other shyt...

 

[seemorecizzy]

He was averaging below 5 assists per game during Porzingis' hot streak in the first month and a half of last season, dumbass. He's not a good playmaker for others. THIS HAS BEEN KNOWN YEARS NOW. Do you even research your talking points???

in november,
rose had 1 game with 11 assists
2 games with 8 assists
3 games with 7 assists
and 3 games with 5 assists

i'm just speaking facts lol
i never said anything about him being a great play maker
i said he had some games where he had 7-8 assists lol not sure why you are getting emotional

rose had already accepted a reduced role, once we kept switching up the offense and he got confused and just resorted back to what he knew

 

[ikbm]

what does that have to do with anything i just said? lol

it has everything with what you just said
it doesnt matter what the fukk kinda offense we ran...his lack of vision is hindering...and even more highlighted as he slowly becomes less athletic.
his mediocre jumper in today's nba is hindering.
his terrible defense awareness and general defense is hindering
he lacks some very basic point guard instincts.
i gotta spell it out my nikka?
rose accepted a reduced role? his usage says otherwise. you rattling off roughly 9 games out of the 60+ he played as an exception is a joke.

 

[DPresidential]

I'm glad I'm not one of the brehs who just can't enjoy a positive wave when we have it.

I'm on Cloud Nine right now.

 

[seemorecizzy]

it has everything with what you just said
it doesnt matter what the fukk kinda offense we ran...his lack of vision is hindering...and even more highlighted as he slowly becomes less athletic.
his mediocre jumper in today's nba is hindering.
his terrible defense awareness and general defense is hindering
he lacks some very basic point guard instincts.
i gotta spell it out my nikka?

rose had 7-8 assist games in november, even had a 11 assist game, this is a fact
rose was confused by the offense, he expressed this verbally, the whole team was, another fact
i never said anything beyond that.
save your emotional rants for someone else

 

[ikbm]

rose had 7-8 assist games in november, even had a 11 assist game, this is a fact
rose was confused by the offense, he expressed this verbally, the whole team was, another fact
i never said anything beyond that.
save your emotional rants for someone else

aint no one emotional
you caping for a player that played 1 underwhelming ass year for us

rose accepted a reduced role? his usage says otherwise. you rattling off roughly 9 games out of the 60+ he played as an exception is a joke.

instead of admitting that certain players are flawed...its every other excuse in the world. phil, hornacek, kristaps.

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

Come on breh. They are playing smart, basic basketball. That doesn't make it "triangle philosophy".


EDIT: Also Rose averaged 18 a game last year. Far from garbage. A good triangle PG? No. A pass 1st or playmaker PG like KP needs? No.

And over the hill Melo is averaging a shade under 24 points this year.

not garbage, but it was a mediocre 18ppg, considering how often touched the ball and how long he had it. Rose is not a good pg in general, he was the second option last year( Not a third one like people here want you to believe lately, and stats back this up), he had plenty of opportunities to show otherwise. The team ran the triangle maybe 25% of the time last year,and he had plenty of pick and roll opportunities last year. Rose was consistently a bad defender and a bad playmaker, every decision he made looked like it was premeditated, and not based off of a read of the defense. He doesn't get to the line, and can't stretch the defense because he can't shoot, so he fukked up spacing when he played. The Knicks weren't the greatest team in the world, but you have a 7'3" guy who moves like a sg and actively cuts off of the ball, and an elite spot up shooter in Carmelo, how do you not average more than 4 assists per game? Jarrett Jack is averaging more now, and he's washed and not a pass first pg himself.

Not all of that was aimed at you, this is just a general statement being made in light of all of the Rose revisionist history being made the past couple of months. He sucked as a starter last year, he sucked the previous two years, and he sucks now, and I'm 95% sure last game he played against us, while trying to inbound the ball, he passed it to KP thinking they were still teammates. It's been 4 years of excuses for the guy, how long before we admit he's not that good?