83% of voters who broke for Trump think Harris & the Democrats support using taxpayer dollars to pay for transgender surgeries forundocumented inmates

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Lmao there is no argument for me to lose her buddy. You can try and disregard critical points that go into determining how things work to make your point all you want........ it just comes across as maga tactics........ there has been no cases of detained undocumented immigrants being given or even requesting tax prayer funded gender affirming care........ so that means my attention is solely focused on things that will actually affect my bottom dollar and the future of my seed........I won't be getting increased child tax.......I won't be getting my new home buyer incentive.......I will have to take into serious consideration gone schooling my kids......I know as fact I will have to shoot at a minium 1 person during this presidency........ so miss me with all that other shyt....... you don't seem to understand which side you representing lately and are confused about some things...... hope it clears up for you
Do you support trans inmates that are illegal immigrants getting access to taxpayer funded gender affirming surgeries?
 

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:dahell: Being told you're bad person for not wanting Juwanna Mann dunking on your teenage daughter in basketball required thought and logic?

Putting males in female prisons is logical?
That comment implied no particular subject matter........ don't put your baggage on me breh........ my statement was general
 

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He spent 215 million dollars on anti transgender political advertisements. Basically $135 for every trans person
 

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He spent 215 million dollars on anti transgender political advertisements. Basically $135 for every trans person
Yeah, and the election results show they were worth every penny. :yeshrug:

Just like LibsofTiktok, the ads wouldn't exist if insane liberals didn't give them material to work with.
 

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Yeah, and the election results show they were worth every penny. :yeshrug:

Just like LibsofTiktok, the ads wouldn't exist if insane liberals didn't give them material to work with.


I'm not here to argue against it's effectiveness because that would be a losing battle. I just think it's crazy how much energy people give to a miniscule percentage of the public. The signal boosting of this issue is insane
 

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dems didn’t snuff the issue out and kept pandering to the trans community as if they had any legitimacy or reasonable political demands. At no point should dems have allowed the sports thing to continue. It’s a core violation of the normie coalition.

The thing about the trans issue is that it’s like finding out mid-argument that someone thinks the earth is flat. At that point, it supersedes any other ability for you to take the other person seriously or value their opinion in any way to reach common ground if they refute such a fundamental aspect of reality by even entertaining such a ludicrous thought. It pollutes your credibility in irreparable ways.
Nope, I hear your POV but there was no significant way blunt the issue without throwing trans folk under the bus. Harris did not make that a central or even peripheral issue during her campaign as she explicitly moved center in after the debate. Right-wing media nonstop made it, immigration, and economy a focus that did not stop because a Democrat countered it.

Immigration: Trump publicly torpedoed a bipartisan bill crafted by a lifelong hardcore republican and STILL Dems got blamed. Crossings went down, Republicans still yelled about them being high. Crime is at decade lows but Republicans still ran with it.

The most damning ad, the “they/them vs us” commercial quoted a 2018 interview and did not include any context. Its ok to admit that the echo chambers won this round and the only way to get around it is a stronger leftist media because the right has podcasts, terrestrial radio, and major media arms who are lockstep. They are not big tent. While Kamala's talking about 30 different subjects, Trump could scream about migrants eating pets and no amount of pushback got it out of the collective consciousness. Trans issues were used in place of a real platform. They didnt know how well it would work hence “there is cheating in PA” Truth Social post. There was no way to know that something so idiotic and easily disproven would actually make a difference to so much of the electorate. Misinformation and disinformation is stronger than ever, and people can make up their own news and never accept the possibility of getting the truth.
 
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Nope, I hear you’re POV but there was no significant way blunt the issue without throwing trans folk under the bus.
Then they’re not a real community if they’re that fragile. They’re immune to criticism or pushback or revision. Their inability to be flexible means the rigidity of conservatives is the only people they will negotiate with. So be it.
Harris did not make that a central or even peripheral issue during her campaign as she explicitly moved center in after the debate. Right-wing media nonstop made it, immigration, and economy a focus that did not stop because a Democrat countered it.
Both POTUS and VPOTUS embraced the trans community excessively during their administration. Let’s not play dumb here.
Immigration: Trump publicly torpedoed a bipartisan bill crafted by a lifelong hardcore republican and STILL Dems got blamed. Crossings went down, Republicans still yelled about them being high. Crime is at decade lows but Republicans still ran with it.
Outside of migrants being shipped around I think this is a more bipartisan issue.
The most damning ad, the “they/them vs us” commercial quoted a 2018 interview and did not include any context.
thats the nature of political ads
Its ok to admit that the echo chambers won this round and the only way to get around it is a stronger leftist media because the right has podcasts, terrestrial radio, and major media arms who are lockstep. They are not big tent.
I really dont see how counter programing fixes this. Either you stand for the issue or not. We need more clarity on issues and less embracing of communities via ambiguous associations. Look at the Arab/muslim communities.
While Kamala's talking about 30 different subjects, Trump could scream about migrants eating pets and no amount of pushback got it out of the collective consciousness. Trans issues were used in place of a real platform. They didnt know how well it would work hence “there is cheating in PA” Truth Social post. There was no way to know that something so idiotic and easily disproven would actually make a difference to so much of the electorate. Misinformation and disinformation is stronger than ever, and people can make up their own news and never accept the possibility of getting the truth.

Are you trying to convince me of something? I’m not making this argument.
 

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This. Even if democrats supported this, which they don't, how many illegal prisoners asking for a sex change do these people believe exist? Imagine basing your voting decision on something as ridiculous as this?
They DO support it. Thats the thing. Either you’re against it or you’re for it. There no ambiguity on this issue.
 

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I'm not here to argue against it's effectiveness because that would be a losing battle. I just think it's crazy how much energy people give to a miniscule percentage of the public. The signal boosting of this issue is insane

Why does the percentage matter?

Yall keep doing this evasive tactic because you’ve learned somewhere that not addressing the actual issue is how you win arguments, and its not working any more.

Do you support it or not? Whether it’s 0.1% or 10% of the population?
 
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