8/20 DAZN: Oleksandr Usyk vs Anthony Joshua 2 (WBA/WBO/IBF Heavyweight Titles)

[<<TheStandard>>]

Still would love to see AJ vs Wilder if Wilder takes care of business in October.
AJ doesn't suddenly turn into trash cause he lost this fight lol. That's still a compelling fight

What we really want though is Fury vs Usyk. Would be really disappointing if that isn't settled

Wilder puts AJ to sleep.

If it happens I'll be in attendance

 

[2 Up 2 Down]

This is true. There is a variant of AJ that steamrolls opponents, even with his limited boxing skills, stamina and agility. He was much improved and he had great moments. To me the block was exposed at the end. AJ still has issues with ego. He cannot fully let go - the idea of being floored, getting knocked out, looking weak, it makes him feel like less of a man. It stops him from risking it all, and the risks he needs to take are what ultimately would have led to a win, given he had worked on better fundamentals. He wants to be a boxer. Whereas madmen like Fury and Usyk don't give a shyt. Fury is a boxer. But he is happy to be messy, to throw his gameplan out the window. He is happy to be a brawler for the sake of the win, eventhough he is a pure boxer. He doesn't care how silly he looks getting knocked down, he gets back up and is focused. It is ego that stops AJ. He cares too much what people think of him. The end was his ego trying to 'one up' Usyk. His ego said, I worked so hard, I am not being made a fool again by losing. But sadly he came out the fool.

That Ruiz loss fukked him up. But I think it was more to the negativity that came from the boxing fans after building up hierarchy in the division. If he would've got stopped in the Klitschko fight I don't he would've been affected mentally.

Also Usyk is just a really bad match up for AJ and many other tall heavyweights

 

[Adonis]

Idiots should've went for undisputed while they had the chance. Bet they're really kicking themselves now.

 

[Derek Lee]

That AJ post fight rant will go down in infamy

 

[Suspicious Dingo]

 

[African Peasant]

This is true. There is a variant of AJ that steamrolls opponents, even with his limited boxing skills, stamina and agility. He was much improved and he had great moments. To me the block was exposed at the end. AJ still has issues with ego. He cannot fully let go - the idea of being floored, getting knocked out, looking weak, it makes him feel like less of a man. It stops him from risking it all, and the risks he needs to take are what ultimately would have led to a win, given he had worked on better fundamentals. He wants to be a boxer. Whereas madmen like Fury and Usyk don't give a shyt. Fury is a boxer. But he is happy to be messy, to throw his gameplan out the window. He is happy to be a brawler for the sake of the win, eventhough he is a pure boxer. He doesn't care how silly he looks getting knocked down, he gets back up and is focused. It is ego that stops AJ. He cares too much what people think of him. The end was his ego trying to 'one up' Usyk. His ego said, I worked so hard, I am not being made a fool again by losing. But sadly he came out the fool.

Interesting analysis. You can apply this to so many aspects of one's life.

 

[Derek Lee]

This is a good classic heavyweight slugfest. Sanchez-Ajagba was too. Heavyweight division high key been producing entertaining fights the last two years.

That fight was by FAAAAAAR the worst bout on the Fury-Wilder 3 card. Complete snooze fest.

 

[Duke Wy Lin]

Heavy weight boxing is garbage right now. Nikkas like Whyte and Chisora are still in the mix

 

[Duke Wy Lin]

Imagine if Fury says some shyt like "I'll whoop this dosser worse than Putin"

 

[reservoirdogs]

I thought AJ did clearly better than in the first fight, he sat more on his punches and he only lost to 7-5 to me. His stamina couldn’t be up for the task though, it is what it is… after the 9th round Usyk sweeped the rest and it decided the fight.

Hats off to him for pretty much always fighting top 10 opponents unlike others but Usyk is just better, AJ couldn’t make that difference in experience disappear afterall

 

[InstantKlassik]

Glad the fashion model got exposed once again

 

[Bigblackted4]

Height is not a problem for him, just like it’s not a problem for people like Ruiz and Ortiz..

And Usyk is a better Technical boxer than both

Usyks main problem is will he be able to hurt Wilder. He never hurt AJ, was just outpunching most of the time.

Wilders jab is worse than AJ’s, movement is worse, IQ is even worse somehow. Still a dangerous fight for Usyk but only time Usyk has been hurt is literally when AJ actually started looking like a boxer, setting up a jab and actually throwing decent combos to the body. Wilder has NEVER done that

Simply not true go watch the second Ortiz fight. He set the KO punch up. Go watch the first fury fight the second KD he set up. He usually sets up his KOs by blinding a guy with the jab then boom. The punch Uysk kept getting tagged in the face with was a straight right which is Wilders beat punch.

 

[Bigblackted4]

Wilder vs AJ is still a huge fight. Don't know where you hold it at though.

Just not in Saudi Arabia please

Vegas or Wimbley

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Simply not true go watch the second Ortiz fight. He set the KO punch up. Go watch the first fury fight the second KD he set up. He usually sets up his KOs by blinding a guy with the jab then boom. The punch Uysk kept getting tagged in the face with was a straight right which is Wilders beat punch.

He doesn’t set anything up bruh, Ive seen enough of Wilder to at his basic boxing skills.

Plus, I never said he was the worst.. I said he was the worst HW champion with his basic boxing skills.

That lil flick of a jab not fukking with Usyk

 

[Adonis]

I think Usyk can beat Fury but I have to favor Tyson. I hope Usyk will have a ref that'll be quick to break up the clinches otherwise he'll be fighting a man that feels like a refrigerator is on top of him