7/29/2023 Showtime PPV presents The King of Fighters: Errol 'The Truth' Spence Jr vs Terence 'Bud' Crawford(WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring/Lineal 147 titles)

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dummies doubting Bud :mjlol:
Went from "we don't give guarantees at Showtime" to 20 Ms. That's on top of the $10M for a tune up bout. That's 30 Ms in a calendar year with barely any fanbase
"Horrible businessman Bud" :dead:

Thats before Tank v Ryan which obviously gave Showtime/PBC a big boost in their budget. Its not a coincidence that the Crawford v Spence got announced just one month after Tank v Ryan and now they signed Canelo to a huge deal too...first fight to do over a million ppvs in 5 years.

Ryan made over 30 mill from the Davis fight and was guaranteed 2.5 million. Thats why Al Haymon is telling these dudes "why would you cap yourself :mindblown: ".

We will see if Spence v Crawford is going to break a million ppvs.....is it a little too late? can Crawford carry this over the line? we will see.
 

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Thats before Tank v Ryan which obviously gave Showtime/PBC a big boost in their budget.
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They gave bud zero guaranteed money. Something completely unheard of in today's boxing scene. That wasn't about budget. That was just negotiating in bad faith. They were never serious about making the fight at that time. Bud had to personally call Spence this time and get him to force pbc's hand.

Bud walked away from that trash deal off principle. Went from zero guaranteed to 20 mil. It's amazing what you can get when you're willing to just walk away. Canelo did the same with the plant fight. The coli called him stupid and greedy. A few months later PBC gave him everything he asked for :mjlol:......bud knew PBC had no options left and knew they would cave eventually. Bud has always been a solid business man.
 

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They gave bud zero guaranteed money. Something completely unheard of in today's boxing scene. That wasn't about budget. That was just negotiating in bad faith. They were never serious about making the fight at that time. Bud had to personally call Spence this time and get him to force pbc's hand.

Bud walked away from that trash deal off principle. Went from zero guaranteed to 20 mil. It's amazing what you can get when you're willing to just walk away. Canelo did the same with the plant fight. The coli called him stupid and greedy. A few months later PBC gave him everything he asked for :mjlol:......bud knew PBC had no options left and knew they would cave. Dude has always been a good business man.
and they still wont admit he was right :dead: shyts absolutely crazy

Probably both fighters biggest payday :wow:
 

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They gave bud zero guaranteed money. Something completely unheard of in today's boxing scene. That wasn't about budget. That was just negotiating in bad faith. They were never serious about making the fight at that time. Bud had to personally call Spence this time and get him to force pbc's hand.

Bud walked away from that trash deal off principle. Went from zero guaranteed to 20 mil. It's amazing what you can get when you're willing to just walk away. Canelo did the same with the plant fight. The coli called him stupid and greedy. A few months later PBC gave him everything he asked for :mjlol:......bud knew PBC had no options left and knew they would cave eventually. Bud has always been a solid business man.

I know Crawford said he is willing to accept 0 dollars guaranteed.

The 35-year-old Crawford later explained Tuesday night that he was willing to accept Haymon’s unusual offer of $0 guaranteed for one of the most meaningful fights that can be made in boxing.
So Crawford is willing to do everything to make the fight happen even taking the "zero dollars guaranteed", but the only thing he wasn't willing to back down on was who was the A-side? Its not adding up:jbhmm:

In a recent interview with “The Pivot Podcast,” Spence revealed one of the causes for the delay and stalled negotiations towards making the fight happen — the battle over who would be the A-side.

They are going to have a coin toss on who comes out first, but y'all keep going with the narrative that Crawford was the one doing everything to make the fight happen :mjlol: ....Like who believes Crawford is the A-side? not even Bomac believes that shyt.


Its laughable to say Errol and PBC had no options left....are you seriously gonna say if this fight didn't go down that Errol would have less options available then bud :why: ....the guy who fought avenysan on blk prime:mjlol:
 

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I know Crawford said he is willing to accept 0 dollars guaranteed.


So Crawford is willing to do everything to make the fight happen even taking the "zero dollars guaranteed", but the only thing he wasn't willing to back down on was who was the A-side? Its not adding up:jbhmm:



They are going to have a coin toss on who comes out first, but y'all keep going with the narrative that Crawford was the one doing everything to make the fight happen :mjlol: ....Like who believes Crawford is the A-side? not even Bomac believes that shyt.


Its laughable to say Errol and PBC had no options left....are you seriously gonna say if this fight didn't go down that Errol would have less options available then bud :why: ....the guy who fought avenysan on blk prime:mjlol:
Bud walked away cause PBC refused to be transparent on the funding of the fight. Which is totally fair to ask if he's not getting any guarantee.

At the end of the day bud walked away. And he ended up getting everything he wanted. shyt he even got Spence guaranteed money too. Bud gave him a lesson in business. These PBC guys normally just take whatever they're offered. They never negotiate. Which is why bud was getting paid more at top rank than their whole roster. Spence got a 1.5 mil guarantee to fight ugas :mjlol: .....shyt is a slap in the face for a guy who's been so successful for them. Bud came through and let em know he wasn't letting that bullshyt slide. Spence should be thankful bud got em both a better deal:wow:
 

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Bud walked away cause PBC refused to be transparent on the funding of the fight. Which is totally fair to ask if he's not getting any guarantee.

At the end of the day bud walked away. And he ended up getting everything he wanted. shyt he even got Spence guaranteed money too. Bud gave him a lesson in business. These PBC guys normally just take whatever they're offered. They never negotiate. Which is why bud was getting paid more at top rank than their whole roster. Spence got a 1.5 mil guarantee to fight ugas :mjlol: .....shyt is a slap in the face for a guy who's been so successful for them. Bud came through and let em know he wasn't letting that bullshyt slide. Spence should be thankful bud got em both a better deal:wow:
Watch the juelzing that comes next :heh: its really hard for boys to say “Bud was right”
 

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. That wasn't about budget. That was just negotiating in bad faith. They were never serious about making the fight at that time. Bud had to personally call Spence this time and get him to force pbc's hand.
Right, that's why I gave props to Spence for getting this fight made. For some reason PBC had very little interest in making this fight. In the Stephen A interview Spence said he told them he not fighting until they made the Bud fight, they stalled this shyt out for a year and half until they had no other option. They risked having a division they controlled held up if they didn't make this fight so they caved. PBC would have preferred to make the Thurman fight most likely
 

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Right, that's why I gave props to Spence for getting this fight made. For some reason PBC had very little interest in making this fight. In the Stephen A interview Spence said he told them he not fighting until they made the Bud fight, they stalled this shyt out for a year and half until they had no other option. They risked having a division they controlled held up if they didn't make this fight so they caved. PBC would have preferred to make the Thurman fight most likely
all fighters need to take note, all that silly beefing n shyt, they can be more powerful if they was to come together frfr
 

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dummies doubting Bud :mjlol:
Went from "we don't give guarantees at Showtime" to 20 Ms. That's on top of the $10M for a tune up bout. That's 30 Ms in a calendar year with barely any fanbase
"Horrible businessman Bud" :dead:

Errol got all of those demands for Bud, including ridiculous shyt like that coin flip
 

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fight is a week away and dudes still arguing over how the fight was made and purses :dead:. please put fathers back in the homes so the stan wars amongst grown man can cease.
fight a week away and errol got fresh released videos drawling about how he got the fight made :ehh: he brought it up put a father in his home :heh:
 

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Bud walked away cause PBC refused to be transparent on the funding of the fight. Which is totally fair to ask if he's not getting any guarantee.

At the end of the day bud walked away. And he ended up getting everything he wanted. shyt he even got Spence guaranteed money too. Bud gave him a lesson in business. These PBC guys normally just take whatever they're offered. They never negotiate. Which is why bud was getting paid more at top rank than their whole roster. Spence got a 1.5 mil guarantee to fight ugas :mjlol: .....shyt is a slap in the face for a guy who's been so successful for them. Bud came through and let em know he wasn't letting that bullshyt slide. Spence should be thankful bud got em both a better deal:wow:
Notice how you didn't answer my question on who had more options between Errol or Bud:sas2:

You say Bud walked away because of "transparency", but nobody knows who his investors with the 25 million dollars for each fighter were..Even Errol has no clue who they are and they talked on the phone about it....in one hand y'all saying Crawford is willing to do everything to make the fight happen and in the other he just walking away if his needs aren't met...which one is it?

Its laughable to say PBC guys need a lesson in business like Tank ain't get paid, Errol ain't getting paid and Jermell ain't getting paid. Even Bud getting his biggest payday with PBC/Showtime....he signed a two fight deal with PBC...he is a PBC guy now too :umad:
 
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