7/29/2023 Showtime PPV presents The King of Fighters: Errol 'The Truth' Spence Jr vs Terence 'Bud' Crawford(WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring/Lineal 147 titles)

[baltimore]

Sorry but this is pure COPE

Break down how Crawford's gameplan was different than his other fights? And not with baseless conjecture like "He plays down to his opponents for 7 rounds"

Now spence and everyone seen the game plan they plotted for 5 years let spence come back and try again with a new plan cause he told everyone what package he was bringing and Crawford and them was too ready for it.

Don't call my shyt baseless that is how Crawford usually gets down how was anybody gonna know he was gonna do that?

I wanna see it again don't matter the weight but I do think for all the concessions and good will spence showed Crawford a dikkhead for giving him a hard time about the rematch weight esp when he saying he wants to fight way higher than that right after

 

[reservoirdogs]

I'm saying tho wilder fury 2 was a outlier in the trilogy.. fury came out with a whole new game plan and caught wilder off guard early and didn't let up..

Crawford also came out with a whole new game plan and caught spence early and didn't let up.. made up a whole new punch, didn't switch stances, didn't fight down to his opponents level for 7 rounds.. all shyt Crawford known for he didn't do

Spence tried to do him like ugas and porter but he was sharp and sound with Mikey.. maybe spence could box him down like that instead of not respecting Crawford at all

And the whole spence fans ain't know shyt about boxing would make more sense if any one group of people has predicted it would go like that.. Crawford and spence fans were shocked at that shyt then acted like we all should have known after

C'mon man, Bud is the better boxer than Spence, it won't work, don't compare Bud to Mikey. When Spence tried to be on his back foot Bud was picking him off too just at a slower pace than when Spence tried to start shyt.

It's neigh unprecedented that someone could win an immediate rematch after a beatdown like that. Ultimately it came down to Bud winning the battle of jabs. Took what's most important to Spence's game and nullified it, even turned it against himself.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Now spence and everyone seen the game plan they plotted for 5 years let spence come back and try again with a new plan cause he told everyone what package he was bringing and Crawford and them was too ready for it.

Don't call my shyt baseless that is how Crawford usually gets down how was anybody gonna know he was gonna do that?

I wanna see it again don't matter the weight but I do think for all the concessions and good will spence showed Crawford a dikkhead for giving him a hard time about the rematch weight esp when he saying he wants to fight way higher than that right after

Props to both of the fighters for finally taking it in their hands but let's not act like Spence just gave him an undeserved handout.

Spence was also the one who was okay to fight Bud when he was already 36, he was vocal about going the easier route first and the talk about different sides of the street, he didn't bang on Al Haymon's door to make the Bud fight before. He probably knew that if he never fought him that would be a strain on his career and people would always wonder "what if", also it was his biggest fight available by far, not counting a freak show fight against Canelo.

So in a way Spence just did what he was supposed to do a long time ago and he made LOTS of money on it, let's not act like Bud would own him anything else than what's in the contract.

 

[baltimore]

C'mon man, Bud is the better boxer than Spence, it won't work, don't compare Bud to Mikey. When Spence tried to be on his back foot Bud was picking him off too just at a slower pace than when Spence tried to start shyt.

It's neigh unprecedented that someone could win an immediate rematch after a beatdown like that. Ultimately it came down to Bud winning the battle of jabs. Took what's most important to Spence's game and nullified it, even turned it against himself.

It was too late by then, he had been hurt.. if the rematch spence makes bud earn that punishment boxing instead of trying to steamroll him at first it would be a whole new fight..

Props to both of the fighters for finally taking it in their hands but let's not act like Spence just gave him an undeserved handout.

Spence was also the one who was okay to fight Bud when he was already 36, he was vocal about going the easier route first and the talk about different sides of the street, he didn't bang on Al Haymon's door to make the Bud fight before. He probably knew that if he never fought him that would be a strain on his career and people would always wonder "what if", also it was his biggest fight available by far, not counting a freak show fight against Canelo.

So in a way Spence just did what he was supposed to do a long time ago and he made LOTS of money on it, let's not act like Bud would own him anything else than what's in the contract.

Your second post doesn't have any culpability for Crawford.. it's all on spence to put pressure on Al and make concessions. What could Crawford have done to at least be closer to 50/50 like he felt he was? 5 years and he just holds the same belt and resigns to top rank and wonders why pbc welters won't one by one force concessions to fight him.

This fight was the biggest for both of them but between double and triple Spence closest couple ppvs but 8 times crawfords other ppvs.. Crawford really had no other options and only promotion he did for mad years is talking shyt about spence and charlo once he finally left top rank.

Trying to get back to discussing the rematch tho the business side hasn't had any new info in a while and someone signing a one fight deal winner take all and they are the favorite has never been an easy sell to any promotion buts it's been fukk pbc around here Im not trying to take that on

 

[desjardins]

but let's not act like Spence just gave him an undeserved handout.


So in a way Spence just did what he was supposed to do a long time ago and he made LOTS of money on it

yea this is one of the more annoying takes people are pushing right now
Spence having to shelve himself for Haymon to make the fight is an indictment on boxing as a whole and how PBC blackballed Crawford more than anything
Acting like we supposed to praise Spence for forcing the biggest fight of his career that would end up paying him a career high after his side stalled the fight for 5 yrs to begin with is weird

 

[R=G]

Two accidents is stalling the fight..lol..Manny hiding the WBA belt for 2 years was stalling the fight...

 

[seemorecizzy]

It's two completely different situations. But I think @TheNig is pretty much right. Yea people thought pac was going to win. But that was mainly casual fans who barely watched any boxing outside of Manny and Floyd fights. But if we're talking strictly hardcore fans, then it's not even close. Way more hardcore fans believed Spence would beat bud. You had hardcore fans who thought Spence would completely bulldoze bud and make him quit. While most hardcore fans knew Manny beating Floyd was a longshot.

Spence fans are taking this way worse because of how it happened. Spence didn't just get beaten. He got demolished. Destroyed. Obliterated. It's completely different to the phsyce of these stans than if Spence lost a close fight. They would be able to accept it better.

But for Spence to get beaten in such brutal fashion. For them them to be THAT wrong....it means they have to accept that they're boxing knowledge is questionable. And they can't do that. All of this outrage from Spence stans is 100% rooted in embarrassment and shame and nothing else. After years and years of slandering buds name and overlooking all of Spence's glaring flaws. They had to sit there in front of their families....who they had probably yapped to for months on end about how Spence was the golden child....and watch the man they despise, systematically annihilate him. This has nothing to with defending Errol Spence. It's about defending their own credibility as boxing fans. This shyt burns their soul to its core. And it will never go away. Errol Spence was supposed to be the terminator. And he didn't just get beat. He got outboxed. Out worked. And

Plenty of hardcore boxings and otherwise smart ppl, thought floyd was getting knocked out and was scared of pacquaio...That cant be understated lol

Plenty of hardcore fans and otherwise smart ppl were acting like casuals during that time period. The errol L was bad but i dont think it's still a thing a year or so from now.

Go on any random floyd mayweather related post on instagram and you'll see it flooded with pacquaio stans still hurting and making excuses for that L and downplaying floyd's career...and that shyt was like 8 years ago

That Ether will burn eternally

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

Here's another video to steer up more bullshyt amongst the stans:


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[manyfaces]

As a Wilder fan I 100% concur. I was one of them watching Youtube videos that Tyson Fury had "egg weights" in his glove that caused a dent in Wilder's head

I'm ashamed of myself

At least you admit it. I was seeing people say that shyt and thinking "nikka are you hearing yourself".

 

[TheNig]

Here's another video to steer up more bullshyt amongst the stans:


enjoy

When people ask has Crawford ever looked that good, I tell them to go back and watch the Postol fight.

 

[gho3st]

I don't think the general public believed that Manny would win more than they believed Spence would win.

Spence and Wilder are this generation's Mayweather. Everybody knows who they are and expects them to win...

And when they loss, you could feel the air being sucked outta the room. Manny losing didn't have that same effect.

Fury/Wilder 2 was the last time I hosted a fight party and I remember people in MY HOUSE telling me that I wasn't a "real nikka" because I was riding with the sloppy white boy.

When they stopped that fight, it was nikkas that got up out of my house with the quickness because they knew I was gone be obnoxious as shyt.

I disagree with the Manny take. it would have been a different fight had they fought earlier.

i say that as a mayweather fan...

 

[Lurking Class Hero]

When people ask has Crawford ever looked that good, I tell them to go back and watch the Postol fight.

I've seen virtually every Crawford fight. He's never even been in a close fight. He got buzzed by Gamboa, lost some early rounds against Porter, and arguably got dropped against kavaliauskas. Three guys he still dropped multiple times and knocked out. So that's basically three instances of mild trouble over a 40 fight career
What are these guys talking about? Buds been almost nothing but dominant.

 

[seemorecizzy]

I disagree with the Manny take. it would have been a different fight had they fought earlier.

i say that as a mayweather fan...

different how?

 

[gho3st]

different how?

More contested. Mayweather would still win though. But it would have been a tougher/closer fight Than what we got in the end

 

[seemorecizzy]

More contested. Mayweather would still win though. But it would have been a tougher/closer fight Than what we got in the end

the only thing ill say about that is pacquaio fought marquez at 4 different times of his career. Pre prime, in prime, and slightly post prime and he went life and death every single time.

Styles make fights. Pacquaio and his camp should be happy the fight happened when it happend. Because if it happened in 09 or 10, He woulda got knocked out, and most casuals would forget about him. Floyd would never lose to a fighter smaller than him that cant cut off the ring