7/29/2023 Showtime PPV presents The King of Fighters: Errol 'The Truth' Spence Jr vs Terence 'Bud' Crawford(WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO/Ring/Lineal 147 titles)

[Megadeus]

I find a hard time believing this. This sounds like some shyt to make Mayweather look like some type of underdog.

Unless you were watching that fight with a big group of white folks and Asians, I just don't see how it's possible to that this happened.

What race do you think most casual fans are?
What race do you think most the general public is?
I'll give you a hint, it's not just blacks. Shyt theres barely any black ppl irl on this fxcking board.

You said out of your own mouth that the general public believed that Mayweather would win, and were not deflated when he washed Pac. I'm here to tell you that's incorrect. And I honestly don't know why you would have a hard time believing this, as most people dont know shyt about boxing.

Maybe you and your peoples had N idea how that was going to go down, but I promise you the general public did not see that azzwhopping coming like you think.

 

[TheNig]

What race do you think most casual fans are?
What race do you think most the general public is?
I'll give you a hint, it's not just blacks. Shyt theres barely any black ppl irl on this fxcking board.

You said out of your own mouth that the general public believed that Mayweather would win, and were not deflated when he washed Pac. I'm here to tell you that's incorrect. And I honestly don't know why you would have a hard time believing this, as most people dont know shyt about boxing.

Maybe you and your peoples had N idea how that was going to go down, but I promise you the general public did not see that azzwhopping coming like you think.

Maybe our idea of the general public differs so I'll put it like this...

The very first fight I remember watching was Round 10: Holyfield/Bowe. This was in like 91 or 92. So that's a lil over 30 years for me.

To me, a casual boxing fan is someone around my age, who didn't start watching boxing until Mayweather/De La Hoya.

The night of Wilder/Fury 2, that's who I was surrounded by. I don't take them serious because they're only familiarity with boxing is the fukkin shoulder roll.

And I never said that people weren't devastated that Manny didn't win. I'm just saying that Manny losing didn't have nearly the impact on his fans that Spence losing and Wilder losing had on their fans.

Where's that video of the one nikka that said Spence losing made him question if he knew anything about boxing?

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

And both Wilder and Spence's opponents were undefeated, so if that's what you want to base the premise on, wouldn't it make more sense that Crawford and Fury had a better chance against them than Manny had against Mayweather?

What are we even talking about here? Like the other poster said, many people really believed Manny was going to win/knock Floyd out. That's why it sold so much. The fallout from that fight is very close to being identical, except Crawford stopped Spence. But everyone saying that wasn't Errol Spence is ironically having the same argument people had when Manny lost.

 

[NormanConnors]

Gerald Washington is as low tier and chicken shyt as they come.

I remember watching the Wilder/Washington fight and thinking "This nikka can't box because Washington ain't shyt".

So I thought Ortiz would be the first to do it because we all know Ortiz can just flat out box for a 75 year old geezer.

Despite his sloppy demeaner, Breazeale had put together a few decent moments, so I thought he had a small outside chance.

But I just knew Fury would beat him.

So you just wanted Wilder to lose huh

 

[TheNig]

So you just wanted Wilder to lose huh

Sure... We can go with that.

 

[Black_Jesus]

So you just wanted Wilder to lose huh

You know the dark skinned fighters get the most bizarre levels of hate

 

[NormanConnors]

Sure... We can go with that.

I see what your trying to do there

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

It's two completely different situations. But I think @TheNig is pretty much right. Yea people thought pac was going to win. But that was mainly casual fans who barely watched any boxing outside of Manny and Floyd fights. But if we're talking strictly hardcore fans, then it's not even close. Way more hardcore fans believed Spence would beat bud. You had hardcore fans who thought Spence would completely bulldoze bud and make him quit. While most hardcore fans knew Manny beating Floyd was a longshot.

Spence fans are taking this way worse because of how it happened. Spence didn't just get beaten. He got demolished. Destroyed. Obliterated. It's completely different to the phsyce of these stans than if Spence lost a close fight. They would be able to accept it better.

But for Spence to get beaten in such brutal fashion. For them them to be THAT wrong....it means they have to accept that they're boxing knowledge is questionable. And they can't do that. All of this outrage from Spence stans is 100% rooted in embarrassment and shame and nothing else. After years and years of slandering buds name and overlooking all of Spence's glaring flaws. They had to sit there in front of their families....who they had probably yapped to for months on end about how Spence was the golden child....and watch the man they despise, systematically annihilate him. This has nothing to with defending Errol Spence. It's about defending their own credibility as boxing fans. This shyt burns their soul to its core. And it will never go away. Errol Spence was supposed to be the terminator. And he didn't just get beat. He got outboxed. Out worked. And outdogged.

 

[TheNig]

I see what your trying to do there

Man...I ain't doing shyt. I'm chillin'.

 

[TheNig]

It's two completely different situations. But I think @TheNig is pretty much right. Yea people thought pac was going to win. But that was mainly casual fans who barely watched any boxing outside of Manny and Floyd fights. But if we're talking strictly hardcore fans, then it's not even close. Way more hardcore fans believed Spence would beat bud. You had hardcore fans who thought Spence would completely bulldoze bud and make him quit. While most hardcore fans knew Manny beating Floyd was a longshot.

Spence fans are taking this way worse because of how it happened. Spence didn't just get beaten. He got demolished. Destroyed. Obliterated. It's completely different to the phsyce of these stans than if Spence lost a close fight. They would be able to accept it better.

But for Spence to get beaten in such brutal fashion. For them them to be THAT wrong....it means they have to accept that they're boxing knowledge is questionable. And they can't do that. All of this outrage from Spence stans is 100% rooted in embarrassment and shame and nothing else. After years and years of slandering buds name and overlooking all of Spence's glaring flaws. They had to sit there in front of their families....who they had probably yapped to for months on end about how Spence was the golden child....and watch the man they despise, systematically annihilate him. This has nothing to with defending Errol Spence. It's about defending their own credibility as boxing fans. This shyt burns their soul to its core. And it will never go away. Errol Spence was supposed to the terminator. And he didn't just get beat. He got outboxed. Out worked. And outdogged.

That's why I said what I said. I honestly don't believe any fight has had such an impact on a single fanbase like this fight has on Spence fans.

"Crawford ain't shyt until he beats him at 154"


How does that even work considering neither of them have ever fought professionally at 154?

 

[Adonis]

I know how Spence fans feel. I've went through the same thing when Duran beat Leonard

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

That's why I said what I said. I honestly don't believe any fight has had such an impact on a single fanbase like this fight has on Spence fans.

"Crawford ain't shyt until he beats him at 154"


How does that even work considering neither of them have ever fought professionally at 154?

I've always said Errol would struggle at 154. There's a reason he stayed at 147 for so long. At 154 all of his physical advantages go away. At 147 he's a big guy. At 154 he's just regular. He stayed at 147 because he could hide all of his technical flaws by simply out muscling guys. It's the same reason porter went down to 147.

At 154 Spence would be food. Jermell woulda knocked him out. I think even tszu gives him a serious beating. Too much size and power.

 

[Black_Jesus]

I've always said Errol would struggle at 154. There's a reason he stayed at 147 for so long. At 154 all of his physical advantages go away. At 147 he's a big guy. At 154 he's just regular. He stayed at 147 because he could hide all of his technical flaws by simply out muscling guys. It's the same reason porter went down to 147.

At 154 Spence would be food. Jermell woulda knocked him out. I think even tszu gives him a serious beating. Too much size and power.

Spence started at 154 too.. like you said it's a reason he dropped to 147 early in his career and had he not waited 5 years to clean up a side of an imaginary street he wouldn't be in this position where his bad habits and lack of discipline caught up to him where now he crying about making weight

 

[baltimore]

I'm saying tho wilder fury 2 was a outlier in the trilogy.. fury came out with a whole new game plan and caught wilder off guard early and didn't let up..

Crawford also came out with a whole new game plan and caught spence early and didn't let up.. made up a whole new punch, didn't switch stances, didn't fight down to his opponents level for 7 rounds.. all shyt Crawford known for he didn't do

Spence tried to do him like ugas and porter but he was sharp and sound with Mikey.. maybe spence could box him down like that instead of not respecting Crawford at all

And the whole spence fans ain't know shyt about boxing would make more sense if any one group of people has predicted it would go like that.. Crawford and spence fans were shocked at that shyt then acted like we all should have known after

 

[UpAndComing]

I'm saying tho wilder fury 2 was a outlier in the trilogy.. fury came out with a whole new game plan and caught wilder off guard early and didn't let up..

Crawford also came out with a whole new game plan and caught spence early and didn't let up.. made up a whole new punch, didn't switch stances, didn't fight down to his opponents level for 7 rounds.. all shyt Crawford known for he didn't do

Spence tried to do him like ugas and porter but he was sharp and sound with Mikey.. maybe spence could box him down like that instead of not respecting Crawford at all

And the whole spence fans ain't know shyt about boxing would make more sense if any one group of people has predicted it would go like that.. Crawford and spence fans were shocked at that shyt then acted like we all should have known after

Sorry but this is pure COPE

Break down how Crawford's gameplan was different than his other fights? And not with baseless conjecture like "He plays down to his opponents for 7 rounds"