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[7/19] WWE Draft on Live Smackdown Thread - It's Time To Shake Things Up Again! (Live Updates in OP)
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Playaz Eyez
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Raw also has Big Show, Mark Henry, Golden Truth, Chris Jericho, and the Dudleyz, and still have Michael Cole announcing. They also have Brock, who may show up 3 more times this year
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The brand split will end with 'Heathpoint' after he uses New Day's time machine to go back in time and get drafted. But he changes the timeline irreparebly.....
maybe he can go back in time and become the one man band he always wanted to be?
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You're right on some accounts, but as long has Raw as Stephanie's on-screen presence, that automatically knocks it down
Why would Cesaro have more of a chance on SD, on the B show, with far fewer great talents to work with, with an already super thick glass ceiling separating the top guys from the mid card? This chosen one shyt has absolutely nothing to do with what he was complaining about. There are chosen ones on both shows and he's not any of them.
At least dude has a chance with his shytty promos when he's competing with Seth and Roman promos. Or you could send him to SD and have Cena and AJ eat him alive on the mic each week.
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At the end of the day, they want fans to watch both shows. I know they are completely separate and independent, but chances are if the RAW show was good and left you satisfied, you will check out Smackdown. Cena will carry the load ratings wise.
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they def have that influence. they wear a similar gear to the ring and they also do the thing where rick would run around and go under Scotts legs like a dog lol
1. List these great talents on Raw
2. He would have a better chance because Vince isn't as controlling of Smackdown as he is of Raw and history says so. Its the same reasons why Eddie, Edge, King Booker, JBL, John Cena, CM Punk, & Daniel Bryan all got a chance to grow into their characters and take that next step to show what they could do.
Besides Batista, who was made & became a star on Raw.......?
1. Rollins, Balor, Zayn, Owens, Neville, New Day, Anderson, the cruiserweights. Not all guys that I personally think are great, but seem to be pretty universally supported as high workrate talent.
2. Vince is controlling over everything. Dude was getting NXT finishes changed as recently as few weeks ago. He literally has the final say over everything. You're basing everything about the current split on the last one, which is silly since the rosters were actually even then and they had an actually need to split in the first place. Eddie/Edge getting pushes in 2002 on SD has nothing to do with Cesaro getting on on SD in 2016. At all.
Brehs are so fukking stuck on the idea of what SD was at the start of the original draft that they can't let go and see that this split is incredibly different on every level, that SD is stacked with almost all of the actually character gimmicks, and the gulf from top guy to mid card on SD is significantly larger than what it is on Raw.
That's not even that awful because you know the clash between steph and foley will be entertaining. Shane and Bryan will be going against uhhh AJ styles? It's just poorly thought out
1. All those guys you're on record shytting on are now suddenly "great" when you're trying to make a point. Typical
2. "As controlling" Read. Vince isn't at every smackdown. He's not micro managing the announcers, the writers, and the talent like he does on Raw. Which is straight from Heyman & Meltzer's mouths. We've seen guys step up & become stars on Smackdown. Aside from Batista, who has on Raw?
Cesaro would know better than you & i both and we heard it straight from his mouth.
1. Way to skip the part in my post where I said they weren't all guys that I personally enjoy, so you can make your point based on a show from 14 years ago. Typical.
2. Vince absolutely does micromanage Smackdown. fukking Dave Meltzer ran with reporting that AJPW opened up a free streaming service because dudes put a ton of matches up on Google Drive. And Heyman is a pathological liar who hasn't been involved in any kind of booking or writing capacity in well over a decade.
All I heard straight from Cesaro's mouth was him being upset about having to cut promos, since he sucks at them and won't put in the work to improve. Ironically said during a promo.
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That's what pissed me off. You present him as this beacon of change and fukk it all up. There was nothing but sabotage in the draft - for what reason I don't know. It's their own fukking television programming.
I'm the previous draft, SD was historically the trial run show. Get guys who wouldn't ordinarily get spotlight over and bring them to RAW come next draft. It's almost like they knew having KO, Zayn, Cesaro, Wyatt, Balor and a mix of Rollins/Ambrose in the main event scene would take shine from RAW so they fukked it up. shyts disgusting. No way you don't have this as your top 10 for both shows to level them out, keeping in mind the brands characters and context -
RAW -
Rollins
Reigns
Charlotte
Lesnar
New Day
Miz
Samoa Joe
Jericho
Orton
Cena
Smackdown
Ambrose
KO
Cesaro
Bray
AJ/Nakamura
Balor
Sasha
American Alpha
Rusev
Zayn
Establish one as your established stars, one with your underdog upstarts/future of the conpany. Build the stars, build or rebuild the fan base and get your money there.
Each show should have had a representation of one division to build and either make separate belts or exclusive to the show. Instead we get this mucked up shyt so RAW can remain the flagship in perception and SD gets this fukked mix and it's supposed to be legit because the World champ is on the show.
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