63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single

[Malcolmxxx_23]

You say this as if superficiality doesn't run dating. There is objectivity in everything, even "subjective" topics. If you don't know what qualifiers are for the top 20, again, this is wilfully obtuse.

The 80/20 rule was not taken from a dating site, it existed and was spoken on before that, the dating site study corroborated the theory. Also supported by the scientific study that 30% of men to walk the Earth have made a genetic contribution to the present human gene pool. Much closer to 80/20 than the "something for everyone" or "you don't try hard enough" talk.

And a survey of 1M+ plus women on the internet's leading dating site isn't trivial before you try that angle.

More coli doomer bullshyt that only sounds good to awkward depressed dudes looking for excuses to give up on talking to women

An outdated study from 2009 on OKCupid study where female users find 80% of male profiles "below average.

We talking about profiles …not real life human interaction

 

[Shadow King]

More coli doomer bullshyt that only sounds good to awkward depressed dudes looking for excuses to give up on talking to women

An outdated study from 2009 on OKCupid study where female users find 80% of male profiles "below average.

We talking about profiles …not real life human interaction

So you think in 14 years men magically became more desirable/attractive in the Hot Girl Summer/Where's The Real Men era? Or people became less intrinsically linked to online dating?

Niqqa please.

 

[EndDomination]

Civilization is a product of men channeling their sexual energy.

Civilization has become co-opted and centralized by the hands of bad actors

Bad actors repurposes males transmuted energy into funding a welfare state for themselves also creating an artificial middle class for women with fake jobs

Fake jobs are necessary since the deindustrialization of the economy, an economy now built on debt and consumption not production and equity. (Poor third world countries will do the heavy lifting on manufacturing and resource gathering for pennies on the dollar)

Women consume 4x more than men, hold 75% of debt and 80% of consumer purchases. Thus it is essential to get the money into woman’s hands somehow to fuel the ponzi economy

Two parasitic classes allied together, with mutual interest, one purposeful, the other a useful idiot, sucking and feasting until the host has little more to offer due to feeling deincentivized for reasons he probably doesn’t understand

This was purposeful and explains the gynocentric turn society has taken. The intelligent minded chess players hate women and their destructive nature but understand their utility so have been weaponized into destroying themselves and the foundations of a healthy society.

Dark ages occur when men don’t transmute their sexual energy

society is weak, mentally ill and vulnerable

mission accomplished

The facade is over and now the real fun begins

Turning what could be a good critique of late capitalism into some macho "sex energy" rant is kind of impressive

 

[Jaguar93]

More coli doomer bullshyt that only sounds good to awkward depressed dudes looking for excuses to give up on talking to women

An outdated study from 2009 on OKCupid study where female users find 80% of male profiles "below average.

We talking about profiles …not real life human interaction

Dudes will continue to sit in an echo chamber. Telling themselves that women don’t want the average man. Instead of going outside and talking to real people. Most of what women say online. Doesn’t hold no weight outside. There’s plenty of women with the average/square men. Go to any mall, grocery store, sporting event, restaurant, and movies. And tell me who y’all see majority of women hugged up with.

 

[Bumblebreh]

You say this as if superficiality doesn't run dating. There is objectivity in everything, even "subjective" topics. If you don't know what qualifiers are for the top 20, again, this is wilfully obtuse.

The 80/20 rule was not taken from a dating site, it existed and was spoken on before that, the dating site study corroborated the theory. Also supported by the scientific study that 30% of men to walk the Earth have made a genetic contribution to the present human gene pool. Much closer to 80/20 than the "something for everyone" or "you don't try hard enough" talk.

And a survey of 1M+ plus women on the internet's leading dating site isn't trivial before you try that angle.

Breh we are talking about a number that was backed by collected data. On a dating site and it is old data. A handsome guy with a good paying job is not going to do well on dating app if he takes bad pictures. Yes because men were enslaved, men had to fight wars. Smaller communities and the mortality rate was much higher. The modern man can reproduce freely.

What you are talking about is called hypergamy and mating selection. And hypergamy can still apply, but most women are not hard wired to be hypergamous. Now I will say the 20 percent rule is subjective, but to make it non subjective, I would say a man that is in the top 20 of earners is going to be seen as being more desirable on paper. Top 20 of earners is earning $130,545 a year. But the top 20 percent cannot compete with the top 10 percent. The top 10 percent cannot compete with the 1 percent.

 

[skyrunner1]

More coli doomer bullshyt that only sounds good to awkward depressed dudes looking for excuses to give up on talking to women

An outdated study from 2009 on OKCupid study where female users find 80% of male profiles "below average.

We talking about profiles …not real life human interaction

They stopped putting out data because of the pushback they got.. Everytime the dating sites put out info it shows how much worse it is based on the actual actions people take.. Christian Rudder was a co founder of ok cupid, he was the one publishing the data in that time '09-'11. IAC (under match group) bought it in 11. They ARE NOT publishing this data because they have HEAVY investment on keeping men paying big money with hope of dating, they own Match.com, Okcupid, Tinder, Hinge, Plenty of Fish, Black people meet, BLK, and like 40 other dating sites.

Christian Rudder also wrote Dataclysm a new york time best seller in late 2014 based on the data pulled from dating sites and online activity. He had direct access to the firehose of data and saw how people actions not just what they say..

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

So you think in 14 years men magically became more desirable/attractive in the Hot Girl Summer/Where's The Real Men era? Or people became less intrinsically linked to online dating?

Niqqa please.

You know what has changed last 14 years?
There were more women on dating apps back in 2010 then vs 2023
And you know what hasn’t changed? Men not fixing their dating profiles etc

 

[EndDomination]

Sometimes I wonder if these articles are to troll men in a way. they never tell the full story either . It just be women laughing in the comments . Their egos love these articles

Last week it was like more single women own houses then men and @bourgeoisie tall freak was having a victory lap . I entertained the thread at first but then I really thought about it for a while and was like do I even want a house ?

Why would a single , childless man buy a house . I rather have a penthouse with a view if I’m getting my bachelor on .

Single what ? Single by choice ? Or jacking off alone , rotation? It doesn’t really say . It just has the necessary headline

To build wealth and have equity.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Dudes will continue to sit in an echo chamber. Telling themselves that women, doesn’t want the average man. Instead of going outside, and talk to real people. Most of what theses women say online. Doesn’t hold no weight outside. There’s plenty of women with the average/square man. Go to any mall, grocery store, sporting event, restaurant, and movies. And tell me who y’all, see theses women hugged up on.

Exactly do muthafukkers live in the real world ????
None of that 80/20 rule
Your instagram followers/her followers
Her dms being flooded


None of that shyt matters when you have a women in front of you

Only thing that matters is your appearance
Are you creepy?
Can you carry a covo
You have social skills


Restaurants on weekends are flooded with folks on dates..regular people
Go to bars ..it’s packed with regular people/mingling dating etc
Movie theatres and so on

 

[Kiyoshi-Dono]

I asked what is the quality of women that would SHARE a man who works for FedEx.

Most women are not willingly sharing a man of that status unless they are coming UP by dating him. So what kind of woman is that?

And this ladies and gentlemen is the disconnect/delusion women live in
The simp nikkas that dapped you prove why the dating game/relationship game is all fukked up
Women who never had to build shyt trying to say what’s QUALITY and WHATS NOT
If we really keeping it a bean
Most women have no substance to even deem anything QUALITY in this world
Most of you don’t have hobbies
Interesting personalities
Cant hold a real conversation outside of bullshyt no nikka cares about
Even the men you call FRIENDS
Shallow as fukk
And only use your INCOME and DEGREES as your whole life or some fukk as animal no nikka gives a fukk about as well
Women don’t know shyt about men
Hell men don’t know shyt about other men
Which is clearly obvious in this thread of eunuch nikkas choking themselves out for a damsel in distress
I’ll even put it more bluntly
Hoes don’t want to be saved
Y’all just want to dictate the narrative and cry wolf every time a nikka seemingly does you wrong
It’s lawyers and doctors getting they p*ssy beat by career felons and 40 year old rappers
But a nikka working at the Post Office or FedEx
Has to prove his worth and never gets buns from quality women
This thread shows you who was really outside
And it also shows the game goofy men/women on this board

 

[Cloutius Maximus]

Exactly do muthafukkers live in the real world ????
None of that 80/20 rule
Your instagram followers/her followers
Her dms being flooded


None of that shyt matters when you have a women in front of you

Only thing that matters is your appearance
Are you creepy?
Can you carry a covo
You have social skills


Restaurants on weekends are flooded with folks on dates..regular people
Go to bars ..it’s packed with regular people/mingling dating etc
Movie theatres and so on

i wouldn't say it's 80/20 more like 100/60. I'd say there's a solid 30-40% of dudes not eating at all. Usually a combination of lack of social skills, super nerdy looking/ugly, lack of funds, lack of motivation, isolation, or being overworked and too tired to go out. Some of them could improve with a little (or a lot) of effort, but some of em are just hopeless. You see the men who are part of that 60% when you go out. Yes, the MAJORITY of men are still getting laid. The minority that can't get laid still amounts to MILLIONS of men, you don't see them because they are either sitting at home or scurrying past you on their way home with their head down. Millions of men not getting any sex is still a problem even if the majority of men are eating.

Back in my father's day it was maybe 5-10% of men not eating. When that number triples, society will feel it.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

i wouldn't say it's 80/20 more like 100/60. I'd say there's a solid 30-40% of dudes not eating at all. Usually a combination of lack of social skills, lack of funds, lack of motivation, isolation, or being overworked and too tired to go out. Some of them could improve with a little (or a lot of effort), but some of em are just hopeless. You see the men who are part of that 60% when you go out. Yes, the MAJORITY of men are still getting laid. The minority that can't get cheeks is still MILLIONS of men, you don't see them because they are either sitting at home or scurrying past you on their way home with their head down. Millions of men not getting any sex is still a problem even if the majority of men are eating.

I agree with everything but Those same men existed in 1992 ,1985 and so on
Everyone knows a male family member who sucked with women

In 2023 those men have access to internet where they can voice their displeasure and they the loudest
(Incels mgtow) etc

You either self improve and try or die alone

Fred

 

[Shadow King]

Breh we are talking about a number that was backed by collected data. On a dating site and it is old data. A handsome guy with a good paying job is not going to do well on dating app if he takes bad pictures. Yes because men were enslaved, men had to fight wars. Smaller communities and the mortality rate was much higher. The modern man can reproduce freely.

What you are talking about is called hypergamy and mating selection. And hypergamy can still apply, but most women are not hard wired to be hypergamous. Now I will say the 20 percent rule is subjective, but to make it non subjective, I would say a man that is in the top 20 of earners is going to be seen as being more desirable on paper. Top 20 of earners is earning $130,545 a year. But the top 20 percent cannot compete with the top 10 percent. The top 10 percent cannot compete with the 1 percent.

Yes it was backed by collected data. The collected data supports a rule you're fighting to disbelieve. Do you have "new" data to support an uptick of female opinions on men's profiles or men in general? I'm sure you don't, because A) data doesn't work in a way where surveys are given every other year or rendered obsolete and B) the new data wouldn't support your position anyway.

Yes, all those external factors existed, which I said in other threads, but again, this 1 to 1 shyt still wasn't going on, or was forced by families. Men being able to "reproduce freely" means so are woman, and the hypergamy you speak of is present, obviously not to the degree of animals with laws and complex social constructs, but it is present and growing.

Again, income is not the sole Top 20% factor, evident by this archetype/stereotype of modern men being high earners but nerdy/lacking masculinity, men going on dates but women running home talking about "he's nice but there's no spark", or men in relationships/marriages where they are essentially contracted sugar daddies.

You can continue being obtuse if you want as if there isn't a list of traits desired outside of money to make what's considered a complete package. The rule does not state that only 20% will sleep with a woman and 80% of men are doomed to be virgins, because modernity does alleviate some of the nature of the rule, but this crusade to "debunk" it is futile war.

Lol at women not being wired to be hypergamous.

You know what has changed last 14 years?
There were more women on dating apps back in 2010 then vs 2023
And you know what hasn’t changed? Men not fixing their dating profiles etc

And you think "more women" are going to find men attractive now?

Again, niqqa please.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Yes it was backed by collected data. The collected data supports a rule you're fighting to disbelieve. Do you have "new" data to support an uptick of female opinions on men's profiles or men in general? I'm sure you don't, because A) data doesn't work in a way where surveys are given every other year or rendered obsolete and B) the new data wouldn't support your position anyway.

Yes, all those external factors existed, which I said in other threads, but again, this 1 to 2 shyt still wasn't going on, or was forced by families. Men being able to "reproduce freely" means so are woman, and the hypergamy you speak of is present, obviously not to the degree of animals with laws and complex social constructs, but it is present and growing.

Again, income is not the sole Top 20% factor, evident by this archetype/stereotype of modern men being high earners but nerdy/lacking masculinity, men going on dates but women running home talking about "he's nice but there's no spark", or men in relationships/marriages where they are essentially contracted sugar daddies.

You can continue being obtuse if you want as if there isn't a list of traits desired outside of money to make what's considered a complete package. The rule does not state that only 20% will sleep with a woman and 80% of men are doomed to be virgins, because modernity does alleviate some of the nature of the rule, but this crusade to "debunk" it is futile war.

Lol at women not being wired to be hypergamous.

And you think "more women" are going to find men attractive now?

Again, niqqa please.

No Women are going to find men who make themselves attractive and who put themselves out there

Not a guy who has a picture from 2014 on his profile pic /and upclose selfie
And stays home all day swiping right and then will complain about not getting dates

 

[Shadow King]

i wouldn't say it's 80/20 more like 100/60. I'd say there's a solid 30-40% of dudes not eating at all. Usually a combination of lack of social skills, super nerdy looking/ugly, lack of funds, lack of motivation, isolation, or being overworked and too tired to go out. Some of them could improve with a little (or a lot) of effort, but some of em are just hopeless. You see the men who are part of that 60% when you go out. Yes, the MAJORITY of men are still getting laid. The minority that can't get laid still amounts to MILLIONS of men, you don't see them because they are either sitting at home or scurrying past you on their way home with their head down. Millions of men not getting any sex is still a problem even if the majority of men are eating.

Back in my father's day it was maybe 5-10% of men not eating. When that number triples, society will feel it.

This is the answer and in those next 2 tiers (2nd 20%, middle 20%) there is a range, all of the 60% isn't "eating" but will put in the work and jump through the hoops to end up with a woman, or latch on to the first okay woman there is and locks in. But Coli niqqas don't know what that man dealt with or deals with to have her with her at the Applebee's table or movie theater date they keep using as evidence.

The 20% are still the prize. The next 20% are enough for a woman to be fairly happy or can put in the work (play games) to play the field and "eat". The middle 20% are the guys married and getting sex 6-10 times a year and shyt and/or keeping a woman with money only. After that the bottom 40% is not getting it and that's a very large number.