50 Cent, Nelly & Ludacris..... WHO FELL OFF THE WORST?

[MiC]

50 cause his run was shortest and his peak was highest

 

[Champ_KW]

Nelly saw the top of the Billboard charts last year with Florida Georgia Line....

 

[Big Skilly Films]

it's because said rappers used to brag about being on top selling records when their competitions weren't, so now it's kinda backfire at them for talking slick.

as much as you guys hate on 50 he can still outsell luda & nelly with no problem... since you guys are going by record sells as your criteria on who fell off...

 

[scuba]

Honestly, if we want to judge in a metrics based way, its obviously nelly, because his last album sold as much as 50 cents last mixtape. No matter how you slice it, Nelly is not a star on his own anymore. If KRS One and Nelly released an album tomorrow, realistically I don't know who would sell more... which is ironic when you think about their feud. I always thought Nelly was wack, so I cant judge whether he fell off or didnt fall off from a music quality standpoint.

50 Cent biggest problem is he completely burned every kinda bridge you could possibly burn in the music industry, and fans no longer look at him as an underdog. Musically 50 Cent makes the same calibre songs as he has always made, they just dont turn into hits anymore... his last album sold a couple hundred thousand which is like 10 times more than nellys last album...

Luda actually shouldnt be on this list, luda hasnt really had a chance to prove he has fallen off or he still has appeal from a commercial standpoint. Musically his music took somewhat of a dive, but he has still had a couple hits under his own power recently...

 

[MiC]

it's American culture

i'm from here... but i've lived in london.. i've visited germany and york and ireland.. i've been to mexico and the carribean.... THEY STILL LOVE OUR OLD SCHOOL

they have the new stuff, but if you notice, most hot artists here, ain't doing no world tours, cause the world could give a fukk less about you

where 50 couldn't sell out the garden, but was doing 100k people at a show out in brazil and africa. just two years ago i personally witnessed him getting paid 700k for a show out in ireland.. packed to the tilt... but he couldn't do a nationwide tour here

i go overseas and see posters for biz markie and doug e fresh.. grandmaster flash... shyt cassidy was just getting paid shows in dubai.. when's the last time you seen a cassidy flyer out here?


they just respect legends in other cultures and respect hits and good music.. where in america we tend to be microwave.. soon as something else heats up, we throw that last food in the trash and pretend we never nuked it


and it ain't just rap... it's fashion, cars, haircuts... whatever... things in black america don't last very long before getting "played out"

where 50 couldn't sell out the garden, but was doing 100k people at a show out in brazil and Africa
If you're not much of a world traveler, and the only hip-hop industry you know is that which exists in the United States, it's easy to dismiss his argument as strictly a defensive one.
But piggybacking on this tour through South Africa and Tanzania, we were able to understand exactly what 50 Cent has meant all along. In his second show in Africa, nearly 15,000 people filled up one of Johannesburg's largest arenas to see him and G-Unit perform for nearly two hours. Two nights later, 10,000 people attended his Cape Town show. The crowds in both cities knew the words to everything, including 50 Cent's hit singles.......Even Jay-Z, who performed at the same makeshift arena in Dar es Salaam last year, drew half as many fans as G-Unit's 5,000, according to the local promoter.
------------------------This was from 2008, the height of 50 cent's international touring

i personally witnessed him getting paid 700k for a show out in ireland.. packed to the tilt
You forgot to mention that it was a festival with 10 other artsts
http://www.goldenplec.com/waterford-music-festival-2011-faithless-sound-system-joins-lineup/

most hot artists here, ain't doing no world tours, cause the world could give a fukk less about you
Drake, Jay Z, Kanye west, Eminem, lil wayne do stadium tours all the time in Europe. Many other rappers do club shows and small venues in europe

 

[Prae]

Nelly. Not only is he not selling anymore, but his music has sucked imo (haven't liked his stuff since Country Grammar). I don't think anyone is checking for him either.

50 still puts out good music and he still some fanbase that does check for his music. Luda still puts out some decent features and stuff, I thought he was alright on that Kelly Rowland track.

 

[Trapped]

I voted for Luda, because he actually had dope skills and killed almost every beat he came across.

50 and Nelly fell off if you're talking sales and popularity. Considering everything, Nelly actually had a pretty good run

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

i still think Nelly could sneak a hit out...

50 still has a loyal underground following

i'll say Luda because he deleted everything that was different and new about himself and just became another rapper dikkriding sounds/styles.

my vote: Luda...he cant come back from this.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

where 50 couldn't sell out the garden, but was doing 100k people at a show out in brazil and Africa
If you're not much of a world traveler, and the only hip-hop industry you know is that which exists in the United States, it's easy to dismiss his argument as strictly a defensive one.
But piggybacking on this tour through South Africa and Tanzania, we were able to understand exactly what 50 Cent has meant all along. In his second show in Africa, nearly 15,000 people filled up one of Johannesburg's largest arenas to see him and G-Unit perform for nearly two hours. Two nights later, 10,000 people attended his Cape Town show. The crowds in both cities knew the words to everything, including 50 Cent's hit singles.......Even Jay-Z, who performed at the same makeshift arena in Dar es Salaam last year, drew half as many fans as G-Unit's 5,000, according to the local promoter.
------------------------This was from 2008, the height of 50 cent's international touring

i personally witnessed him getting paid 700k for a show out in ireland.. packed to the tilt
You forgot to mention that it was a festival with 10 other artsts
http://www.goldenplec.com/waterford-music-festival-2011-faithless-sound-system-joins-lineup/

most hot artists here, ain't doing no world tours, cause the world could give a fukk less about you
Drake, Jay Z, Kanye west, Eminem, lil wayne do stadium tours all the time in Europe. Many other rappers do club shows and small venues in europe

you're missing my point.. it was a festival with 10 artist... but he was the headliner and HE got paid 700k for ONE show... find me some other artists pulling down 700k for one show that are considered falling off

same with your last point... you just named the 5 highest selling artists out right now.. of course they doing stadium tours in europe... THEY HOT RIGHT NOW... so if 50 is on the nelly, luda level, he shouldn't still be doing these type of shows/tours... you don't see french montana, meek, ross, or any level b rappers doing european STADIUM tours... yea 2 chainz can come book some club in london for 20k... but can he fill up a stadium with 10k fans and get paid 150k for it, 40 times over the summer??


i'm not saying 50 is still big... i'm not even saying he gets that today... i was just answering a question of why our legends fade so quickly... and i'm saying that they don't... just here they do... in other countries, people are still paying top dollar and filling seats, to see legends from 80s, 90s and 00s rap. just google overseas money and rap... every rapper from level d to level a will say they enjoy that money more and the fans support more

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

it's because said rappers used to brag about being on top selling records when their competitions weren't, so now it's kinda backfire at them for talking slick. Specially for 50 because he mocked so hard on fat joe, game or jada about his sales. He used to mock on Nasir forgetting Nas was in since 91 and droppin his 7th album when it was only his second album and first multi platinum cd. When you put all your strengh into sells capacities instead of taking care of your music legacy and building a loyal fan base, this is what happens. On a personnal level 50 is rich no doubt about it, but on the musical side we barely remembers his songs, we will just refering his gunit dominance era but that's it. He will not be embrassed like Nas or Jay are 20 years after their first cd's dropped


Also a lot of theses rappers thought the great idea was to drop a cd every year and a half making their music look like fast food and not taking their time cooking something valuable and accumulating experiences. So instead of being awaited and cultivate a certain anticipation, they became boring, overwhelming and predictable, and they gave all they have to give like candles burning fast. In other genras a group like Sade can drop just one or two cd per decade and still be relevant

i'd agree with this back in the day... but jay-z was knowing for dropping every year for his first 6-7 albums... wayne literally had 100 features in one year during carter 2, not to mention all the mixtapes he put out, plus the unofficial ones.. nicki on her 3rd album in like 5 years.. kanye on about his 5-6th album and about to drop another... ross on his 5-6th album, plus mmg albums and all his features


nowadays you gotta stay in the mix cause people will damn sure forget about you quick and move on to the next hot rapper

 

[Alexander Wiggin]

i'd agree with this back in the day... but jay-z was knowing for dropping every year for his first 6-7 albums... wayne literally had 100 features in one year during carter 2, not to mention all the mixtapes he put out, plus the unofficial ones.. nicki on her 3rd album in like 5 years.. kanye on about his 5-6th album and about to drop another... ross on his 5-6th album, plus mmg albums and all his features


nowadays you gotta stay in the mix cause people will damn sure forget about you quick and move on to the next hot rapper

yeah but look at where they at now, jay runned out of things to talk about, wayne is burned out, nowadays a carreer is like 5 years of limelight and then they are struggling

 

[MiC]

you're missing my point.. it was a festival with 10 artist... but he was the headliner and HE got paid 700k for ONE show... find me some other artists pulling down 700k for one show that are considered falling off

same with your last point... you just named the 5 highest selling artists out right now.. of course they doing stadium tours in europe... THEY HOT RIGHT NOW... so if 50 is on the nelly, luda level, he shouldn't still be doing these type of shows/tours... you don't see french montana, meek, ross, or any level b rappers doing european STADIUM tours... yea 2 chainz can come book some club in london for 20k... but can he fill up a stadium with 10k fans and get paid 150k for it, 40 times over the summer??


i'm not saying 50 is still big... i'm not even saying he gets that today... i was just answering a question of why our legends fade so quickly... and i'm saying that they don't... just here they do... in other countries, people are still paying top dollar and filling seats, to see legends from 80s, 90s and 00s rap. just google overseas money and rap... every rapper from level d to level a will say they enjoy that money more and the fans support more

Post a link to 50 getting paid 700k. Also post a link to other stadium shows 50 has done the past few years. You are making claims (amount paid, and that it happens on a recurring basis) with no evidence. 50 hasn't filled a venue of more than a few thousand people for years outside attending multi-artist festivals here and there and a couple uk arenas.

Post some links

 

[King Sun]

ludacris.....



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[ucanthandlethetruth]

Let me ask a serious question here.

How come in other genres when artists/singers/bands fall off they get looked back upon with greatness but in rap we gotta dog em for it.

Like how come no one got at Motley Crue when they fell off. How come they could continue to live off their stretch even though they stopped puttin out chart topping music. Meanwhile a dude like 50 who was at one point the biggest hit maker in rap for like a solid 2-3 years... he couldn't pack the house today if he tried. fukkin Nelly performed at the SUPER BOWL.

Nah. Instead we gotta laugh at em. Haha 50. You fell off. You ain't popular no more. I guess I can't fukk wit your music.

I wonder what would really happen if Jay stopped being popular. You think nikkas would still check for his music? You think he'd still be able to pack out arenas? When there's a proven track record of that NEVER HAPPENING BEFORE in rap?

Maybe Jay knew the key to longevity was by staying popular?

Wow now that you think about it Jay really is the GOAT. You could argue whether or not he's the greatest lyricist in rap but you can't argue whether or not he's the greatest HUSTLER in rap. So what this nikka do? He comes in the game and flips it. He stops makin it about who the best. He starts makin it about the one area no one could beat him in. Who the best hustler is.

GOD MC or DEVIL MC??? Or both???

pos rep....this mental state of hip hop is why we wont win going forward. the people who try to shyt on the vets usually are the clowns who aspire to dikkride on some follower shyt.... how many times have you seen some poster equate such n such aint shyt cause he aint on the radio

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

the correct answer is neither. Luda can make a hit when he wants, it's just that the label is probably holding him back. As a matter a fact, if they would have pushed that single he came out with Kelly Rowland "Representing" i think it's called, then that would have hit top 10 for sure. Nelly had a hit being feature on a country song last year, and 50 had interscope holding him back, if anything if he would have dropped albums constantly after 09 he would still do numbers. Most of the time it's not the artist being "Lazy" or "Falling off" it's just that the labels are strong arming them and not giving them the proper release date/album schedule/proper push on these projects. It's actually the labels that treat them like fast food once they get a certain amount of hits with their catalogue, after that, they pretty much don't care for anything else. Jay was smart in the fact that he bought out his album (Blueprint 3) and didn't have to deal with the politics in def jam and found a better situation on live nation. That's exactly what 50 is doing except a little late. Luda should just move to a better situation period.

my man c-styles schooling nikkas thats whats up