50 Cent Explores Alternate Outcome To 2007 Sales Battle With Kanye West
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If 50’s nothing else he’s a pragmatist…how couldn’t he know that firmly stating “It’s impossible for Kanye West to sell more records than 50 Cent. If he does I will retire, it’s not going to happen” is just gonna make people who don’t even like/know Kanye go buy his album…and/or purposely not buy yours? Just to prove you wrong. There’s no way he didn’t know that. Maybe he figured that even that wouldn’t be enough? 
. It was a win/win for Kanye West…that’s not 50’s style lol, he got paid heavy by someone to partake in this for Kanye.
. It was a win/win for Kanye West…that’s not 50’s style lol, he got paid heavy by someone to partake in this for Kanye.If 50’s nothing else he’s a pragmatist…how couldn’t he know that firmly stating “It’s impossible for Kanye West to sell more records than 50 Cent. If he does I will retire, it’s not going to happen” is just gonna make people who don’t even like/know Kanye go buy his album…and/or purposely not buy yours? Just to prove you wrong. There’s no way he didn’t know that. Maybe he figured that even that wouldn’t be enough?
I think he knew that, but participating in that battle probably got him more numbers than he would've gotten without the battle. 50 was running on fumes and "I Get Money" and "AYO Technology" got him a solid release date. His singles were flopping before that. The album kept getting pushed back and even went through multiple album titles.
True…but if he really felt like he was running on fumes like that I doubt he would have been making the extreme proclamations that he was making lol. “I’ll retire if he sells more, it’s not possible” type shhit…you’re just setting yourself up to look stupid and wrong, lol. Unless, of course, he wanted to actually retire…why he didn’t,
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“He keeps it real though”
True…but if he really felt like he was running on fumes like that I doubt he would have been making the extreme proclamations that he was making lol. “I’ll retire if he sells more, it’s not possible” type shhit…you’re just setting yourself up to look stupid and wrong, lol. Unless, of course, he wanted to actually retire…why he didn’t,
Those extremae proclamations was part of the hype. It gets his fan base to come out if they don't want him to retire. He said the same thing about Massacre that if he sold 1 record less than GRODT with Massacre, it was a wrap. It sold like 4-5 million less. 50 was still rapping.
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his ego and meglomania made him believe he couldn't loseTrue…but if he really felt like he was running on fumes like that I doubt he would have been making the extreme proclamations that he was making lol. “I’ll retire if he sells more, it’s not possible” type shhit…you’re just setting yourself up to look stupid and wrong, lol. Unless, of course, he wanted to actually retire…why he didn’t,
you see how shook he was after... dude got humbled.... he didn't think kanye could fukk with him
fukk kanye now. he a lame.... but back then.... the better music won
The same Waka Flocka that career died out in 2012? The same Chief Keef that left Chicago for LA and left Drill Music behind in 2015? The point is, all of those sub movements flamed out and died QUICK. Kanye was still there and screwed himself over with the excess c00nery much later.
Yes, Graduation did shift Hip Hop, but it wasn't what people are making out to be. This album didn't influence people to go college or really cause this seismic shift in fashion. What it did do is usher in this whole new wave of rap superstars that weren't necessarily "street dudes". It didn't end street rap because artists there was still T.I., Jeezy, Rick Ross, and Gucci Mane. Thing is, Kanye had influence on those artists too. They got him for features after Graduation.
In terms of fashion, the late '00's were all over the place. There were these huge white tees and baggy jeans. You had dudes dressing like Pharrell and Lupe Fiasco. The skater look was big. There was the skinny jeans.
In terms of fashion, the late '00's were all over the place. There were these huge white tees and baggy jeans. You had dudes dressing like Pharrell and Lupe Fiasco. The skater look was big. There was the skinny jeans.
Canada Goose
Pooping on your head :umad:
I was a HUGE 50 stan from 03-05 and by the time this sales battle happened I was rooting for Ye to win 
Graduation was the better album by a landslide but Curtis had its moments... The hook on Fully Loaded Clip is Touch the Sky and All of Me was dope songs as was Ayo Technology and the Robin Thicke song, everything else was 
There was a song on the Curtis album that had Young Buck and the lead singer of the p*ssycat dolls on the same song 
Smile was a classic song but it didn't make the album
Graduation was the better album by a landslide but Curtis had its moments... The hook on Fully Loaded Clip is
Touch the Sky and All of Me was dope songs as was Ayo Technology and the Robin Thicke song, everything else was There was a song on the Curtis album that had Young Buck and the lead singer of the p*ssycat dolls on the same song Smile was a classic song but it didn't make the album
That Fire song you talking about with Buck make believe 50 is right about his album being sabotagedI was a HUGE 50 stan from 03-05 and by the time this sales battle happened I was rooting for Ye to win
Graduation was the better album by a landslide but Curtis had its moments... The hook on Fully Loaded Clip is
Smile was a classic song but it didn't make the album
Biscayne
Ocean air
How did Flocka or keef get big in the first place if there was no market for it after Kanye “killed gangster rap”?
Why did Kanye hop on the “don’t like” remix?
Kanye’s music didn’t change the trajectory or ultimate outcome of the hood or what ppl decided to rap about. It opened a new lane, but it didn’t change anything. You’re conflating Kanye providing a lane for those who wanted to go down a more “vulnerable creative” route, with Kanye “shifting the culture”. Music won’t change shyt. Policy does. Ppl will rap about what they see.
Kanye influenced Drake and made things easy for a Drake to takeover. But even a Drake who was going multi platinum off of nothing was the same, still became progressively “harder” in his tone, rap, delivery and features. Think about it. Even a Drake who has success doing that vulnerability cosplay, was still tired of being seen as the “forlorn” sad guy. Street stuff will always have an allure until the things change.
50 is still bitter because his career in the limelight didn’t last that long, he basically had like a 5 year(3 album) run if we are being honest,
Iverson_64
Superstar
I don't know. I feel this is a bit revisionist.
I very clearly remember how there was a dramatic decline in how dominant street rap was in the mainstream until Meek and Chief Keef brought it back to life in the early 2010's. And, even then, it still got vastly overshadowed by the more poppier or alternative style of rap that Kanye and Wayne paved the way for.
The whole "Big 3" movement as well as the artists get promoted on blogs like ASAP Rocky, Chance The Rapper, Joey Badass, Wale, Wiz, Odd Future, etc. felt like an evolution of what Kanye was paving the way for in the mainstream after beating 50 Cent. The overall aesthetic of mainstream rap changed from looking street/hood to looking more hipster or suburban.
Honestly, until the rise of New York and UK Drill at the end of the 2010's, it really did seem like gangsta rap was in the corpse in mainstream rap.
