30+ Brehs… What’s up with these old chicks wanting babies?

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“A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy of having the impression of refuting an argument, whereas the real subject of the argument was not addressed or refuted, but instead replaced with a false one. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be ‘attacking a straw man’”


I don’t think I’ve seen anybody arguing that a woman who had a kid after marriage in their 20’s is an “irresponsible hoe”. Anybody that would actually think that way is a complete moron.


Can you show me some specific examples of that type of rhetoric in this thread?
Exactly, cat is just pulling shyt of his/her ass. :pachaha:If anything what Coli brehs have been advocating is for women to take relationships in their 20s/early 30s more seriously and start families with quality men. Don't be having kids with multiple ain't shyt dudes, and don't wait until your late 30s to start taking relationships seriously when you had suitors 10 years earlier. It's not rocket science.
 

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Exactly, cat is just pulling shyt of his/her ass. :pachaha:If anything what Coli brehs have been advocating is for women to take relationships in their 20s/early 30s more seriously and start families with quality men. Don't be having kids with multiple ain't shyt dudes, and don't wait until your late 30s to start taking relationships seriously when you had suitors 10 years earlier. It's not rocket science.


Exactly. Life happens of course, but what you outlined seems to be more of a solid plan than women planning to catch a Hail Mary in their mid to late 30s. That’s all.

But of course, folks always gotta make dudes out to be controlling, abusive, misogynistic villains that are dead set on shytting on women no matter what they do.

I think if they can convince themselves that men as a whole are terrible and only offering women a lose/lose proposal regardless of what they do, then it makes whatever decisions they make seem much more palatable :yeshrug:
 

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I was feeling down as hell last year with the lockdowns. I took a chance and shot my shot with my high school crush.

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She still looks good.

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Had the opportunity to get back with my HS sweetheart before the pandemic . A mutual friend was trying to hook us up. I wasn’t interested at that time cuz I had another shorty I was fw heavy.

She looks amazing:mjcry: one of those girls who was always cute even as a teen but is just now growing into her woman look at 23/24. Definitely an L on my behalf, she just graduated nursing school.
 

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Exactly, cat is just pulling shyt of his/her ass. :pachaha:If anything what Coli brehs have been advocating is for women to take relationships in their 20s/early 30s more seriously and start families with quality men. Don't be having kids with multiple ain't shyt dudes, and don't wait until your late 30s to start taking relationships seriously when you had suitors 10 years earlier. It's not rocket science.

Exactly. Life happens of course, but what you outlined seems to be more of a solid plan than women planning to catch a Hail Mary in their mid to late 30s. That’s all.

But of course, folks always gotta make dudes out to be controlling, abusive, misogynistic villains that are dead set on shytting on women no matter what they do.

I think if they can convince themselves that men as a whole are terrible and only offering women a lose/lose proposal regardless of what they do, then it makes whatever decisions they make seem much more palatable :yeshrug:
At what point does the fact that black women significantly outnumber black men in this country taken into account? And out of those available black men, many of them in their prime have no desire to settle down with one woman. If every single black woman of marrying age did what you guys are saying, there would still be a large number of them shyt out of luck.
 

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At what point does the fact that black women significantly outnumber black men in this country taken into account? And out of those available black men, many of them in their prime have no desire to settle down with one woman. If every single black woman of marrying age did what you guys are saying, there would still be a large number of them shyt out of luck.


I got a little time today so I'll bite. The whole "black women outnumber black men" narrative is completely overblown when it comes to dating and marriage.

If you go to google and type in "black male population in us" you'll get 19.9 million (they're pulling from census data btw). And before you talk about the black men that are in jail, I'll adjust for those numbers. The total prison population for all races combined in late 2020 was about 1.8 million (source). The percentage of the male prison population that's black varies depending on your sources, but let's say it's about 38% (source). 38% of 1.8 mil is 684k black men in jail. So subtract 684k from the previous 19.9 million and you have 19.2 million free available black men.

The black female population in the US is about 21.72 million. So overall black women outnumber free black men by ~ 2.5 million. 2.5 mil/21.72 mil = 11.6%. So 11.6% of black women aren't finding a man if every single black woman is wifed up. We'll round it up and say 12 out of every 100 black women won't have a man, it's not like that's some insane number. 88% of black women still being able to find a marriage is pretty damn high. And more importantly, that would be more than double the current black female marriage rate.

For comparison, there are 9.416 million asian women and 8.514 asian men, about a 900k difference. 900k/9.416 million = 0.0955 = 9.5%. So basically around 10 out of 100 asian women wouldn't have a man if they all got married to one another. so 10 out of 100 vs 12 out of 100 for asian and black women respectively, that's not a very significant difference. But yet, ~60% of asian women 16 and older are married whereas ~30% of black women 16 and older are married (source, check the graph labeled "percentage of women currently married"). So look at what we're seeing here. Asian women and black women are damn near even in terms of outnumbering their men, but yet black women are still married at essentially HALF the rate asian women are married.

That alone is enough evidence to prove that "outnumbering" their men is NOT the reason so many black women are out here unmarried. We gotta stop with this "not enough black men" false narrative.

And lastly, in regards to the whole black men don't want to settle down, bruh, you do realize black women are basically the creators of the whole strong independent woman that doesn't need a man mantra right? Black women have been running with that for years. I won't for a second sit here and act like all these brothers are marriage minded and/or marriage material, and in turn all I ask is you please do not sit here and act like all these sisters are marriage minded and/or marriage material either, it cuts both ways.

So bottomline, "there ain't enough black men" is a weak narrative that doesn't at all explain why black marriage rates are so low, and there are plenty of black women out here who move like settling down clearly isn't a priority for them as well (until they start hitting those 30s that is....:francis:).
 

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Stop it. Black people can fukk and have 5 kids out of wedlock but they can’t get married? Because of racism? Y’all really dumb in here. Mexican immigrants out here picking fruit for a job and they married. Nikkas got excuses for everything. Want to get three different women pregnant but buying a ring is out of question. Nikka stop it.

I never said it was strictly because of racism. You said "Other races do it everyday. How come they find their significant others in college or right after college but we can’t?" as if we all start on equal footing. Meanwhile we have none of the advantages "other races" have on a large scale. Half the reason our people remain trapped in poverty is because we have kids before we should and lack the community structures and support systems that other races have and benefit from.

Anyway, either you only read the part of my post that was in direct response to you, or you had a point you wanted to make regardless so instead of reading what I said you nosedived into the reply button. Cause at no point did I make excuses for nikkas impregnating a bunch of women and having kids out of wedlock. My entire post was about why having kids before you're ready either mentally or financially is a huge mistake.

But these are two separate arguments that you're conflating.
 

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Dude that doesn't have kids and doesn't plan on having kids giving advice to women about how and when they should have kids :dead:

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Don't wanna get married, don't wanna have kids and steady tryna get other nikkas to move the same cause we #GMB and #HOH over here, but preaching about how there's all these stable, capable men in their 20s for young women to choose from :comeon:.
 

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“A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy of having the impression of refuting an argument, whereas the real subject of the argument was not addressed or refuted, but instead replaced with a false one. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be ‘attacking a straw man’”


I don’t think I’ve seen anybody arguing that a woman who had a kid after marriage in their 20’s is an “irresponsible hoe”. Anybody that would actually think that way is a complete moron.


Can you show me some specific examples of that type of rhetoric in this thread?
The running theme on thecoli is #GMB. Don't settle down until you at least 35, don't wife a professional chick since she's all about her degrees, etc. So the idea that there's all these eligible well-to-do black men available to marry and start a family with at 27-28 isn't adding up
 

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The running theme on thecoli is #GMB. Don't settle down until you at least 35, don't wife a professional chick since she's all about her degrees, etc. So the idea that there's all these eligible well-to-do black men available to marry and start a family with at 27-28 isn't adding up

I got multiple real friends in real life that are black professionals, college educated, and got married in their 20s. A bunch of them are divorced already, which begs the question that maybe being GMB actually would’ve been better for them, but the fact still stands that they were not on some GMB shyt in their 20s and they made those vows and signed those papers.

Also if they’re saying settle down at 35, wouldn’t those be the guys that the 27-28s would go for?

But imo anybody can say anything online, I take online talk with a grain of salt. Some folks are clowning, some are dap fishing, some folks are talking shyt because they just haven’t met the right chick at which point they’ll switch up (seen this with my own eyes in real life with real life friends) and some are dead serious, but it’s hard to accurately draw real life conclusions from the coli.
 
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