3/16 SHO PPV: Errol Spence vs. Mikey Garcia fight is ON! (IBF Welterweight Title)

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Have you ever stepped in a ring? Man is where the posters that know real boxing. Errol Is gonna FUKK Bud Crawford up its more of a chance he get knocked out than Mikey. Break his ass down and make him quit. One day yall gonna realize Errol is just different. Yall always say what some fighter gonna do to him how they so good in this and that..but never what Erol gonna do to said fighter. Bud is good.. Errol will be an all time great
Sorry friend the “you need to have boxed to analyze boxing” is a dead dead dead argument, only used by people who are desperate. For example I’ve been in the ring, @Yuzo at one point in his life was a trainer, and we both whiffed on this one. Does that make our boxing analysis any less sound? No. In fact I’m sure if you went up and down the list of people you get boxing news/stuff from, many of them have never boxed before.
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Alexander on Garcia's Loss: There Are Weight Classes For a Reason
By Radio Rahim

Former two division champion Devon Alexander was ringside on Saturday night at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, as he watched IBF world champion Errol Spence retain his welterweight crown with a twelve round domination of Mikey Garcia.

Garcia, who holds the WBC world title at 135-pounds, was moving up by two weight divisions to take the fight with Spence.

Spence felt Garcia out in the first few rounds, but then appeared to take over the entire fight by the fourth round.

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After the tenth round, Garcia's corner threatened to stop the fight but allowed him to finish the final two rounds.

Alexander felt Garcia bit off more than he could chew by fighting against a big welterweight like Spence.

"To Garcia's credit, in the beginning he utilized things, he was confusing [Spence] a little bit with the jab and offsetting him with the movement, but ultimately Errol was just too big, too long, had too much firepower, he was just too big," Alexander told BoxingScene.com.

"But I give Garcia credit though, he was still trying [to win]. He learned from [that loss] and there are weight classes for a reason. You have to respect all weight classes. He just has to go back to his weight. He's small, he's too small. I think at 140 he could be awesome."

Alexander believes there are several fighters at 147 who can give Spence a tough fight, but he admits it won't be easy to defeat the former United States Olympian.

"Anybody can be beaten on any given day. Keith Thurman can give him a run, Porter would give him a good fight. In my opinion, I think you have to be in shape to fight Errol for twelve rounds. You have to be ready to fight him for twelve rounds. If you're in shape to box, to throw smart punches, you can beat Errol," Alexander said.

"Right now, I would say [Spence is the best pound for pound], because he beat Mikey and Mikey was a beast. I think so."
 

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Mikey went for the check, point blank...and why not?

Mikey didn't chase Spence for the check

He believed the critics and goofies who constantly diminish Spence's skillset

Mikey went in the ring believing Spence was a bruiser with little head movement

Mikey thot him being much better than Brook, he'd counter Spence aplenty

But Mikey left the ring knowing he was dominated in every facet

Spence completely nullified his offense and was still going for the KO

Mikey was left helpless

We haven't seen that done to a legit top 3 P4P fighter in a looooong time



Spence is #2 p4p right now behind Canelo to me. If the Spence that fought Mikey last night fights Crawford.....welll if they fight :yeshrug:

Spence gotta be #1

Canelo is a drug cheat who hasn't decisively won a big fight

No one on the P4P list has looked as dominant vs a high level of comp like Spence has
 

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Mikey didn't chase Spence for the check

He believed the critics and goofies who constantly diminish Spence's skillset

Mikey went in the ring believing Spence was a bruiser with little head movement

Mikey thot him being much better than Brook, he'd counter Spence aplenty

But Mikey left the ring knowing he was dominated in every facet

Spence completely nullified his offense and was still going for the KO

Mikey was left helpless

We haven't seen that done to a legit top 3 P4P fighter in a looooong time





Spence gotta be #1

Canelo is a drug cheat who hasn't decisively won a big fight

No one on the P4P list has looked as dominant vs a high level of comp like Spence has

I remember people here excusing GGG for fighting Kell Brook because he was a “big welterweight” whatever the fukk that means. After that fight he was called P4P if I’m not mistaken. So you’re right, this should move Errol right up there. He’s ducked like GGG fans were cryin about and now he blanked a P4P fighter.

Funny how nikkas act when that HBO train ain’t behind a fighter.
 

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Anybody can be beaten on any given day. Keith Thurman can give him a run,

Telling ya'll, Thurman is big enough but more importantly athletic enough to give Spence a run for his money. It's going to be one of those things where being criticized with names like Run Time will be a blessing. And he can hit hard enough to keep Spence honest.
 

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nobody knows anything we all take the knowledge we have and make guesses based on our experience etc and if you think you know more than everyone else eventually you'll meet a nikka in the ring that will learn your ass :dame:

god help if you if that nikka is a body puncher :whew:


This your own insecurities fam speak for yourself
 

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Sorry friend the “you need to have boxed to analyze boxing” is a dead dead dead argument, only used by people who are desperate. For example I’ve been in the ring, @Yuzo at one point in his life was a trainer, and we both whiffed on this one. Does that make our boxing analysis any less sound? No. In fact I’m sure if you went up and down the list of people you get boxing news/stuff from, many of them have never boxed before.
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It's always the dudes who are barely seen in here that wanna throw around "you never boxed before"shyt. Smh

My grandparents had boxing equipment so I been boxing since I was young. Did real training in my teens for a year and a half. I always knew my hands were good. But going through real training I knew this sport wouldn't be kind to me:francis:...... still remember the day my trainer got in the ring with me. This dude was like mid 40's with a beer belly. He gave me that work. Just toyed with me. I couldn't even touch him:mjcry:......that shyt humbled me like nothing else. I got a lot better after this, but still. The difference between regular dudes and the pro's is like the difference between me and steph curry.

But it don't matter how much you boxed, you're never gonna get shyt all right. Sugar ray leonard who's one of the GOATS even got this fight dead wrong. That's why boxing is the best sport. You never know what's gonna happen. Even If you get 80% of your shyt right, I think that's impressive:yeshrug:
 

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While I agree Packeyows fall off has been greatly exaggerated I don't think he'd fair as well against Spence as you do...Spence size advantage, specifically his reach is a big problem, one that Mikey couldn't overcome and hes a better technical boxer than Packeyow...

While Manny handspeed is still blistering he is in his 40s...He will need alot of movement to get inside of Spence jab and it's been pretty apparent he doesn't have that bounce in his step anymore...I think the longer this fight goes on, the more it will mirror what saw Saturday night...
Ok so I got high as fukk and rewatched the fight. This time I really focused on spence. I had em at an A+ on first watch, but after a rewatch I gotta move em to an A-. I overlooked some of the mistakes on first watch because it was such a domination. But you can still see that spence has some major flaws. He still loads up too much on some of his punches and throws super wide at times. A fast puncher would be able to come right up the middle and tag him when he does this. And he still has a tendency of leaning in and becoming off balanced when he throws. Especially when he goes to the body. He leaves himself WIDE open to an overhand right. Mikey just wasn't fast enough to exploit that. It would be a different story vs crawford. Even Thurman. Spence still has to tighten up that defense something serious. The wide punches and leaning in could be disastrous vs a bigger guy with elite speed.

After rewatch I think I still got tcraw as the favorite. His hand speed and counter punching will be the difference imo. Tcraw makes you pay for damn near every mistake you make in the ring. Still a 50-50 fight because we've never seen tcraw in there with a huge guy who won't stop. But I think Crawfords has the right combination of skills to exploit spences flaws.


And yea the main thing with the Pacquiao fight is spences length. That's why I think it'll be a battle of length vs speed. But I just think manny has the experience to hold his own against anybody. Spence is most definitely the favorite but I just cant see pac getting destroyed. He'll give Spence some shyt he's never seen before. And that's why it'll be a great experience for spence. He needs a fight like this to take his game to a new level.
 

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I understand why Spence thanked mikey for the opportunity. This fight officially made spence a household name. Dude is a star and the biggest name at 147 besides pac. I Bet anything the ratings for his next cable telecast are gonna be through the roof. He's must see from now on. Saturday prolly converted a lot of people to the sport. And people who stopped watching are probably gonna wanna jump back in now. They now witnessed how great this new generation of fighters are.

I think that's the only reason spence didnt go for the knockout....just out of respect. He wanted to let mikey finish on his feet. He had mikey in trouble plenty of times. If he wanted to finish it he could have.
 

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Ok so I got high as fukk and rewatched the fight. This time I really focused on spence. I had em at an A+ on first watch, but after a rewatch I gotta move em to an A-. I overlooked some of the mistakes on first watch because it was such a domination. But you can still see that spence has some major flaws. He still loads up too much on some of his punches and throws super wide at times. A fast puncher would be able to come right up the middle and tag him when he does this. And he still has a tendency of leaning in and becoming off balanced when he throws. Especially when he goes to the body. He leaves himself WIDE open to an overhand right. Mikey just wasn't fast enough to exploit that. It would be a different story vs crawford. Even Thurman. Spence still has to tighten up that defense something serious. The wide punches and leaning in could be disastrous vs a bigger guy with elite speed.

After rewatch I think I still got tcraw as the favorite. His hand speed and counter punching will be the difference imo. Tcraw makes you pay for damn near every mistake you make in the ring. Still a 50-50 fight because we've never seen tcraw in there with a huge guy who won't stop. But I think Crawfords has the right combination of skills to exploit spences flaws.


And yea the main thing with the Pacquiao fight is spences length. That's why I think it'll be a battle of length vs speed. But I just think manny has the experience to hold his own against anybody. Spence is most definitely the favorite but I just cant see pac getting destroyed. He'll give Spence some shyt he's never seen before. And that's why it'll be a great experience for spence. He needs a fight like this to take his game to a new level.

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Ok so I got high as fukk and rewatched the fight. This time I really focused on spence. I had em at an A+ on first watch, but after a rewatch I gotta move em to an A-. I overlooked some of the mistakes on first watch because it was such a domination. But you can still see that spence has some major flaws. He still loads up too much on some of his punches and throws super wide at times. A fast puncher would be able to come right up the middle and tag him when he does this. And he still has a tendency of leaning in and becoming off balanced when he throws. Especially when he goes to the body. He leaves himself WIDE open to an overhand right. Mikey just wasn't fast enough to exploit that. It would be a different story vs crawford. Even Thurman. Spence still has to tighten up that defense something serious. The wide punches and leaning in could be disastrous vs a bigger guy with elite speed.

After rewatch I think I still got tcraw as the favorite. His hand speed and counter punching will be the difference imo. Tcraw makes you pay for damn near every mistake you make in the ring. Still a 50-50 fight because we've never seen tcraw in there with a huge guy who won't stop. But I think Crawfords has the right combination of skills to exploit spences flaws.


And yea the main thing with the Pacquiao fight is spences length. That's why I think it'll be a battle of length vs speed. But I just think manny has the experience to hold his own against anybody. Spence is most definitely the favorite but I just cant see pac getting destroyed. He'll give Spence some shyt he's never seen before. And that's why it'll be a great experience for spence. He needs a fight like this to take his game to a new level.
Ya he didn’t pull off a Floyd performance but still good.

I find the manny vs Spence fight intriguing, but I think Spence will control the fight with the jab the whole fight, a good jab gives manny problems. If manny is able to get passed the jab he can win, manny feet, movement is still there, reflexes are slipping though.
 
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