3/16 SHO PPV: Errol Spence vs. Mikey Garcia fight is ON! (IBF Welterweight Title)

[LauderdaleBoss]

kirkland was very lucky in that molina fight...i still dont agree with that win..goldenboy more likely bailed him out on that one with the "technicality"..this is the only fight an ann wolfe trained kirkland legit lost to me

the canelo fight was ..its sad the cypher of fukkery was complete

Goldenboy bailing out Kirkland was them just cleaning up their own mistake. Like they always kept using Kirkland as an opponent even though his erratic upside would have been huge if they managed him better. I think Oscar and them legit caught feelings over that Angulo win and wanted to fukk James over ever since. You know boxing is petty like that.

 

[patscorpio]

I forgot berto lost the belt to ortiz first, floyd dropped belts so many times its hard to keep up when he was defending the belt or getting it back

but it don't change the fact guerrero was not too small for the 147 he just sucks, I mean he only just recently been stopped because of all the ass whoopings he took have compiled to the point where he not the same guy, but he was a durable at 147 coming up from lightweight

You dont have to tell me about ghost...I am the one who said for years he shouldn't be propped up as a good win/opponent for floyd at WW

@seemorecizzy can tell you that lol

 

[Bigblackted4]

You mean Canelo?

Didn't the Charlo twins leave when the split between Haymon/Schaefer and Oscar happened and Haymon left GBP and took a big part of its roster?

Rumor has it no, Mell stayed and thought he was getting Canelo but got fukked over and that’s when he asked for his release.

 

[patscorpio]

Goldenboy bailing out Kirkland was them just cleaning up their own mistake. Like they always kept using Kirkland as an opponent even though his erratic upside would have been huge if they managed him better. I think Oscar and them legit caught feelings over that Angulo win and wanted to fukk James over ever since. You know boxing is petty like that.

And the fukked up thing is Kirkland is in the bushes while Glen Tapia who is shot to pieces still fights...boxing is a sick business sometimes

 

[Champ_KW]

I'm sorry I misread your post, I thought you wrote 2 spots below spence. I read that wrong.
That said I have Bud as high as he is because he beat Horn for the WBO title.
So your crying about Horn makes no sense, seeing that atleast he won a fukking title in the division and has something to hang his hat on to show that he belongs.
What has Mikey done at 147. Please tell me.

Doesn't change the fact he's a career super lightweight. And you have him ranked right where you have Spence....all because he fought Horn?!?!?! You're not consistent with your narrative, which makes it seem like it's rooted in hate. Give Spence his propers and move along. Mikey was a serviceable opponent and propels him to bigger fights. Nobody is acting like this was the most dangerous fight in the world for Spence, but its a great win nonetheless. I just find it odd that most people going the "too small" route with Mikey, but in the same breath thinks a career super lightweight will be the fight that solidifies Spence's place in the welterweight division. Just be consistent.

 

[David_TheMan]

Doesn't change the fact he's a career super lightweight. And you have him ranked right where you have Spence....all because he fought Horn?!?!?! You're not consistent with your narrative, which makes it seem like it's rooted in hate. Give Spence his propers and move along. Mikey was a serviceable opponent and propels him to bigger fights. Nobody is acting like this was the most dangerous fight in the world for Spence, but its a great win nonetheless. I just find it odd that most people going the "too small" route with Mikey, but in the same breath thinks a career super lightweight will be the fight that solidifies Spence's place in the welterweight division. Just be consistent.

HOw is a he career jr. welter when he had more fights at lightweight?
On top of that, he proved he belonged at WW when he won a title and defended it at WW.
I have him ranked below Spence because he is right behind spence in terms of accmoplishment at WW.
You seem to not understand what WW rankings are, its about what you have done at WW, not career achievement.

I have and will give Spence his props, but Garcia isn't a legit WW opponent, so he gets no praise for doing what he is supposed to do and dominanting him.
Mikey isn't serviceable at all at WW and there is nothing he did at WW to even make that argument.
There is nothing great about a win over a guy who is a lightweight fighting his first fight at WW and most likely leaving and never fighting at WW again.

Also I don't say Bud will be a career fight for Spence. I literally said in my rankings who the career definiting fight is for him, its the true 147 champ in Keith Thurman.

So like I said initially, get out of your feelings.

 

[mr heyzel]

It’s crazy after this mismatch last night a lot of fools on these fb groups are picking Errol to just walk all over Crawford smh

 

[Perfectson]

Shane came up from lightweight and beat De La Hoya with no problems

Floyd came up from lightweight and dominaetd 147 and beat Canelo easy money lmao

fukk all these excuses, Mikey got a belt at 140 lmao, and they calling him a lightweight

going from 135 to welterweight is not uncommon in boxing, shyt happens all they goddamn time lmao
I mean even Robert Guerrero came from lightweight and became a champ at 147, lmao

while all facts, i think you have to consider coming up in weight for a big fight like this. But you're 100% right although typically those guys wanted to stay at the higher weight class and they did a more methodical move up.

However, I didn't hear the same excuses (at least the number) when Rigondeuax came up to fight Loma , think he jumped 2 weight classes too and muthafukkaz been attacking him because he quit (smartly).

 

[The axe murderer]

Yup, its bad enough when nikkas say so and so don't like it to the body, because nobody does really.

but to say a whole race of fighters don't like getting hit to the body is just shyt is equally ignorant as well as racist.

''have no heart'' That makes no sense considering pernell won a fight earlier with a broken jaw. But then again Oscar while a great boxer is fishnet wearing weirdo.

 

[Perfectson]

''have no heart'' That makes no sense considering pernell won a fight earlier with a broken jaw. But then again Oscar while a great boxer is fishnet wearing weirdo.

he was on that -cism a bit, maybe to sell tickets...same thing Floyd kinda did too. So I'm not gonna put too much onus on that, he basically called out all black fighters at the time and he knew that would sell tickets because blacks would want to see him lose.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Maybe I'm just different, but I'm just not as impressed as you are with Spence performance like that. I give him a B. A knockdown or two would have given him an A and a stoppage would have given him an A+. I grade harder when someone has crazy advantages over their opponent. It's the reason I rate Bryd performance over Tua's more than Lewis's.

I think Mikey underestimated Spence's speed, but we all know that can be overcome with timing. The thing is with timing, is it only works if you throw the punches. Mikey just seemed like a guy that was content to get outboxed with the silent contract. This was like a more athletic Wladimir fight. Mikey was landing in that 2nd rd, but would never take the chances again when he got in range.

Mikey is a better puncher than Brook no doubt, but Brook is a much better athlete so he used the best thing going for him and used footwork and angles to outbox Spence for the early rds clean, but since his punching was half ass he never really gained Spence respect nor hurt dude so Spence was still able to come on late and beast up.

Almost wished Welterweight had a guy that could punch like Mikey but was as athletic like Brook. That guy would give Spence problems no doubt.

I smell long winded hater shyt

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Stop this non aense.
Errol beat a fukk i ng lightweight. He didnt prove shyt, this was a blatant pbc money grab.

I didnt eeven watch this shyt or post because I knew what this was. It meant nothing and it was a cash out. Big G, told mikey to stay away from WW because he was too small, man gonna.be.pissing blood and damaged physically for that check, smh.

All that to say Keith Thurman is the man in the division, Ugas is #2 for beating Porter, with Garcia 3 spence 4 bud crawford 5, and manny 7 or 8 dwpendimg on how you rate sadam ali

Yall haters pathetic

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

A persistent myth this is that "insert a big promoter" not treating black fighters well as opposed to Haymon who's black but what's the basis of it? That Haymon is black, officially not a promoter and his fighters like him?
Which black fighter in particular was mistreated by Oscar, how many of them? Mexican fighters often gravitate toward Oscar just how black fighters often gravitate toward Haymon but I see no evidence of either of them treating one race or the other better.
All I'm seeing is everybody throwing around giga offers let that be DAZN, ESPN or even PBC and seldom I see fighters getting treated bad these days. Let's just look at GBP now, how can you be mistreated when (if you want to) you get to fight every 3rd-4th months and you are getting paid millions every fight? I don't think PBC would let Spence go for any money, probably he is their most valuable long term investment with Wilder being 33 already and Pac being 40 but regardless idk how fighting under GBP backed by DAZN money is a mistreat these days for black fighters.

You CAC, right?

 

[malbaker86]

 

[malbaker86]

You CAC, right?

My dawg is hungarian or at least that's what i remember him as and he's cool.