27 Survivors of Sexual Assault Quoting their Attackers

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No, but it's the best protection you have.

Just because you can't control what others think and do, doesn't mean you can't take the best measures to protect yourself from them. It isn't all or nothing, you know what I'm talking about. If not, then start taking strolls down dark alleys at night, since we can't control how sick others are...or start getting black out drunk around a bunch of guys you don't know...see my point?

You're right, and I agree with that. But at the same time, it reinforces what I said before about women being taught to fear men. In a perfect world women would be able to walk at any time of night without having to worry about being assaulted or raped, but unfortunately that doesn't happen, even in the United States. You're absolutely correct, we gotta be careful, and take every measure and precaution to protect yourself. Carry mase, pepper spray, register for a handgun, do what you gotta do.
 

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this victim blaming "if you didn't put yourself in so and so position" shyt your doing is stupid.

See my previous post,

It's not victim blaming, it's using the best protection you have. Obviously some things are out of your control, but that shouldn't be a pass to say fukk it and do whatever. All I'm saying is that regardless of the circumstances, a female should be aware and put her safety first, I'm not really blaming anyone.
 

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You're right, and I agree with that. But at the same time, it reinforces what I said before about women being taught to fear me. In a perfect world women would be able to walk at any time of night without having to worry about being assaulted or raped, but unfortunately that doesn't happen, even in the United States. You're absolutely correct, we gotta be careful, and take every measure and precaution to protect yourself. Carry mase, pepper spray, register for a handgun, do what you gotta do.

See I knew this girl was smart. She actually gets what i'm saying rather than jump to the most negative and overly simplistic conclusions....like some other posters.:snoop:
 

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See my previous post,

It's not victim blaming, it's using the best protection you have. Obviously some things are out of your control, but that shouldn't be a pass to say fukk it and do whatever. All I'm saying is that regardless of the circumstances, a female should be aware and put her safety first, I'm not really blaming anyone.

I agree.. it's the reality of the world that we live in.

unfortunately in Mass, though to carry mase, pepperspray or a gun legally I have to obtain an FID, and I can't do that.
 

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I agree.. it's the reality of the world that we live in.

too bad in Mass, though to carry mase, pepperspray or a gun legally I have to obtain an FID, and I can't do that.

You better carry that shyt anyways and be ready and able to use it. They won't lock you up for carrying those things, and i'd rather risk it and pay whatever fine if I get caught then have nothing. Like when one of my female cousins got an apartment by herself in a not so good neighborhood. I got her some mase, and taught her how to use it quickly. I talked her into getting a gun, and took her to the shooting ranges. I also talked to her about avoiding groups of guys when walking by herself, and how to walk from her apartment and to her car safely.
 

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Takes strength to do what these women did, they never should have had to go through such a experience in the first place
 

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See I knew this girl was smart. She actually gets what i'm saying rather than jump to the most negative and overly simplistic conclusions....like some other posters.:snoop:

I think the thing is, a lot of women would rather be able to live in a world in which we can basically do what we want (go out in the middle of the night without having the fear of being raped), but I've come to the conclusion a long ass time ago that's just not ever gonna happen. Not even in a perfect world. Working in a rape crisis center just taught me that instead of hoping for the best and putting yourself in a dangerous or compromising situation, I should just protect myself in every way that I can cause it'll break your spirit. I almost went as far as going to a gun range (I lived in a really shady neighborhood with high rape and assault statistics) but a black chick with a gun, they'll put me on lock down. :usure:
 

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Funny how you picked a very specific scenario for your argument. You must not go out much, because I see women dressing in a way that calls attention from them in every place, every single day of the week. Pretty much every where you go out:class, malls, restaurants, a party, work etc. Women purposely dress in a way that will draw attention, because they like that attention. You can't deny this, and you know it's true, which is why you went that route into only focusing on that specific scenario of "oh that poor woman walking alone down the street" so GTFO.
You overplaying that whole "oh she's a victim of random dudes looking, even though she wants them to look, that poor woman's existence" is nothing more than extreme simp pandering. You think women don't like attention? :russ:

I love how you also tried to imply my mindset is warped, when mine is that of a realistic one. Yours however, is one of an overly dramatic try hard, who's going to extremes to cape for women in an area they thrive and relish in. This is shocking, because aside from this area you're clearly intelligent, but when it comes to women you suddenly :cape: to extremes.

So how is that E p*ssy going to be delivered to you friend? Fed ex or UPS?:patrice:

whats really funny about this is that you are stigmatizing and stereotyping women in much the same way that white racists stereotype black people.

If it bothers you when white men portray blacks as violent thugs, who are seeking, or inviting violent confrontations, based on the actions of some, pop culture, or the dress, behavior, or attitudes of many, then how can you offer that opinion above? See what racism does is that it seeks to justify its injurious activity by blaming and problematizing THE VICTIM. Its all the victim's fault. Sexism is the same.

What does dressing to seek attention mean exactly? So a woman cant dress in ways that accentuate her body or features, w/o it being a problem? You see what the suggestion here is? You dont think it should be the responsibility of men to control their urges or behavior, so its incumbent upon WOMEN to do everything possible to not arouse those feelings within men. You are problematizing a woman's normal behavior as "wanting attention". This is very similar to how white people say that a black person's choice of clothes, slang, etc AROUSED their racist beliefs, so its the victims fault, and not the prejudicial social environment that informed them.

I am referencing power relationships. Males hold physical, economic, and social power, and they wield it against women daily. Your hostility towards women doesnt allow you to acknowledge this, so you'd rather feed into the misogynist system. Again, the same way that black racism vs. white racism are not one in the same, because of power asymmetry, and a historical context that has built prejudice against black people.
 

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You better carry that shyt anyways and be ready and able to use it. They won't lock you up for carrying those things, and i'd rather risk it and pay whatever fine if I get caught then have nothing. Like when one of my female cousins got an apartment by herself in a not so good neighborhood. I got her some mase, and taught her how to use it quickly. I talked her into getting a gun, and took her to the shooting ranges. I also talked to her about avoiding groups of guys when walking by herself, and how to walk from her apartment and to her car safely.

Yeah, I think I'd have to go out of state to get it.

Massachusetts is the only state you have to have a firearms identity card to get pepper spray or mase, i'm pretty sure.. shyt is stupid.
 

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whats really funny about this is that you are stigmatizing and stereotyping women in much the same way that white racists stereotype black people.

If it bothers you when white men portray blacks as violent thugs, who are seeking, or inviting violent confrontations, based on the actions of some, pop culture, or the dress, behavior, or attitudes of many, then how can you offer that opinion above? See what racism does is that it seeks to justify its injurious activity by blaming and problematizing THE VICTIM. Its all the victim's fault. Sexism is the same.

What does dressing to seek attention mean exactly? So a woman cant dress in ways that accentuate her body or features, w/o it being a problem? You see what the suggestion here is? You dont think it should be the responsibility of men to control their urges or behavior, so its incumbent upon WOMEN to do everything possible to not arouse those feelings within men. You are problematizing a woman's normal behavior as "wanting attention". This is very similar to how white people say that a black person's choice of clothes, slang, etc AROUSED their racist beliefs, so its the victims fault, and not the prejudicial social environment that informed them.

I am referencing power relationships. Males hold physical, economic, and social power, and they wield it against women daily. Your hostility towards women doesnt allow you to acknowledge this, so you'd rather feed into the misogynist system. Again, the same way that black racism vs. white racism are not one in the same, because of power asymmetry, and a historical context that has built prejudice against black people.
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whats really funny about this is that you are stigmatizing and stereotyping women in much the same way that white racists stereotype black people.

If it bothers you when white men portray blacks as violent thugs, who are seeking, or inviting violent confrontations, based on the actions of some, pop culture, or the dress, behavior, or attitudes of many, then how can you offer that opinion above? See what racism does is that it seeks to justify its injurious activity by blaming and problematizing THE VICTIM. Its all the victim's fault. Sexism is the same.

What does dressing to seek attention mean exactly? So a woman cant dress in ways that accentuate her body or features, w/o it being a problem? You see what the suggestion here is? You dont think it should be the responsibility of men to control their urges or behavior, so its incumbent upon WOMEN to do everything possible to not arouse those feelings within men. You are problematizing a woman's normal behavior as "wanting attention". This is very similar to how white people say that a black person's choice of clothes, slang, etc AROUSED their racist beliefs, so its the victims fault, and not the prejudicial social environment that informed them.

I am referencing power relationships. Males hold physical, economic, and social power, and they wield it against women daily. Your hostility towards women doesnt allow you to acknowledge this, so you'd rather feed into the misogynist system. Again, the same way that black racism vs. white racism are not one in the same, because of power asymmetry, and a historical context that has built prejudice against black people.
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