2024 United States Presidential Election Megathread

Most Important Election of Our Lives

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    Votes: 103 59.9%
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    Votes: 69 40.1%

  • Total voters
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America is going to send both of your political careers to where Madison Cawthorn's legs are. The Land Of Wind & Ghosts.
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Republicans are trying to make a last-minute change to the Electoral College to make it easier for Trump to win​


  • Republicans are making a last-minute push to change how Nebraska awards its Electoral College votes.
  • If successful, it would make Kamala Harris' path to the presidency significantly tougher.
  • The "blue wall" states — including Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan — wouldn't be enough to win.
With less than two months to go before the 2024 election, top Republicans and allies of former President Donald Trump are pushing for a last-minute change to the Electoral College.

If they're successful, Vice President Kamala Harris' path to the presidency would become significantly tougher.

The GOP effort centers on Nebraska, a traditionally Republican state that awards its electoral votes in an unusual way.

Under the country's Electoral College system, each state has a set number of "electors." The number of votes each state has is determined by how many members of Congress represent that state. For example, a state with three House members and two senators has five Electoral College votes. In almost every state, all of the state's electors vote for the candidate who wins the most votes in that state, which is known as "winner-take-all."

But that's not the case in Nebraska, where three of the state's five electors vote according to the result of their congressional districts.

In 2020, Joe Biden lost to then-President Donald Trump by 19 points in Nebraska. But Biden defeated Trump by 6.5 points in the state's 2nd District, which encompasses the state's largest city, Omaha. As a result, four of the state's five electoral votes went to Trump, while one went to Biden.

Several polls have found Harris leading in the 2nd District this year, and Republicans have been looking to avoid a repeat of 2020. On Wednesday, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina skipped Senate votes to travel to Lincoln, Nebraska's capital, where he lobbied state lawmakers to switch the state to winner-take-all in the final weeks before the election.

"I was glad to go out and talk about the world as I see it," Graham told CBS News on Thursday. "I hope the people in Nebraska will understand this may come down to a single electoral vote. And I just don't believe a Harris presidency is good for Nebraska."

The Electoral College math

Under the Electoral College, a candidate needs to win 270 votes — a majority of the 538 total electors — to win.

Seven states are widely considered to be the key swing states. Three of them are the traditional "blue wall" states that have historically voted Democratic but that Trump narrowly carried in 2016: Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

The other four are the "Sun Belt" states of Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. Biden won Nevada, Arizona, and Georgia in 2020, but Trump has generally led in polling of those states this year.

There's also Maine, a Democratic-controlled state that apportions its electors the same way as Nebraska. Trump comfortably won Maine's 2nd District in both 2016 and 2020, and though some polling has found Harris leading Trump there, he's generally considered more likely to win that district, which would give him one of the state's four votes.

Maine earlier this year threatened to switch to a winner-take-all system for Electoral College votes if Nebraska did the same. But unlike in Nebraska, it's probably too late to do that before the election — it would require two-thirds support from the Maine Legislature, which Democrats don't have.

How one vote could change the election

As Graham noted, just one electoral vote is at stake in Nebraska. But that single vote could be the difference between a Harris win and a tie vote.

Under the current rules, if Harris lost all the Sun Belt states and Maine's 2nd District but won all the blue-wall states, plus Nebraska's 2nd District, she would win exactly 270 votes — enough to become president.

But without that one vote from Nebraska, Harris would need to win at least one of the Sun Belt states or Maine's 2nd District.

Otherwise, it's a 269-269 tie — a result that would throw the election toward the House of Representatives, where a candidate must win the support of at least 26 state delegations to win. Under such a scenario, Trump would be strongly favored — Republicans would likely control most state delegations, even without a majority.

That's not to say it's impossible for Harris to win outside the blue wall. The vice president has generally led in Nevada polling, with Trump only narrowly ahead in the other three states. Harris' campaign chair, Jen O'Malley Dillon, wrote in a memo at the beginning of this month that while the members of the campaign considered themselves the "clear underdogs," they believed Harris had "multiple pathways to 270 electoral votes."

But changing Nebraska's Electoral College apportionment would make an already tough election even tougher for Harris, denying her the ability to merely rely on the blue wall to win.

It remains unclear whether Nebraska lawmakers will press ahead with the switch to winner-take-all. Republican Gov. Jim Pillen supports it, but there weren't enough votes in the state's unicameral Legislature to make the change earlier this year.

The Nebraska Examiner said some of the previous holdouts may be coming around and the GOP effort remained underway.
 

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Trump: I don't think I've ever said this before. So we do these rallies. They're massive rallies. Everybody loves, everybody stays till the end. By the way, you know, when she said that, well, your rallies people leave. Honestly, nobody does. And if I saw them leaving, I'd say, and ladies and gentlemen make America great again and I'd get the hell out, ok? Because I don't want people leaving. But I do have to say so I give these long sometimes very complex sentences and paragraphs but they all come together. I do it a lot. I do it with raising cane. That story. I do it with the story on the catapults on the aircraft carriers. I do it with a lot of different stories. When I mentioned Doctor Hannibal Lecter. I'm using that as an example of people that are coming in from Silence of the Lambs. I use it. They say it's terrible. So they say so I'll give this long complex area for instance that I talked about a lot of different territory… You know, for a town hall, there's a lot of people but the fake news likes to say, the fake news likes to say, oh, he was rambling. No, no, that's not rambling. That's genius. When you can connect the dots. Now, now, Sarah, if you couldn't connect the dots, you got a problem. But every dot was connected and many stories were told in that little paragraph


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That reads and sounds a LOT like cognitive decline. Rambling about shyt you made up, like it makes any sense. He's an idiot and that thing Sarah used him to become Governor of one of the worst states in the union:mjlol:
 

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Republicans are trying to make a last-minute change to the Electoral College to make it easier for Trump to win​


  • Republicans are making a last-minute push to change how Nebraska awards its Electoral College votes.
  • If successful, it would make Kamala Harris' path to the presidency significantly tougher.
  • The "blue wall" states — including Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan — wouldn't be enough to win.
With less than two months to go before the 2024 election, top Republicans and allies of former President Donald Trump are pushing for a last-minute change to the Electoral College.

If they're successful, Vice President Kamala Harris' path to the presidency would become significantly tougher.

The GOP effort centers on Nebraska, a traditionally Republican state that awards its electoral votes in an unusual way.

Under the country's Electoral College system, each state has a set number of "electors." The number of votes each state has is determined by how many members of Congress represent that state. For example, a state with three House members and two senators has five Electoral College votes. In almost every state, all of the state's electors vote for the candidate who wins the most votes in that state, which is known as "winner-take-all."

But that's not the case in Nebraska, where three of the state's five electors vote according to the result of their congressional districts.

In 2020, Joe Biden lost to then-President Donald Trump by 19 points in Nebraska. But Biden defeated Trump by 6.5 points in the state's 2nd District, which encompasses the state's largest city, Omaha. As a result, four of the state's five electoral votes went to Trump, while one went to Biden.

Several polls have found Harris leading in the 2nd District this year, and Republicans have been looking to avoid a repeat of 2020. On Wednesday, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina skipped Senate votes to travel to Lincoln, Nebraska's capital, where he lobbied state lawmakers to switch the state to winner-take-all in the final weeks before the election.

"I was glad to go out and talk about the world as I see it," Graham told CBS News on Thursday. "I hope the people in Nebraska will understand this may come down to a single electoral vote. And I just don't believe a Harris presidency is good for Nebraska."

The Electoral College math

Under the Electoral College, a candidate needs to win 270 votes — a majority of the 538 total electors — to win.

Seven states are widely considered to be the key swing states. Three of them are the traditional "blue wall" states that have historically voted Democratic but that Trump narrowly carried in 2016: Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

The other four are the "Sun Belt" states of Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, and North Carolina. Biden won Nevada, Arizona, and Georgia in 2020, but Trump has generally led in polling of those states this year.

There's also Maine, a Democratic-controlled state that apportions its electors the same way as Nebraska. Trump comfortably won Maine's 2nd District in both 2016 and 2020, and though some polling has found Harris leading Trump there, he's generally considered more likely to win that district, which would give him one of the state's four votes.

Maine earlier this year threatened to switch to a winner-take-all system for Electoral College votes if Nebraska did the same. But unlike in Nebraska, it's probably too late to do that before the election — it would require two-thirds support from the Maine Legislature, which Democrats don't have.

How one vote could change the election

As Graham noted, just one electoral vote is at stake in Nebraska. But that single vote could be the difference between a Harris win and a tie vote.

Under the current rules, if Harris lost all the Sun Belt states and Maine's 2nd District but won all the blue-wall states, plus Nebraska's 2nd District, she would win exactly 270 votes — enough to become president.

But without that one vote from Nebraska, Harris would need to win at least one of the Sun Belt states or Maine's 2nd District.

Otherwise, it's a 269-269 tie — a result that would throw the election toward the House of Representatives, where a candidate must win the support of at least 26 state delegations to win. Under such a scenario, Trump would be strongly favored — Republicans would likely control most state delegations, even without a majority.

That's not to say it's impossible for Harris to win outside the blue wall. The vice president has generally led in Nevada polling, with Trump only narrowly ahead in the other three states. Harris' campaign chair, Jen O'Malley Dillon, wrote in a memo at the beginning of this month that while the members of the campaign considered themselves the "clear underdogs," they believed Harris had "multiple pathways to 270 electoral votes."

But changing Nebraska's Electoral College apportionment would make an already tough election even tougher for Harris, denying her the ability to merely rely on the blue wall to win.

It remains unclear whether Nebraska lawmakers will press ahead with the switch to winner-take-all. Republican Gov. Jim Pillen supports it, but there weren't enough votes in the state's unicameral Legislature to make the change earlier this year.

The Nebraska Examiner said some of the previous holdouts may be coming around and the GOP effort remained underway.

That would have to be a constitutional amendment…. so all the gop is going is being cap artist
 
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