2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House

WHO WINS?


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I don’t know what any of the national polls mean anymore when the GOP has only won one popular vote (2004) since the 1988 election. Even when Hilary lost the electoral college in 2016, she was up 48% to 46% in the popular vote. Biden also won by a 5 point margin 51% to 46%.

There is no world in which Trump is ahead of Biden in a head to head if the polls are measuring the popular vote.

Edit: I see there is a 15% undecided/not sure. They should make these indecisive fukks answer the question one way or the other if we are to have accurate polling. Until then, bush these national polls because they are useless.


The polls right now are meaningless in terms of telling you which of those two will win. They are basically signaling low enthusiasm for Biden and clear warning signs, but with the undecided # so huge it's impossible to know what's really going on.

I think they are slightly helpful in telling which matchups are most favorable, but only for the differences that are greater than the poll's margin of error. Meaning, vaguely, that Desantis and Pence are relatively poor candidates against Biden while Haley is a relatively strong candidate. (Trump is an outlier due to his especially strong base plus especially low ceiling.)
 

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Between the incredibly low approval rating, the age, the constant gaffes, the fact that he'll be blamed for the economy even though it isn't his fautl, the difficulty he'll have in full-time campaigning, the fact that he objectively SUCKS at actual campaigning (as evidenced by his performance every national election where he didn't get a break by everyone having to stay home and not do events), and his much much closer than it should have been win in 2020.....can we all agree yet that the Biden/Harris ticket is a BAD option and the Dems could be in serious trouble?

Let Gretch take this home. Let Newsom take this home. WTF can't the democratic establishment read the room for shyt?
 

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So we're not gonna learn anything after all the doom and gloom polling in 2022
No these nikkas do the same thing every two years it’s annoying.

If you gonna do polls atleast do it in the 8 states that will actually decide the election. National polls mean shyt, especially in 2023
 

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Between the incredibly low approval rating, the age, the constant gaffes, the fact that he'll be blamed for the economy even though it isn't his fautl, the difficulty he'll have in full-time campaigning, the fact that he objectively SUCKS at actual campaigning (as evidenced by his performance every national election where he didn't get a break by everyone having to stay home and not do events), and his much much closer than it should have been win in 2020.....can we all agree yet that the Biden/Harris ticket is a BAD option and the Dems could be in serious trouble?

Let Gretch take this home. Let Newsom take this home. WTF can't the democratic establishment read the room for shyt?
They are governing well. That’s all that matters
 
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