2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

WHO WINS?


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Harris is by nature a pragmatist and cautious, which doesn't make a bad leader, but when combined with the advice of those out of touch aides...you get what we saw. If she had, from the moment she was nominated, played it way less safe, fukk the rules, fukk the old playbook, we are going do things different in this country and overseas....there's a window there.

That moment on July 22 felt transformative, but by September, the messaging had gotten very watered down. It was a lot like Hillary's 2016. Very insular. Lots of memes and shyt. She didn't talk like someone who wanted to change the world/the country.

A) she is not really that person, which is ok, but

B) her staffers and advisors could not make her sound like that person, because they aren't either

which is not surmountable.

for reference: Opinion | The Shifting Convictions of Kamala Harris
 
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Also, posted in here she should have co opted Kennedy and then cut him off at the knees when she had the win. Not sure what his actual impact was overall, but it's also voter outreach.
 

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Some people might call it cope but I'm learning to feel indifferent right now about Trump winning.
Maybe it's time for the democrat party to restructure and get rid of the trans and the crazy Palestine people. Let them go cry to someone else.
We don't want them in the party anymore if they are going to cause us to lose election to be ruled by a tyrant.

Also we need an echo-chamber to push propaganda 24/7. The other side is no longer playing by the same rules.
 

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Some people might call it cope but I'm learning to feel indifferent right now about Trump winning.
Maybe it's time for the democrat party to restructure and get rid of the trans and the crazy Palestine people. Let them go cry to someone else.
We don't want them in the party anymore if they are going to cause us to lose election to be ruled by a tyrant.

Also we need an echo-chamber to push propaganda 24/7. The other side is no longer playing by the same rules.

The thing is those podcasts aren't echo chambers. Democrats don't need an echo chamber, they have them. The Harris campaign lived in a lot of those spaces. Childless Cat Ladies. The brat shyt. They need to reframe messaging and run campaigns that people can fukk with. Working class, men, young men. Diverse messaging for women, not Twitter bullshyt.

Pod Save America
MSNBC
Progressive Tik Tok or Twitter or whatever

are the Democrat echo chambers
 
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It's crazy. And you know I speak with a diverse group. But @No1 nailed it.

I'm a gun owning, good job guy and a lot folks who should be voting Dem are surprised I'm liberal.

We have to bring that energy back to the party where you aren't weak because you want the world to be better.

Dems are going to have to go left economic message wise, but also lean into making that masculine.
 

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I think we just need to get the lube and prepare to violated by MAGA. And there is no way he's leaving after 4yrs. We are fukked. Its over. Cant even enjoy sports anymore. The country has went full maga.
 

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Some people might call it cope but I'm learning to feel indifferent right now about Trump winning.
Maybe it's time for the democrat party to restructure and get rid of the trans and the crazy Palestine people. Let them go cry to someone else.
We don't want them in the party anymore if they are going to cause us to lose election to be ruled by a tyrant.


Also we need an echo-chamber to push propaganda 24/7. The other side is no longer playing by the same rules.

I've been saying that the last few days.

It's time for them to go :camby:

Anybody who knifes you in the back in two different elections because they're butthurt over something is not an ally.
 
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