2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

[King Kreole]

Whats this tweet supposed to mean?

It's the Liberal response to anti-genocide protestors.

I despise Hezbollah and other Iranian backed islamic elements in the region.

Do you have a problem with that?

Whether I have a problem with it or not depends on what actions you advocate be done to act on your hatred.

 

[Loose]

Elon musk is 500x worse then republicans supposed fear of George soros

 

[BK The Great]

If Biden was smart he’d use his power for the greater good in the end of his presidency.

 

[Outlaw]

Biden is the active President for the next 2 months. There are a myriad of things he can do. Saying they're better off pleading to Trump is yet again a display of the learned helplessness and fetishization of powerlessness that Liberals love to cling to.


So even though the victims of Hurricane Katrina rebuked the sitting President during the election, you believe the President still had an obligation to listen to their concerns and act without malice and petty recrimination because they didn't vote for him, guided by what is moral and correct instead of abandoning them for political grudge holding? Interesting.

Biden ain’t gonna do shyt, you know that and I know that. The fact that uncommitted leader doesn’t realize that shows how much of an idiot he is and explains how he led his followers to slaughter by electing Trump.

Trump is already engaging in foreign policy, he’d do better in lobbying the incoming President.

You know the President a large portion of his followers voted for.


If Kamala won the election you know he would be pleading to her and not Biden.

I wonder why?

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

You’re critiquing human nature not liberal ideology.

Liberals feel betrayed by the Arab community after shielding them from conservatives hatred since 9/11. It’s not right for them to spew vitriol but at its core liberal ideology is more accepting of Arabs than conservatives.

Well - liberals didn't shield Arab Americans.

Obama continued NSA surveillance programs on Muslims.

His drone strikes killed tons of Arab civilians. He toppled Gadaffi in Libya causing millions to live in misery in that country.

He supported Arab dictators in Egypt during and after the Arab Spring causing many million to hate America's love of autocracy.

He did very little to stop Israel's ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and seizure of homes. He did not end the blockade of Gaza.

Liberal ideology is pretty much is hand-in-hand with imperialism. Modern American history is rife with examples ranging from Lyndon Baines Johnson escalating the Vietnam War to Joe Biden orchestrating a genocide of the Palestinian people.

 

[Outlaw]

Well - liberals didn't shield Arab Americans.

Obama continued NSA surveillance programs on Muslims.

His drone strikes killed tons of Arab civilians. He toppled Gadaffi in Libya causing millions to live in misery in that country.

He supported Arab dictators in Egypt during and after the Arab Spring causing many million to hate America's love of autocracy.

He did very little to stop Israel's ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and seizure of homes. He did not end the blockade of Gaza.

Liberal ideology pretty much is hand-in-hand with imperialism. Modern American history is rife with examples ranging from Lyndon Baines Johnson escalating the Vietnam War to Joe Biden orchestrating a genocide of the Palestinian people.

None of that compares to what Conservatives have done to Arabs.

You’re reaching here

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It's the Liberal response to anti-genocide protestors.


Whether I have a problem with it or not depends on what actions you advocate be done to act on your hatred.

Where do I have hatred? Are you confused?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Well - liberals didn't shield Arab Americans.

Obama continued NSA surveillance programs on Muslims.

His drone strikes killed tons of Arab civilians. He toppled Gadaffi in Libya causing millions to live in misery in that country.

He supported Arab dictators in Egypt during and after the Arab Spring causing many million to hate America's love of autocracy.

He did very little to stop Israel's ethnic cleansing in the West Bank and seizure of homes. He did not end the blockade of Gaza.

Liberal ideology is pretty much is hand-in-hand with imperialism. Modern American history is rife with examples ranging from Lyndon Baines Johnson escalating the Vietnam War to Joe Biden orchestrating a genocide of the Palestinian people.

I keep asking and no one answers me. What do I, as a black secular liberal social-democrat get out of embracing a coalition of conservative Arab muslims that just worked to tank the democratic nominee for president over a niche foreign policy issue?

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

None of that compares to what Conservatives have done to Arabs.

You’re reaching here

US conservatives are also imperialists, just like US liberals.

Do you dislike the equivalency or the imperialism?

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

I keep asking and no one answers me. What do I, as a black secular liberal social-democrat get out of embracing a coalition of conservative Arab muslims that just worked to tank the democratic nominee for president over a niche foreign policy issue?

Well - the US government has worked HARD with Israel and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to crush secular Arab nationalists because they were socialists or Marxists. As a result, Al Qaeda and other religious extremists filled the void.

So you, who claim that you are black and an atheist, have a vested interest in stopping America and its allies Israel and Saudi Arabia from wreaking havoc in the Middle East - before Arab religious fundamentalists kill 3,000 people in New York - again.

Bin Laden explained why he attacked America very clearly:



If it's so niche, why did it cost the Democrats Michigan? Are you sure that of the 15 million Democrat voters who stayed home during the election - at least 5 million of them didn't stay home because of Gaza?



American liberals are learning the hard way about imperial blowback

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Biden ruined any legacy he had today

 

[King Kreole]

I want arms to be used against actual opps in Hezbollah, ISIS (Syria/Iraq) and IRGC elements (Iraq/Iran)

So given that Israel is obviously more committed to using their American-supplied arms against Palestinian children and civilians than against ISIS and IRGC elements, I take it you agree with the Uncommitted Movement that Biden should be conditioning arms to Israel?

Bad deals can get worse. Instead of listening to black people, these Arabs reverted to their old world racism and decided not to trust black voters that things could get worse with the next president now they want the current administration to save them from their protest vote/behavior.

There are a lot of unfounded assumptions and racist Orientalism baked into your argument here, like the idea that Arab-American voters who didn't vote for Harris did so out of "old world racism" instead of a moral red line being crossed. The idea that all these Arab non-Harris voters woke up shocked and dismayed at the way the initial days of the Trump transition have gone is ridiculous wishcasting by dumbass Liberals who lived in a bubble and were convinced Kamala would win, so they're trying to cognitively offload their embarrassment and anger at being so wrong onto people they've been disrespecting or disregarding the entire election cycle. No one is begging Genocide Joe to save them from their protest vote/behavior, they're asking him to do the morally correct thing, which is what they've been asking him to do all along. Trying to paint this as some "trust blacks" lesson is patently pathetic, especially coming from Liberals currently baying for Palestinian blood as revenge for Harris' loss. Y'all need therapy.

With holding arms would have been the decision earlier before Hezbollah and the Houthi’s jumped in. Now you have to stand tall or create a vacuum of power and weakness to be exploited by Russia (and/or China)


https://www.wsj.com/world/russia-pr...or-houthi-assault-on-global-shipping-eabc2c2b

So yet again Israel crosses a line and for some reason gets away with it because of excuse #29497. Got it. There's always a reason Israel isn't able to be held to account for crossing lines. But next time. Next time.

 

[Outlaw]

US conservatives are also imperialists, just like US liberals.

Do you dislike the equivalency or the imperialism?

I dislike false equivalencies. You’re comparing Obama continuing NSA surveillance with Trump doing a Muslim ban or Bush invading Iraq for oil .

You claim Biden orchestrated the Palestinian genocide when Hamas started the slaughter. Biden was complicit in that he didn’t stop Bibi’s psychopathy but to say he was the mastermind behind it is false hyperbole

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

I dislike false equivalencies. You’re comparing Obama continuing NSA surveillance with Trump doing a Muslim ban or Bush invading Iraq for oil .

You claim Biden orchestrated the Palestinian genocide with Hamas started the slaughter. Biden was complicit in that he didn’t stop Bibi’s psychopathy but to say he was the mastermind behind it is false hyperbole

Bush destroyed Iraq. Obama destroyed Libya - where they're now selling black Africans on the street as slaves as we speak.

Biden has orchestrated the Palestinian genocide every step of the way - ranging from diplomatic support at the UN, to intelligence sharing, to the supply of ordinance.

Biden and Netaynahu/Gvir/Smotrich are marching hand in hand.

Aren't you upset that you're government is controlled from Jerusalem? AND they successfully ruined the Democrats' chances at electoral victory last week!

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

So given that Israel is obviously more committed to using their American-supplied arms against Palestinian children and civilians than against ISIS and IRGC elements, I take it you agree with the Uncommitted Movement that Biden should be conditioning arms to Israel?


There are a lot of unfounded assumptions and racist Orientalism baked into your argument here, like the idea that Arab-American voters who didn't vote for Harris did so out of "old world racism" instead of a moral red line being crossed. The idea that all these Arab non-Harris voters woke up shocked and dismayed at the way the initial days of the Trump transition have gone is ridiculous wishcasting by dumbass Liberals who lived in a bubble and were convinced Kamala would win, so they're trying to cognitively offload their embarrassment and anger at being so wrong onto people they've been disrespecting or disregarding the entire election cycle. No one is begging Genocide Joe to save them from their protest vote/behavior, they're asking him to do the morally correct thing, which is what they've been asking him to do all along. Trying to paint this as some "trust blacks" lesson is patently pathetic, especially coming from Liberals currently baying for Palestinian blood as revenge for Harris' loss. Y'all need therapy.


So yet again Israel crosses a line and for some reason gets away with it because of excuse #29497. Got it. There's always a reason Israel isn't able to be held to account for crossing lines. But next time. Next time.

Napoleon doesn't understand Orientalism and hasn't read Edward Said. He doesn't really read, as far as I've observed.