2024 U.S. Presidential Election Thread: Donald Trump wins & will return to the White House; GOP wins U.S. Senate & U.S. House

WHO WINS?


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Nkrumah Was Right

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It's very simple. Whose position do you agree with: The MAGA-Biden consensus of allowing Israel to commit genocide and war crimes against the Palestinians with impunity, or the anti-genocide activists who believe in the Palestinian cause and think America should no longer be arming Israel. If you agree with Biden's position and are happy that the Uncommitted Movement is being stonewalled by the lame duck Biden Administration, then you are ideologically aligned with Trump's nominees and should be happy he's not going to break with the Biden line. This whole election you folks have been laughing at and deriding the requests for the President to stop aiding and abetting a genocide. I'm just asking you to keep the same rictus grin when the bombs murdering Palestinian kids have Trump's signature on them instead of Biden's.

They’re genocidal!
 

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This is a farcically reductive false dichotomy.
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Do you agree with the Trump-Huckabee-Biden-Harris line that Israel is an untouchable ally that should be given unconditional US arms and aid to perpetrate their genocide against the Palestinians or do you think they should be reigned in with an arms embargo? Simple question. If you found yourself mocking the Uncommitted Movement throughout this election cycle and their pleas for Biden and Harris to stop aiding and abetting the genocide of Palestinians, then you should find yourself very pleased that Trump and Huckabee are in charge now and seem pledged to continue unchecked Israeli domination over the Palestinian people.

I enjoy Hezbollah getting wrecked, and with respect to Gaza I think the point has been proven and that Israel crossed the line with regards to civilians, despite Hamas being deserving of such an outcome regardless. Again, the civilian casualties are inexcusable.
What line did Israel cross with regards to civilians, and what are/should be the ramifications for crossing this line?
 

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So why are you dismissing her concerns as some sort of power grab. You remind me of white conservatives who used to call civil rights leaders, “race hustlers”.

Yeah, if I’m Palestinian, more harm has come to me or my people under Biden than under Trump. These are indisputable facts.

Why y’all getting mad because Muslims/Arabs and those concerned about Palestinians are voicing their displeasure with Biden? :heh:

That’s why I cal you a mirror image of MAGA.

Because of Joe Biden or because hamas decide they wanted to fight a war they could not win under the hopes that the global community was going to give a fukk.

shyt was a dummy mission and now their entire population is displaced.

Part of me hopes Trump wins. So he can tell them to kick rocks regarding aid again and supports Israel talking over the entire area. And then I can see you waxing poetically about how what they did was right even if the outcome was terrible.

People with shyt to lose thinks things can't get worse. Until it does.
Here we are :mjlol:
 

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I haven't seen any data saying a majority of Arabs in Michigan voted for Trump.


They shouldn't appeal to the sitting President to do the right thing? Do you believe the Bush Administration's response to Hurricane Katrina was acceptable because most of the victims didn't vote for him? This is what I mean when I say you guys have a completely mutilated moral and political compass.
Biden is a lame duck. Trump is already engaging in diplomacy. They’d be better off pleading to Trump but we all know Trump is going to do the opposite of what they ask for.


No Bush’s response to Katrina wasn’t acceptable but the two scenarios aren’t comparable
 

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Do you agree with the Trump-Huckabee-Biden-Harris line that Israel is an untouchable ally that should be given unconditional US arms and aid to perpetrate their genocide against the Palestinians
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or do you think they should be reigned in with an arms embargo?
I want arms to be used against actual opps in Hezbollah, ISIS (Syria/Iraq) and IRGC elements (Iraq/Iran)
Simple question. If you found yourself mocking the Uncommitted Movement throughout this election cycle and their pleas for Biden and Harris to stop aiding and abetting the genocide of Palestinians, then you should find yourself very pleased that Trump and Huckabee are in charge now and seem pledged to continue unchecked Israeli domination over the Palestinian people.
Bad deals can get worse. Instead of listening to black people, these Arabs reverted to their old world racism and decided not to trust black voters that things could get worse with the next president now they want the current administration to save them from their protest vote/behavior.
What line did Israel cross with regards to civilians, and what are/should be the ramifications for crossing this line?
With holding arms would have been the decision earlier before Hezbollah and the Houthi’s jumped in. Now you have to stand tall or create a vacuum of power and weakness to be exploited by Russia (and/or China)



 

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Biden is a lame duck. Trump is already engaging in diplomacy. They’d be better off pleading to Trump but we all know Trump is going to do the opposite of what they ask for.
Biden is the active President for the next 2 months. There are a myriad of things he can do. Saying they're better off pleading to Trump is yet again a display of the learned helplessness and fetishization of powerlessness that Liberals love to cling to.

No Bush’s response to Katrina wasn’t acceptable but the two scenarios aren’t comparable
So even though the victims of Hurricane Katrina rebuked the sitting President during the election, you believe the President still had an obligation to listen to their concerns and act without malice and petty recrimination because they didn't vote for him, guided by what is moral and correct instead of abandoning them for political grudge holding? Interesting.
 

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You’re critiquing human nature not liberal ideology.

Liberals feel betrayed by the Arab community after shielding them from conservatives hatred since 9/11. It’s not right for them to spew vitriol but at its core liberal ideology is more accepting of Arabs than conservatives.
 
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