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:mjlol: We done got three random (I'm a casual anything that ain't WWE/AEW) Polynesian's in the Bloodline before we got Solo's actual blood (Jacob).
Not random they're all Haku's sons
Tama Tonga & Hikuleo are really his nephews that he later adopted and raised since they were kids
Tonga Loa is Haku's actual son

I'm also pretty sure Jacob is not gonna be in this new Bloodline but on Roman's side. He's got a babyface moveset. It would also play into Rock choosing people outside of the family but still close to him (Rock considers Haku his uncle)
 

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Not random they're all Haku's sons
Tama Tonga & Hikuleo are really his nephews that he later adopted and raised since they were kids
Tonga Loa is Haku's actual son

I'm also pretty sure Jacob is not gonna be in this new Bloodline but on Roman's side. He's got a babyface moveset. It would also play into Rock choosing people outside of the family but still close to him (Rock considers Haku his uncle)
i'm way more patient than most wrestling fans but ngl i'm getting antsy on the Jacob debut..he legit one of my fav wrestlers
 

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its wild how whenever somebody leaves a company now its always ppl saying they were underutilized (i do think Ethan Page was in aew) but Rico has been on Raw just about every week meanwhile Omos been in catering since the rumble

yup honestly rick o'shea leaving opens up more time for someone else.
 
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its wild how whenever somebody leaves a company now its always ppl saying they were underutilized (i do think Ethan Page was in aew) but Rico has been on Raw just about every week meanwhile Omos been in catering since the rumble
Right. Some have real cases like omos...like, is Scorpio sky even a wrestler still?
 

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its wild how whenever somebody leaves a company now its always ppl saying they were underutilized (i do think Ethan Page was in aew) but Rico has been on Raw just about every week meanwhile Omos been in catering since the rumble

That's true but you gotta look more long term picture. He made an appearance in the rumble, then had a match on raw a month and a half later. Before that his last raw appearance was early November in a match the miz won for ic title contender. So he has small spurts where he's there for a while but then missing for a couple of weeks if not months. Mainly being used as filler for ic title contender matches or random matches.

Of course not everyone is gonna be there every week but he looks to have hit his ceiling especially regarding his opponents. He's gonna just be given the same midcard opponents each time in one big rotation. That IC division or other high flyers. They say his promo skills aren't great but that can be fixed. But it's hard just being in the main event scene cuz he doesn't fit the mold that they want in a champion.

Bad enough he doesn't have a big size but being black doesn't help either. Lashley the only one they really have used as a potential main event guy lately and he's mostly been with the street profits. They of course focused on the tag division as are new day, we know what happened with kofi. Tho that reign was more cuz of the fans support. Plus Truth also in tag division. Tho him and Lashley already vets.

It's not like NXT where Trick and Oba are black superstars featured prominently. In main roster who knows how they would even be treated or booked. Melo could have some potential but they'll likely cap it to mostly midcard or lower status.

Look at Shinsuke, one of the only male Asians who hasn't had much success only winning 1 match this year, and Tozawa playing role of gift henchmen. And of course the Latinos, if there wasn't a bunch of them to rotate in matches against each other, they would be back in catering or forgotten.

Unless it's a white or Samoan male, difficult to be given the opportunity in that main event scene.

In AEW or elsewhere he may not have that big success but it gives him a new opportunity against fresh opponents to try things out. He doesn't have to do any crazy risky moves or anything like people assume he'll do and get hurt. But with opponents that are more his style. Can't know what will happen until it does anyways.
 

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That's true but you gotta look more long term picture. He made an appearance in the rumble, then had a match on raw a month and a half later. Before that his last raw appearance was early November in a match the miz won for ic title contender. So he has small spurts where he's there for a while but then missing for a couple of weeks if not months. Mainly being used as filler for ic title contender matches or random matches.

Of course not everyone is gonna be there every week but he looks to have hit his ceiling especially regarding his opponents. He's gonna just be given the same midcard opponents each time in one big rotation. That IC division or other high flyers. They say his promo skills aren't great but that can be fixed. But it's hard just being in the main event scene cuz he doesn't fit the mold that they want in a champion.

Bad enough he doesn't have a big size but being black doesn't help either. Lashley the only one they really have used as a potential main event guy lately and he's mostly been with the street profits. They of course focused on the tag division as are new day, we know what happened with kofi. Tho that reign was more cuz of the fans support. Plus Truth also in tag division. Tho him and Lashley already vets.

It's not like NXT where Trick and Oba are black superstars featured prominently. In main roster who knows how they would even be treated or booked. Melo could have some potential but they'll likely cap it to mostly midcard or lower status.

Look at Shinsuke, one of the only male Asians who hasn't had much success only winning 1 match this year, and Tozawa playing role of gift henchmen. And of course the Latinos, if there wasn't a bunch of them to rotate in matches against each other, they would be back in catering or forgotten.

Unless it's a white or Samoan male, difficult to be given the opportunity in that main event scene.

In AEW or elsewhere he may not have that big success but it gives him a new opportunity against fresh opponents to try things out. He doesn't have to do any crazy risky moves or anything like people assume he'll do and get hurt. But with opponents that are more his style. Can't know what will happen until it does anyways.

the World Heavyweight Champion and leader of the most featured faction on Raw for the last year plus is Puerto Rican
 
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