2021 USA Basketball @ Tokyo Olympics

Would you want your stars playing in Olympics?


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this dude so pressed hes making shyt up now :russ:

quote where i mentioned wade and kd together

i also said 2012 and 2008 were both better than 92 on their own so theres that:stopitslime:

anyone with a competitive bone in their body would know the dream team took that scrimmage seriously. you didnt even make jv did you. never catch the 2008 team losing to the select team made up of actual nba players tho :mjlit:

you know how you dont know shyt about ball when you keep talking about how many hall of famers like that matters in a game. when it gets tight the bench shortens and 3-4 of those hof whose dikk you love sucking are glued to the bench:wow:

all this to distract from your original crybaby ass tantrum that tatum cant get burn on this
flabby ass olympic squad :comeon:

u doing too much breh
I confused you with that other dumb ass nikka who thinks the Dream Team isn't the best team in US history. But you both have been conflating '08 and '12 throughout this discussion and your dumb ass has been bringing '08 Kobe being "toe to toe with Jordan" (:mjlol:) so you can play dumb if you want.

:unimpressed:Okay, so you think '08 and '12 are better than '92. That just makes you doubly stupid

:mjlol:A nikka who's main argument has to do with a scrimmage as if it equates to an actual game has the nerve to even discuss someone else's basketball knowledge? Not only are you a dumbass who hasn't even watched basketball before the year 2000 and the earliest, but you exposed the fact that you didn't ever play sports and don't know how a practice is conducted.

:mjtf: The amount of HOFers illustrates how talented they are. That goes without saying. I already broke down why the '92 team would win by analyzing the players/skill sets, but it went on deaf ears because you nikkas don't know basketball. Your argument is centered around a scrimmage and a lazy ass casual fan ass "lol slow cacs" take (as if Kevin Love wouldn't arguably be one of the slowest on the floor for both teams). Every bit of this argument has demonstrated the fact that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and didn't start watching basketball until very recently. And have never played a lick of sports in your life. :mjlol:
 

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I fail to see how a guard rotation of Stockton, Mullin, Clyde and Jordan is better than Kobe, CP3, JKidd, Wade, Harden, young Sabo etc

Or how aids ridden Magic, Pippen and a broken down Bird is better than KD, Bron, Melo etc

The 92 team has no argument other than nostalgia. The 2008 & 2012 teams are objectively better. Facts :yeshrug:
That's because you're stupid.

:russ:And you deliberately omitted Magic from the guards (and Barkley and Malone from the forwards, two of the best ever at the position in their prime) while ALSO combining the '08 and '12 teams as if they're one entity. The fact that yall have to be slick and disingenuous with your arguments tells you all you need to know about how feeble your arguments are

"Aids ridden" isn't a thing btw. Magic had the HIV which never turned into aids and his athletic ability/basketball skills are not going to dramatically decline because he tested positive for HIV. Dude had the best doctors in the world and has been living perfectly fine with the virus for decades. He even made a comeback in '96. Coli doctors. :mjlol:
 

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I confused you with that other dumb ass nikka who thinks the Dream Team isn't the best team in US history. But you both have been conflating '08 and '12 throughout this discussion and your dumb ass has been bringing '08 Kobe being "toe to toe with Jordan" (:mjlol:) so you can play dumb if you want.

:unimpressed:Okay, so you think '08 and '12 are better than '92. That just makes you doubly stupid

:mjlol:A nikka who's main argument has to do with a scrimmage as if it equates to an actual game has the nerve to even discuss someone else's basketball knowledge? Not only are you a dumbass who hasn't even watched basketball before the year 2000 and the earliest, but you exposed the fact that you didn't ever play sports and don't know how a practice is conducted.

:mjtf: The amount of HOFers illustrates how talented they are. That goes without saying. I already broke down why the '92 team would win by analyzing the players/skill sets, but it went on deaf ears because you nikkas don't know basketball. Your argument is centered around a scrimmage and a lazy ass casual fan ass "lol slow cacs" take (as if Kevin Love wouldn't arguably be one of the slowest on the floor for both teams). Every bit of this argument has demonstrated the fact that you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and didn't start watching basketball until very recently. And have never played a lick of sports in your life. :mjlol:

nah your period came early this month because your boy tatum cant get minutes on this bum ass olympic squad, u aint thinking or seeing clearly and attributing shyt to me that didnt happen :lolbron:

if you think prime kobe isnt going shot for shot with mj in an actual game and youre relying on stats to tell you that you reeeeeeally dont know ball my goodness :hhh:

suck off these old dudes so much you cant figure out that the scrimmage was competitive and delude yourself into thinking it doesnt matter because it doesnt fit your narrative of this invincible aura youve bought into :picard:

no one gives af about their talent level when old ass bird wont be seeing any minutes, mullin will get run ragged and be hunted on defense, and magic is injured. i am telling you in a 48 minute basketball game 2008 or 2012 have the better players that matter

you talk about dwight being in a weak era lets talk about how garbage the wings were in mj era. we can go there if you want :jawalrus:

i ignored all that breakdown shyt you were talking about earlier because of how out of touch you are but ill humor you now. talking about ewing will son chandler or dwight:russ: if hes taking those garbage midrange contested js instead of the real scorers on that team having the ball thats a positive for the other side

elite rim protection from drob :ohhh: what does that do against some of the best midrange scorers the game has ever seen:ohhh: how do they keep up with all those scorers in transition and in the halfcourt when they got the dream team spread out with lanes wide open and shooters ready :ohhh: how is stockton staying in front of westbrook :ohhh: what plan does pippen have to stop kd :ohhh:

its almost like there would be mismatches going both ways and you know nothing about basketball:ehh: its ok breh dry your eyes, maybe tatum will have a starting spot on the olympic team one day:sadcam:
 

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nah your period came early this month because your boy tatum cant get minutes on this bum ass olympic squad, u aint thinking or seeing clearly and attributing shyt to me that didnt happen :lolbron:

if you think prime kobe isnt going shot for shot with mj in an actual game and youre relying on stats to tell you that you reeeeeeally dont know ball my goodness :hhh:

suck off these old dudes so much you cant figure out that the scrimmage was competitive and delude yourself into thinking it doesnt matter because it doesnt fit your narrative of this invincible aura youve bought into :picard:

no one gives af about their talent level when old ass bird wont be seeing any minutes, mullin will get run ragged and be hunted on defense, and magic is injured. i am telling you in a 48 minute basketball game 2008 or 2012 have the better players that matter

you talk about dwight being in a weak era lets talk about how garbage the wings were in mj era. we can go there if you want :jawalrus:

i ignored all that breakdown shyt you were talking about earlier because of how out of touch you are but ill humor you now. talking about ewing will son chandler or dwight:russ: if hes taking those garbage midrange contested js instead of the real scorers on that team having the ball thats a positive for the other side

elite rim protection from drob :ohhh: what does that do against some of the best midrange scorers the game has ever seen:ohhh: how do they keep up with all those scorers in transition and in the halfcourt when they got the dream team spread out with lanes wide open and shooters ready :ohhh: how is stockton staying in front of westbrook :ohhh: what plan does pippen have to stop kd :ohhh:

its almost like there would be mismatches going both ways and you know nothing about basketball:ehh: its ok breh dry your eyes, maybe tatum will have a starting spot on the olympic team one day:sadcam:
Prime Jordan is measurably better than prime Kobe. Like, it's not close. Suggesting otherwise is a textbook casual take. I'm not "relying" on shyt. I told you flat out he's better and said the number AND the film attests to it. Film that you have never seen. Because you didn't start watching basketball until the 2000s at the earliest.

:mjlol: You're still holding on to this feeble scrimmage thing. " hurr durr iT wAs cOmPeTiTiVe". If you legitimately think it's the equivalent of a game, you have never played sports. It's just that simple. You literally don't know what a practice is. I honestly cannot believe I am arguing with someone who truly believes a scrimmage means anything whatsoever. Lord.

Comparing the talent level of wings in the 80s-90s to late 00s-early 10s bigs is further proof of your ignorance of the game of basketball. There were literally two great centers during Dwight's prime years ('07-'12). TWO :mjlol:. Him and Yao, the latter of which was injury prone during that time and was pretty much done altogether by 2010. The next best centers were Andrew Bynum and Brook Lopez. Jordan contended with Dominique, Bird, Drexler, Dumars, Reggie, Hill, Richmond, Mullin. All of which are in the Hall of Fame. The fact that you made that comparison with a straight face further solidifies you were not watching basketball in the 90s. And it might even suggest you weren't even watching as recently as the aforementioned '07-'12 time period. :picard:

Where did I suggest anything about Ewing "taking midrange" jumpers when I said him and Robinson would dominate Chandler (again, you slickly tried to add Dwight's name in there when we were discussing the '12 team when I made that comment. :russ:Yall are so disingenuous)? The fact that your mind automatically goes to scoring (and outside scoring at that lol) when I say two elite, HOF rim protecting bigs would dominate a career role player just further shows your stupidity. They would dominate him in the paint of both ends of the floor. Even suggesting Chandler would hold his own in anyway is a laughable take.

How is Deron Williams guarding anybody? How is 2012 Harden guarding anybody? How is Melo guarding anybody? How is Kevin Love guarding anybody? We can both play this dumb ass game. The fact is, top to bottom the '92 team unquestionably has the better defenders. Pippen and Mike are two of the best wing defenders ever. Ewing and Robinson are two of the best defensive bigs ever. Stockton and Malone are multiple time all-defensive players.

:mjlol:You keep bringing up Tatum because you're trying to bail from this argument because you're getting cooked. You're not getting off the hook dog, just stop. :ufdup: If your dumbass would just admit you haven't been watching basketball for long and don't know what you're talking about, you wouldn't be suffering this fate
 

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dont quote me unless youre gonna talk hoops I don't do that lame ass stan wars shyt :shaq2:
Saying you’re hilarious is talking hoops. I called your statement incorrect and said that it lacked perspective and also said that you seem like a deluded, misguided fanboy in only three words.
 

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Prime Jordan is measurably better than prime Kobe. Like, it's not close. Suggesting otherwise is a textbook casual take. I'm not "relying" on shyt. I told you flat out he's better and said the number AND the film attests to it. Film that you have never seen. Because you didn't start watching basketball until the 2000s at the earliest.

:mjlol: You're still holding on to this feeble scrimmage thing. " hurr durr iT wAs cOmPeTiTiVe". If you legitimately think it's the equivalent of a game, you have never played sports. It's just that simple. You literally don't know what a practice is. I honestly cannot believe I am arguing with someone who truly believes a scrimmage means anything whatsoever. Lord.

Comparing the talent level of wings in the 80s-90s to late 00s-early 10s bigs is further proof of your ignorance of the game of basketball. There were literally two great centers during Dwight's prime years ('07-'12). TWO :mjlol:. Him and Yao, the latter of which was injury prone during that time and was pretty much done altogether by 2010. The next best centers were Andrew Bynum and Brook Lopez. Jordan contended with Dominique, Bird, Drexler, Dumars, Reggie, Hill, Richmond, Mullin. All of which are in the Hall of Fame. The fact that you made that comparison with a straight face further solidifies you were not watching basketball in the 90s. And it might even suggest you weren't even watching as recently as the aforementioned '07-'12 time period. :picard:

Where did I suggest anything about Ewing "taking midrange" jumpers when I said him and Robinson would dominate Chandler (again, you slickly tried to add Dwight's name in there when we were discussing the '12 team when I made that comment. :russ:Yall are so disingenuous)? The fact that your mind automatically goes to scoring (and outside scoring at that lol) when I say two elite, HOF rim protecting bigs would dominate a career role player just further shows your stupidity. They would dominate him in the paint of both ends of the floor. Even suggesting Chandler would hold his own in anyway is a laughable take.

How is Deron Williams guarding anybody? How is 2012 Harden guarding anybody? How is Melo guarding anybody? How is Kevin Love guarding anybody? We can both play this dumb ass game. The fact is, top to bottom the '92 team unquestionably has the better defenders. Pippen and Mike are two of the best wing defenders ever. Ewing and Robinson are two of the best defensive bigs ever. Stockton and Malone are multiple time all-defensive players.

:mjlol:You keep bringing up Tatum because you're trying to bail from this argument because you're getting cooked. You're not getting off the hook dog, just stop. :ufdup: If your dumbass would just admit you haven't been watching basketball for long and don't know what you're talking about, you wouldn't be suffering this fate

the film of mj torching slow white dudes 1on1 because of the illegal defense rules? ya everybody seen those :francis: saying youre using the eye test for watching mj flame broil craig ehlo is not helping your case when kobe was actually going against legit superstar wings on offense and defense throughout his career. acting like everyone in the modern world cant see these 80s and 90s games like youre special for seeing it live :skip:

this retard swears up and down he's winning the argument and that he's played competitive basketball before but keeps trying to say that scrimmages dont matter because theyre just practice. telling me that 11 HOF just laid down all their competitive instincts that got them where they were, that the most insane competitor of all time mj lost to college kids because they werent trying :heh: were they trying in the intra-squad scrimmage they had team magic v team jordan or were they just fukking around because it was just practice. any scrimmages for any team worth a shyt at any level will be competitive and heated. and this is how i know you never played any level of ball in your life, you probably grew up in the era of participation trophies too :scusthov:

you list only centers when we're talking about bigs because you dont wanna talk about duncan kg and dirk. :wtb: but then you list SF's when you're talking about MJ's competition when hes a guard. you thought you were slick but that list looking real flabby when you take out the players whose natural positions are sf that pippen wouldve drawn as a matchup :jawalrus:

when you say ewing would dominate a roleplayer like chandler, let me ask you this, is former dpoy chandler better or worse than the super-tandem of luc longley and bill cartwright that strapped ewing up in the 91 playoffs? :jbhmm: a little later in ewing's career when he had more experience and a better team around him, why did he shoot 42% in game 7 of 1994 ecf against longley and cartwright instead of dominating those roleplayers like an elite post should? :jbhmm: why did he shoot 41% against the monster defensive duo of prime john salley and 35 year old laimbeer in 1992? :jbhmm: could it be because you're a dikkriding casual who doesnt understand the nuances of team defense and how they affect post players in particular and that in the paint especially, not everything is a straight 1on1 matchup? :gladbron: for someone who claims to have been watching all this basketball in the 90s you sure dont have a basic grasp of one of the criticisms of ewing's game being his reliance on jumpers which led to a drop of 50% FG in the regular ssn to 47% in the playoffs. in comparison hakeem was doing 53% in the playoffs and 51% in season. :sas2:


now onto d-rob. this one will be quick. how good is former dpoy tyson chandler compared to felton spencer and why was felton spencer holding d-rob to 41% shooting in the 94 offs :leostare: fast forward to 98, again taking the L to utah, how did elite big greg foster put d-rob in jail to the tune of 40% shooting :merchant: the 48% playoff FG compared to 51% season FG tells us what we need to know :whoo:

in summation, elite post players john salley, bill laimbeer, luc longley, bill cartwright, felton spencer, and greg foster are able to hold elite post players ewing and d-rob to mediocre/bad playoff series, but former dpoy tyson chandler cant do that for 1 game. got u breh, say no more :whew:

bron, kobe, kidd, cp3, dwight are some of the best defenders ever at their position with wade having multiple all-defense nods so im not sure where youre trying to go with that

on the 2012 squad they got bron kobe cp3 chandler, iggy has multiple all-defense nods too


i keep bringing up tatum because he's the reason you deflected to talking about the dream team after your dumb ass take that any coach k led usa team could beat prime spain. i let that slide but im happy to continue exposing your lack of basketball knowledge if you like. lemme know when you wanna throw the towel :damn:
 

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Saying you’re hilarious is talking hoops. I called your statement incorrect and said that it lacked perspective and also said that you seem like a deluded, misguided fanboy in only three words.

then enlighten me about your perspective or stop quoting me. 'saying it in 3 words' and resorting to personal attacks right off the bat does nothing for discussion :dahell:
 

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So what’s was the highlights of the game from a tactical standpoint?

From the quarters I was able to watch it looked like it was just KD leading the way at the end to save the US.
 

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the film of mj torching slow white dudes 1on1 because of the illegal defense rules? ya everybody seen those :francis: saying youre using the eye test for watching mj flame broil craig ehlo is not helping your case when kobe was actually going against legit superstar wings on offense and defense throughout his career. acting like everyone in the modern world cant see these 80s and 90s games like youre special for seeing it live :skip:

this retard swears up and down he's winning the argument and that he's played competitive basketball before but keeps trying to say that scrimmages dont matter because theyre just practice. telling me that 11 HOF just laid down all their competitive instincts that got them where they were, that the most insane competitor of all time mj lost to college kids because they werent trying :heh: were they trying in the intra-squad scrimmage they had team magic v team jordan or were they just fukking around because it was just practice. any scrimmages for any team worth a shyt at any level will be competitive and heated. and this is how i know you never played any level of ball in your life, you probably grew up in the era of participation trophies too :scusthov:

you list only centers when we're talking about bigs because you dont wanna talk about duncan kg and dirk. :wtb: but then you list SF's when you're talking about MJ's competition when hes a guard. you thought you were slick but that list looking real flabby when you take out the players whose natural positions are sf that pippen wouldve drawn as a matchup :jawalrus:

when you say ewing would dominate a roleplayer like chandler, let me ask you this, is former dpoy chandler better or worse than the super-tandem of luc longley and bill cartwright that strapped ewing up in the 91 playoffs? :jbhmm: a little later in ewing's career when he had more experience and a better team around him, why did he shoot 42% in game 7 of 1994 ecf against longley and cartwright instead of dominating those roleplayers like an elite post should? :jbhmm: why did he shoot 41% against the monster defensive duo of prime john salley and 35 year old laimbeer in 1992? :jbhmm: could it be because you're a dikkriding casual who doesnt understand the nuances of team defense and how they affect post players in particular and that in the paint especially, not everything is a straight 1on1 matchup? :gladbron: for someone who claims to have been watching all this basketball in the 90s you sure dont have a basic grasp of one of the criticisms of ewing's game being his reliance on jumpers which led to a drop of 50% FG in the regular ssn to 47% in the playoffs. in comparison hakeem was doing 53% in the playoffs and 51% in season. :sas2:


now onto d-rob. this one will be quick. how good is former dpoy tyson chandler compared to felton spencer and why was felton spencer holding d-rob to 41% shooting in the 94 offs :leostare: fast forward to 98, again taking the L to utah, how did elite big greg foster put d-rob in jail to the tune of 40% shooting :merchant: the 48% playoff FG compared to 51% season FG tells us what we need to know :whoo:

in summation, elite post players john salley, bill laimbeer, luc longley, bill cartwright, felton spencer, and greg foster are able to hold elite post players ewing and d-rob to mediocre/bad playoff series, but former dpoy tyson chandler cant do that for 1 game. got u breh, say no more :whew:

bron, kobe, kidd, cp3, dwight are some of the best defenders ever at their position with wade having multiple all-defense nods so im not sure where youre trying to go with that

on the 2012 squad they got bron kobe cp3 chandler, iggy has multiple all-defense nods too


i keep bringing up tatum because he's the reason you deflected to talking about the dream team after your dumb ass take that any coach k led usa team could beat prime spain. i let that slide but im happy to continue exposing your lack of basketball knowledge if you like. lemme know when you wanna throw the towel :damn:

I post about that 2012 team every year. They are my favorite Olympic team ever and as the years go by, they are going to have all hall of famers on that squad.

When Durant and Melo started cooking from deep. :heh: Team Blackout....
 

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I got 2012 over 1992.

I mean LeBron, Kobe, Durant, Melo all on the same team? That’s a cheat code the floor spacing is just :ohlawd:
 

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I got 2012 over 1992.

I mean LeBron, Kobe, Durant, Melo all on the same team? That’s a cheat code the floor spacing is just :ohlawd:
Breh.....Niqqas continue to sleep on the greatness of that team.

My all time favorite. When Durant and Melo were cooking.....:russ:
 
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