I just think we have a long history of terrible domestic policy. So I don't expect positive results if those same people to start meddling all over the world like we're doing shyt right at home.
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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For the record, the Israeli / Palestinian conflict isn't merely an argument over apartheid.
Not without leveraging the military industrial complex you use as proof positive we can find domestic programs.
American law enforcement from day one has specialized in oppressing blacks. They don't need Israel to be good at that.
The Christian facists, Muslim facists, and Jewish facists can fight over that dirt all they want. But I'm not voting for facists.
Right because they have issues at home that aren't being addressed.
When American voters start prioritizing foreign policy the end result is always war and increased funding to the MIC.
The status quo has been pushing for a two state solution. Something both sides can't agree on.
I'm old enough to remember Americans
campaigning on peace in the middle east. All that did was send my family to war.
Yet, American Law Enforcement is taking more and more trips out there.
And the government in Israel we give $8M a day is a fascist government breh...
The world as a whole agrees on a 2 state solution. But the government we give most support to has undermined it and said fukk you to us and kept annexing land while taking our aid packages.
When people say 'both sides' on this issue, one side has an advanced military and all the power... the other has what? rocks? some diplomatic support?
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Chicken-egg. Either way, America’s current aggressive foreign policy and corresponding military expenditures are not really economically or ideologically compatible with M4A, green new deal and all the big ideas Warren (supposedly) supports
We helped create Israel. We're obviously going to support them.
But hey, we could arm both sides and they could blow up the holy land and I wouldn't care.
Might get us to a 2 state solution.
If that's your position then why are you making an argument for American intervention in Israel?
Th3G3ntleman
Superstar
It's also extremely disingenuous to put a nail on Warren's Israel stance and tilt your cap upwards for Sanders. One is Jewish and one isn't....let's not pretend that both would receive the same backlash for not supporting the apartheid going on. It's a lowbrow point but we all know millions dollars worth of ads calling her an anti-semite that would come out if she took a strong stance there that wouldn't take place if Bernie did the same.
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Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
Not sure what you’re talking about.
the next guy
Superstar
Amazing that Russia does rank as an issue on here, despite the fact Israel has also interfered in elections? It's proof that people see politics as sports and nothing more.
HUGE angle that always gets covered up...and it was always rumored that Israel snuck in A LOT of stuff under its Russia ties.
You are 100% correct.
He did a poor job in imo. I know no one ever does this, but it is ok to admit a candidate you support is wrong. Warren answer on Biden son was a bad response. What he could of done was say that she has a good record in flushing out corporate corruption(because she does) and that what you should expect in a Warren presidency. But of course he didn’t and he tried to defend an indefensible position.
JoogJoint
In my own league.
I don’t get the black obsession with Palestine in the whole Israel-Palestine conflict. Arabs, especially in the levant, have no love lost for black people. I mean the Jews shouldn’t have jacked the land, but fukk both sides...this ain’t some coli militant shyt either, arabs have mistreated blacks for centuries, I have no dog in that fight and am not making FP stances on that conflict some big part of how I judge a candidate
If only you knew actual Palestinians because I do and he shed some light what I already knew. Israel is an evil country who oppresses all groups of people including Africans as well. So why wouldn't there be a "Black Obsession" when they also oppress the Black Israelis there as well? Ethiopians, Afro-Palestinians, Black Jews, etc DO EXIST ya know.
Palestinians have supported Black Americans in our Black Lives Matter efforts as well.
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
If your candidate can't handle Gabbard, then your candidate won't be able to handle Trump. So stop acting like a scared bytch and man up. Let people support their candidate without conspiring to collude on forcing her out.
Such weak cowards.
Too late. 
Neera Tanden greenlighted Tulsi's primary opponent...
She's food now.
ITS ABOVE ME
Neera Tanden greenlighted Tulsi's primary opponent...
She's food now.
ITS ABOVE ME
dora_da_destroyer
Master Baker
You’re not schooling me on anything here. I never said Israel doesnt oppress blacks. And I do know Palestinians, inividuals don’t reflect institutions. And I’ve traveled to Israel twice...miss me with all this.
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
I support a 2-state solution, but it's not on the top of my priorities list. But how a candidate has voted or talks about it does allow me to assess their character. Also, it gives some insights on how that candidate will treat black people here in the US.