2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[dora_da_destroyer]

Palestinian leadership is trash, I mean Abbas is on year 15 of a 4 year term.

But you do know all of the Palestinian leaders worth a damn, their so called Mandelas are either in jail or killed, right? Speaking of Mandela...

And you may need to care more in one respect. The Christian fascist right, mega donors like the Adelsons, have an interest in keeping black people in America away from the polls by supporting GOP candidates and outright fellow fascists. They want to fund campaigns to put poor black boys in the military to fight a war against Iran.

I'm not even being dramatic. It is a fact.



No one is saying it should be your top priority. But it is a simple concept. Do you support people living under military occupation forever? Most people would say no.

Do you think its appropriate that a billionaire like Adelson can buy an election and then immediately use that influence to push for instability in the region on behalf of a fascist government?

Bro, you keep bringing up things that don’t matter to me as a black person in judging that conflict.

As for Adelson buying an election, that issue is separate from looking at/expecting certain stances on Israeli occupation of the region. Election interference is a whole separate issue that can take place from anywhere.

 

[StatUS]

Bernie supporters, Palestine first.

How do you figure that? I'm an advocate for human rights in general and can multi-task. If you support your government propping up apartheid, then don't be surprised of the shyt they will continue to pull off domestically.

 

[Pressure]

No one is saying it should be your top priority. But it is a simple concept. Do you support people living under military occupation forever? Most people would say no.

Do you think its appropriate that a billionaire like Adelson can buy an election and then immediately use that influence to push for instability in the region on behalf of a fascist government?

You're missing my point. It's not a deciding factor at all for me at the ballot box.

There's a moral argument to be made, but that argument will be addressed in other parts of their policies that will affect me and my concerns.

 

[Pressure]

How do you figure that? I'm an advocate for human rights in general and can multi-task. If you support your government propping up apartheid, then don't be surprised of the shyt they will continue to pull off domestically.

I said it's not a priority. More important things than Americans trying to solve an unsolvable conflict.

 

[Pressure]

Dudes really beat those anti-military/anti-intervention drums until they aren't.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Someone's gotta unleash the opposition on Gabbard and get her out the paint before the debate.

She's a problem.

 

[FAH1223]

Bro, you keep bringing up things that don’t matter to me as a black person in judging that conflict.

As for Adelson buying an election, that issue is separate from looking at/expecting certain stances on Israeli occupation of the region. Election interference is a whole separate issue that can take place from anywhere.

You're missing my point. It's not a deciding factor at all for me at the ballot box.

There's a moral argument to be made, but that argument will be addressed in other parts of their policies that will affect me and my concerns.

Most people aren't voting on foreign policy. I get it.

The President's biggest hand and biggest impact though is on foreign policy. He/She can change a lot.

I'm arguing the forces that seek to maintain a status quo position on that conflict or seek to accelerate things like annexation and displacement are the same forces who seek to bring similar elements of that in the US.

We have police forces who train in Israel and come back and use similar tactics on black people in the USA.

I mentioned the donors, the Christian fascists...

This is all linked is what 'm saying.

 

[StatUS]

I said it's not a priority. More important things than Americans trying to solve an unsolvable conflict.

So which is it, do you not care or is it not a top priority? Because nobody is advocating that a candidate bring peace to the Middle East as their first action in office.

But alot of this shyt from the military industrial complex to the far right money interest have stakes in Israel and if the next president isn't telling them to fukk off and instead keep them in power that could lead to another candidate like Trump to seize that mistake.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

You're missing my point. It's not a deciding factor at all for me at the ballot box.

There's a moral argument to be made, but that argument will be addressed in other parts of their policies that will affect me and my concerns.

If you think simplistically, as if foreign policy doesn’t dictate domestic policy in some respects.

America’s support of Israel along with its support of Saudi Arabia are the prime movers of anti-American sentiment and fuel for never-ending war, occupations, interventions and drone strikes which gobble up a ridiculous portion of the national budget.

You’d have a lot more money for all of Elizabeth Warren’s fancy plans that will get shot down in the Senate if we weren’t spending 600 billion a year on the military, plus it helps neuter the “We can’t pay for it” counter argument.

 

[storyteller]

This is ridiculous. 12 people in one debate stage? This is gonna be a mess.

 

[Pressure]

For the record, the Israeli / Palestinian conflict isn't merely an argument over apartheid.

The President's biggest hand and biggest impact though is on foreign policy. He/She can change a lot.

Not without leveraging the military industrial complex you use as proof positive we can find domestic programs.

We have police forces who train in Israel and come back and use similar tactics on black people in the USA.

American law enforcement from day one has specialized in oppressing blacks. They don't need Israel to be good at that.

I mentioned the donors, the Christian fascists...

The Christian facists, Muslim facists, and Jewish facists can fight over that dirt all they want. But I'm not voting for facists.

Most people aren't voting on foreign policy. I get it.

Right because they have issues at home that aren't being addressed.

When American voters start prioritizing foreign policy the end result is always war and increased funding to the MIC.

I'm arguing the forces that seek to maintain a status quo position on that conflict or seek to accelerate things like annexation and displacement are the same forces who seek to bring similar elements of that in the US.

The status quo has been pushing for a two state solution. Something both sides can't agree on.

I'm old enough to remember Americans
campaigning on peace in the middle east. All that did was send my family to war.

 

[Pressure]

This is ridiculous. 12 people in one debate stage? This is gonna be a mess.

The debates are going to be trash until they narrow the field.

DNC gotta make a decision soon.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

Most people aren't voting on foreign policy. I get it.

The President's biggest hand and biggest impact though is on foreign policy. He/She can change a lot.

I'm arguing the forces that seek to maintain a status quo position on that conflict or seek to accelerate things like annexation and displacement are the same forces who seek to bring similar elements of that in the US.

We have police forces who train in Israel and come back and use similar tactics on black people in the USA.

I mentioned the donors, the Christian fascists...

This is all linked is what 'm saying.

We have different views on FP in general. I’m a non interventionist except for in the most extreme human rights violations, and even then, I believe our power and military should be used to provide aid, safety, and/or passage to places willing to provide asylum, not to fight others wars, interfere with politics or soapbox. I don’t think we should be policing others when we can’t police at home...a lot of these issues don’t move me, the world will inherently always have conflict, I care about what you’re doing to resolve the conflict in the place I live, not how you’ll try to meddle in places you have no authority.

 

[Pressure]

If you think simplistically, as if foreign policy doesn’t dictate domestic policy in some respects.

America’s support of Israel along with its support of Saudi Arabia are the prime movers of anti-American sentiment and fuel for never-ending war, occupations, interventions and drone strikes which gobble up a ridiculous portion of the national budget.

You’d have a lot more money for all of Elizabeth Warren’s fancy plans that will get shot down in the Senate if we weren’t spending 600 billion a year on the military, plus it helps neuter the “We can’t pay for it” counter argument.

American foreign policy is more of a result of American domestic policy than the other way around.