2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

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dora_da_destroyer said:
gabbard got her alt right supporters on deck...wonder if she'll still be torpedo'ing harris or if there is another candidate she's been instructed to go after...that biden cabinet/vp pick won't come cheap :whew:
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She is taking orders from someone? If someone intimated the same about your favored candidate you would be upset. :francis:
And she is also trying to get into Bernie's cabinet so guess who that leaves as a target. :mjgrin:
 
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I would only change my vote from Bernie to someone else, IF they got on stage and said they hope dead7s mother dies of aids and she fukks him against his will to give it to him @DEAD7
 
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Th3G3ntleman said:
How exactly is all that shyt suppose to get done in a 4 year timeframe without control of the senate? :mjtf:

This it's going to require a movement shyt is some make a wish upon a star level of bullshyt.:unimpressed:


If you start being pragmatic you can see ain't no way in hell that shyt gonna pass.:unimpressed:

Nothing is passing after 2020 unless its an EO. :unimpressed:


I fukk with the idea of single payer and the elimination of private insurance but it's a fukking ideal man. It's a killer but one that I respect these folks for running on unlike that whole immigration shyt. That shyt is a killer that these folks need to drop asap.
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StatUS said:
Then vote for Biden if you just don't see a path forward, nothing against that. The Senate gets voted on every two years. If people are more engaged in the process (voting Warren or Bernie assumes this) then it can affect down ballot races for these proposals to move forward in an easier fashion. Plus having the leader of the country support something like M4A from the pulpit without being bought out to be against it is a huge advantage. Look at what Trump can do even though he's an idiot by just speaking on things? At the end of the day though it does require a large uprising of the population to demand that health care changes. But it's not pie in the sky we just let the narrative be put out there like that.
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America most probably will go way of the Australian system rather than the Canadian one.

Maybe even the Japanese or Taiwanese systems.

But the industry is already canning Biden’s plan.

I’ll give Pete credit on one thing. He’s targeting hospitals in his plan. You will never hear Bernie talk about the hospitals
 
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FAH1223 said:
America most probably will go way of the Australian system rather than the Canadian one.

Maybe even the Japanese or Taiwanese systems.

But the industry is already canning Biden’s plan.

I’ll give Pete credit on one thing. He’s targeting hospitals in his plan. You will never hear Bernie talk about the hospitals
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Issue with that takes away doctor choice right?
 
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StatUS said:
Nah, the Aussie system I thought has public and private hospitals depending on your insurance? Won't that prevent doctor choice? I'm asking because that's a big issue for people.
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Yeah

Having private health insurance means that you can choose the doctor or specialist who treats you in hospital and you can go to a private hospital or be treated as a private patient in a public hospital.

But everyone is covered by Aussie Medicare on a baseline basis
 
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Smoking With Cigarettes said:
I live in a MAGAt county in the south and I canvassed so what I'm about to say isn't an off the top of my head opinion. Simple people do not give a fukk about that, they care about what you're going to do for them. I had a Trump voter tell me "Trump can grab whoever he wants by the p*ssy if the economy is fine." Another said that they're willing to pay more in taxes if it means actually getting their roads fixed. Multiple voters said they voted Gillum/Scott (like idiots). Its easy to see conservatives as mouthbreathing morons, but its not quite that simple. Their loyalty is to their own self interest as opposed to liberals who focus more on "moral justice."

There's a lot of talk in this thread about who will get washed in the midwest and the south, but unless yall are out in these areas talking to people or have solid data to support your points, its conjecture. All a candidate like Warren has to do is explain her plans in the simplest of terms and tell how it'll benefit the average person. The south and midwest are not a monolith
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I keep saying it...Obama put it perfectly. You go to those rural areas and talk to people because just showing up and listening is the difference between losing that district by 20 and losing it by 40. You lose enough districts by 40 and you start losing the entire fukking state...which is what happened to Hillary, who simply ignored multiple parts of multiple states. If you're gonna run for president you should actually RUN for president. Not travel from LA to NY to a couple battleground urban cities before calling it a week. If JFK could go door to door and up/down stairs campaigning with a fukked up back injury...you got no fukking excuse not to go talk to people.
 
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