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Warren can't beat Trump. Ya'll just don't want to hear it and believe all this twitter hype and polling. Then it becomes a reality in November 2020 and ya'll will be posting in these threads heartbroken, sad and pissed when people been trying to tell ya'll two years straight. America isn't this super liberal country that Warren believes it is. The voting would show that.

Biden already got Trump shook. Trump even know who his real threat is which is why he trying to get Biden out and the primary no where close to being over.

My sole goal in the 2020 election is to get Trump out.
Bruh, no disrespect but you’ve been posting the same empty posts for months on end, you’re entitled to your opinion, but nothing about what you post is insightful or close to sounding well informed.

And the demigod status y’all have made trump into, this is sad.
 

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Given his history...the policies and positions he has supported, nothing about him makes him a good candidate to represent the black electorate, nor the general dem electorate. Bu bu but “uncle joe” “Obama” “electability”....


You see the split support for Bernie and Warren, and that’s ok, that means progressives (or their supporters) are choosing a candidate based on multiple criteria. You should see more fragmentation in the centrist camp, but you don’t becuase people are propping Biden based on name/Obama association. I don’t know any Biden supporters IRL who support home for anything other than the two reasons I listed, and even here, I have yet to see Biden boyz speak on anything of substance....I have yet to see anything other than “electability” be a reason why they support or agree with him

I met a rich white woman whose daddy earned the wealth. She supported Biden because she wasn’t racist (or to be more clear not proud of being blatantly racist) but didn’t want anything to fukk up her inherited wealth. Biden’s appeal is he makes them feel safe in they can go to how things were before Trump. Bernie and Warren on the other hand are saying they want to challenge the system of wealth in this country and this is why moderates are not fans. Most moderates want to keep there money but not to feel embarrassed/guilt by the acts of the President.
 

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I met a rich white woman whose daddy earned the wealth. She supported Biden because she wasn’t racist (or to be more clear not proud of being blatantly racist) but didn’t want anything to fukk up her inherited wealth. Biden’s appeal is he makes them feel safe in they can go to how things were before Trump. Bernie and Warren on the other hand are saying they want to challenge the system of wealth in this country and this is why moderates are not fans. Most moderates want to keep there money but not to feel embarrassed/guilt by the acts of the President.
That’s the moderate wing in general, still doesn’t speak to why Biden is the candidate from that faction to carry the mantle.
 

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Given his history...the policies and positions he has supported, nothing about him makes him a good candidate to represent the black electorate, nor the general dem electorate. Bu bu but “uncle joe” “Obama” “electability”....


You see the split support for Bernie and Warren, and that’s ok, that means progressives (or their supporters) are choosing a candidate based on multiple criteria. You should see more fragmentation in the centrist camp, but you don’t becuase people are propping Biden based on name/Obama association. I don’t know any Biden supporters IRL who support home for anything other than the two reasons I listed, and even here, I have yet to see Biden boyz speak on anything of substance....I have yet to see anything other than “electability” be a reason why they support or agree with him

Well I take electability as my top priority.

It’s fine and dandy having all of these progressive ideas but if you don’t have someone that has a shot of actually pushing through your ideas it means absolutely nothing.

I’d rather have a candidate get through 75% of what I want, then have a candidate I ride with 100% but with no shot of getting in. :yeshrug:
Therefore 0% of what I want gets through.


75% over 0% is fine with me. :ehh:

I’m not embarrassed one iota that I think Biden will pull in working class “subtly” racist white ppl. If I need to them to vote to get through the stuff “I WANT” Then so be it. Gays do it to black ppl every election. Rich white ppl do it to poor country white ppl every election.

Its not pandering to racists it’s being strategic on making sure you’re (black ppl) in a position to get through your own agenda. Biden gives us that.


But outside of that. South Carolina is the cherry on top. That’s the first state black ppl have a legitimate say on the democratic election.

Biden is boots on the ground now! He’s everywhere.

Warren and sanders apparently care about the black agenda but are not putting anywhere near the same resources into areas where we actually have a say :yeshrug:. Actions speak louder than words to me.


Warren can talk about hbcus, black agenda, all that in interviews to get some “twitter buzz”.

But where’s her money and time going? It damn sure ain’t to that currently. That speaks volumes to me. :francis:
 

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That’s the moderate wing in general, still doesn’t speak to why Biden is the candidate from that faction to carry the mantle.

She said he was the only moderate with a chance to win. Another friend of mine said that him being a moderate in a race with so many progressives helped him stand out and gave him a chance to win.

Basically it is what it is.
 

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Well I take electability as my top priority.

It’s fine and dandy having all of these progressive ideas but if you don’t have someone that has a shot of actually pushing through your ideas it means absolutely nothing.

I’d rather have a candidate get through 75% of what I want, then have a candidate I ride with 100% but with no shot of getting in. :yeshrug:
Therefore 0% of what I want gets through.


75% over 0% is fine with me. :ehh:

I’m not embarrassed one iota that I think Biden will pull in working class “subtly” racist white ppl. If I need to them to vote to get through the stuff “I WANT” Then so be it. Gays do it to black ppl every election. Rich white ppl do it to poor country white ppl every election.

Its not pandering to racists it’s being strategic on making sure you’re (black ppl) in a position to get through your own agenda. Biden gives us that.


But outside of that. South Carolina is the cherry on top. That’s the first state black ppl have a legitimate say on the democratic election.

Biden is boots on the ground now! He’s everywhere.

Warren and sanders apparently care about the black agenda but are not putting anywhere near the same resources into areas where we actually have a say :yeshrug:. Actions speak louder than words to me.


Warren can talk about hbcus, black agenda, all that in interviews to get some “twitter buzz”.

But where’s her money and time going? It damn sure ain’t to that currently. That speaks volumes to me. :francis:
so much wrong with this, but I don’t have the energy for this today, heading to the gym and about to get my day started...I can’t

She said he was the only moderate with a chance to win. Another friend of mine said that him being a moderate in a race with so many progressives helped him stand out and gave him a chance to win.

Basically it is what it is.
this shows how poorly informed they are...there are more moderates in the race than progressives...dudes ain’t even looking at all their choices :heh:
 

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this shows how poorly informed they are...there are more moderates in the race than progressives...dudes ain’t even looking at all their choices :heh:

Here's my thing. I know most moderates are uninformed. I still think as we get closer to the end of the primary cycle and more people start paying attention there will be less moderates as people become informed.
 

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Y’all post polls that show her in better than she is in other polls.

Is this true or not?

Warren and sanders both stay. Biden wins. :mjgrin:


Poll that.
You can be mad at the results of a poll all day long, but a poll that is widely observed as being the gold standard versus random online polls isn't even a comparison.
 

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It’s amazing how hard some “Black” posters are riding for Joe. Hopefully y’all are part of the sheepish 50+ black electorate, because I can’t see how anyone under 50 has that level of blind affinity towards Joe :francis:

Says the nikka who stans a wealthy white liberal woman from Massachusetts who was once a Republican who voted for Reagan

:russ:
 

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Well I take electability as my top priority.
With all due respect, that's why your opinion is of fairly low quality.

Trump had low electability as well Obama. There is no specific science to electability, is all subjective and is skewed by many outside factors. Not to mention how volatile it is, we all witnessed Kamala Harris' electability peak and then dip considerably in a matter of weeks.
 

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With all due respect, that's why your opinion is of fairly low quality.

Trump had low electability as well Obama. There is no specific science to electability, is all subjective and is skewed by many outside factors. Not to mention how volatile it is, we all witnessed Kamala Harris' electability peak and then dip considerably in a matter of weeks.

Trumps electability was assured once he got the republican nomination.

Democracy’s fall in love, Republicans get in line.
 

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That last quoted tweet is the mind boggling thing about Bernie's campaign, you had ~45% of the vote when it was just you and Clinton, what have you done to specifically pull some of those voters in?

Realistically he won't be able to pull enough from that 55% or from disgruntled Trump voters, moderates and independents to account for the loss of voters in his 45% that will go to other candidates.
 
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