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That's why I don't go back and forth with Warren supporters. They are getting kinda annoying at this point. I live in SC, a key battleground state, and Biden got this on lock. I don't like the fact that Biden is going to be the nominee and I support other candidates and I don't hate Warren, but I'm not going to be delusional about how this country works.

Warren won't get a huge chunk of Trump supporters.
Why should the Democratic Party chase the presidents supporters? Let’s say a candidate can lore some of those deplorables, at what cost?
 

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I used to feel this way, but more and more I'm starting to feel Biden is Hillary 2. Both were leading in all the polls and look what happened. Biden doesn't excite people and is running solely on recognition. Obama voters (young voters, minorities, progressives) will just sit out again like they did with Hillary because he isn't really offering anything that will make them want to vote for him.
Bruh, no disrespect but you’ve been posting the same empty posts for months on end, you’re entitled to your opinion, but nothing about what you post is insightful or close to sounding well informed.

And the demigod status y’all have made trump into, this is sad.
Because I'm right. But that's ok. Democratic voters like to be romanced/whined and dined or else it's a no go and that's how Republicans beat them because Republican voters fall in line and vote and not worry about the extra emotional whine and dine shyt.

But hey, ya'll keep underestimating Trump. Nobody learned their lesson from 2016. Nobody learned from his entire Presidency so far.
 

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Warren won't get a huge chunk of Trump supporters.
Nor will any democrat. What upside down do y’all live in where you think those who deflected to vote white are coming back? :mindblown: The dem party, no matter the candidate, is the party that will try to make things ok for blacks, browns and gays. The dog whistle trump blew where working class whites deflected is one where they decided they’re tired of others getting some, even if it means they get none. We saw this in the 60’s/70’s with the sourthen strategy, the parties were never the same again, we are currently in 2.0 of that, the party demographics are making another fundamental shift. Those poor whites are not coming back.

What the Dems do need to do is ensure there is broad turnout across their own fukking coalition and appeal to independents, not try to take trumpers
 

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This post was quoted for posterity’s sake.

Watch how quickly the black support Biden dissipates when the loses start adding up.

This is what the beginning of the end looks like.

What’re u talking about? This ain’t 08 buddy. That’s over a decade ago. Bidens already showed up the endorsements Hilary failed to get before the sc primary.


Y’all really think ppl are dumb huh? Like ppl can’t learn others mistakes :mjlol:
 

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Because I'm right. But that's ok. Democratic voters like to be romanced/whined and dined or else it's a no go and that's how Republicans beat them because Republican voters fall in line and vote and not worry about the extra emotional whine and dine shyt.

But hey, ya'll keep underestimating Trump. Nobody learned their lesson from 2016. Nobody learned from his entire Presidency so far.
Republicans do more than just fall in line. They trip, they play with the finish line, they tinker with the clock, etc.

shyt, sometimes they play with race days.
 

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What’re u talking about? This ain’t 08 buddy. That’s over a decade ago. Bidens already showed up the endorsements Hilary failed to get before the sc primary.


Y’all really think ppl are dumb huh? Like ppl can’t learn others mistakes :mjlol:

Is it too early to look at the primary schedule?
 

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Nor will any democrat. What upside down do y’all live in where you think those who deflected to vote white are coming back? :mindblown: The dem party, no matter the candidate, is the party that will try to make things ok for blacks, browns and gays. The dog whistle trump blew where working class whites deflected is one where they decided they’re tired of others getting some, even if it means they get none. We saw this in the 60’s/70’s with the sourthen strategy, the parties were never the same again, we are currently in 2.0 of that, the party demographics are making another fundamental shift. Those poor whites are not coming back.

What the Dems do need to do is ensure there is broad turnout across their own fukking coalition and appeal to independents, not try to take trumpers

Every democrat who won the presidency after 1980 brought over republicans.

Every single one.
 

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Is it too early to look at the primary schedule?

You were insinuating that if warren won the first couple of states blacks would flock to her like they did Obama in 08.

I was just letting u know if that does happen, Bidens already prepared and accounted for that, by getting the endorsements and having a ground game Hilary didn’t have in 08.

It’s a different game today. They’re ready for that
 

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How many democrats have left the party because of apathy?

A shyt ton. But we’re not trying to get all democrats back. We need numbers in certain areas not all throughout the country. It’s an electoral college strategy not a popular strategy :yeshrug:


That may be cut throat but that’s our reality. We trying to win, not get more blue votes in overwhelming blue states :manny:
 

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That's why I don't go back and forth with Warren supporters. They are getting kinda annoying at this point. I live in SC, a key battleground state, and Biden got this on lock. I don't like the fact that Biden is going to be the nominee and I support other candidates and I don't hate Warren, but I'm not going to be delusional about how this country works.

Warren won't get a huge chunk of Trump supporters.
:mindblown:

Warren (or any Democrat) doesn't need to flip any Trump supporters! She can win without courting a single one. You're the one being delusional about how the country works.
 

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:mindblown:

Warren (or any Democrat) doesn't need to flip any Trump supporters! She can win without courting a single one. You're the one being delusional about how the country works.

How can she win the electoral college without flipping republicans?

Every republican since the 80’s has flipped Democrats to win the presidency


Every democrat since the 80’s has flipped republicans to win the presidency


Why is warren so great and different to not have to do this? Please explain this to the non warren fans
 

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How can she win the electoral college without flipping republicans?

Every republican since the 80’s has flipped Democrats to win the presidency


Every democrat since the 80’s has flipped republicans to win the presidency


Why is warren so great and different to not have to do this? Please explain this to the non warren fans

Trump won the electoral college cause of 77,000 votes in 3 states that voted blue in presidential elections for 3 decades and voted blue statewide in 2018.

If she or any other Dem turns out more voters, expands the electorate, you don’t need to flip over Republicans.

The Obama-Obama-Trump voters are also very flippable.
 

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How can she win the electoral college without flipping republicans?

Every republican since the 80’s has flipped Democrats to win the presidency


Every democrat since the 80’s has flipped republicans to win the presidency


Why is warren so great and different to not have to do this? Please explain this to the non warren fans

:mjlol: It's called turnout, dude. 2016 had 58% of eligible voters actually cast a vote. If Warren can get 77,000 people who didn't show up to vote in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania because they weren't feeling Hillary, she wins the election if everything else holds. There is no need to flip MAGA dipshyts, just speak to people who didn't vote last time. You're acting like there's 100% turnout so any gains made must be a loss to the other party. :martin:
 
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