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The Hillary didn't win because she wasn't far enough left angle is probably the least believable theory for her failing in 2016.

Shes was further left than Obama. Biden is further right than Obama.

Biden is the current front runner. Trump is the president. :francis:
 

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I know you aint talking about me, the dude who was yelling at people after Bernie lost not to be dumb while my fellow moderator was sayingn let Trump win so that the revolution would be upon us.
wait, who were you? :ohhh:
 

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The Hillary didn't win because she wasn't far enough left angle is probably the least believable theory for her failing in 2016.

Shes was further left than Obama. Biden is further right than Obama.

Biden is the current front runner. Trump is the president. :francis:
HRC had the most left wing platform in history
 

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No one questioned Hillary's qualifications, they just wanted America to move more left. Sanders gave them a voice and that voice was equal to 70% of millennials in the last primary. That group of people showed up at at 66% rate for Obama in 2008 and 60% rate in 2012. When they stayed home, you had winnable races like Feingold and the presidency go the other way. Basically, Clinton had to answer for dissent that had festered for a decade and she and the party were unaware of. (I also said this was unfair but it was what it was.)

You're assuming more affluent voter or tuned-in means more informed on left-leaning issues. It just means they're watching the news. The most left-leaning people are the least likely to vote and think politics are bullshyt. That's part of why you had such dissaray at the 2016 convention, Bernie essentially brought in the streets and they didn't understand how the DNC works.

Copy, you're referring to a different type of tuned in than I am. Also you're partially having a different discussion than me. I don't care about whether it's left leaning, moderate out even right leaning. The black vote needs to be more assertive and less based on who the presumed favorite is.
 

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The Hillary didn't win because she wasn't far enough left angle is probably the least believable theory for her failing in 2016.

Shes was further left than Obama. Biden is further right than Obama.

Biden is the current front runner. Trump is the president. :francis:

HRC had the most left wing platform in history
:what:
 

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